i find all of this amusing .. i might be new to this website .. but im not new to the race world .. first of all .. why all the 8 bangers getting mad for? yea the v8 might have more tq/hp but why is it that they think that they are some bad *** mother ****ers and get beat by a 4 banger they wanna get mad .. i know this is off the subject .. but if u are a real car enthusiast then it dont really matter .. i seen hondas beat mustangs, mustangs beat hondas, mustangs beat by gst and mustangs beating them .. my point is, it dont matter what u drive, its how much u do to ur car .. and the funny thing is .. how come that the v8 gets beat by 4 bangers .. and not talking about drag cars .. but i did my research u can put just as much money in to a four banger and do what a v8 can .. sorry .. i dont know who told yall wrong .. and if 4 bangers are so bad, then why they beat 5.0??? and and people talk about how 4 bangers have to cheat to keep up with a v8, think about it, u have 4 more cylinders .. but if alot of street 5.0s think they can always out beat 4 bangers, come to augusta ga .. seriously .. i mean .. dont boubt the smaller engine .. ud be suprised what they can do .. and why u pick on the 4 bangers, how come a v8 can with-stand the torture a 4 banger can?? 5.0 always tear up trannys, sling a rod, burn a piston up, or just dont work worth a damn .. but yet u can try to kill a 4 banger and it takes forever .. i had a ranger i bought with a 4 banger, it had a broke piston skirt .. i dogged it everyday, went mudding, did burnouts, blew a head gasket .. and still drove it and dogged it and played in it .. never broke .. removed the engine because it was embarassing 8 months later listening to the knock .. but i have an 87 with tc engine .. and i dog it every day .. still keep up with 5.0 and its stock .. just a custom c.a.i and cut off exhaust .. and honestly .. 4 banger just sounds more pleasing because it dont sound like its choking and makes a sound that goes with the power .. thats all i have to say .. just remember .. be suprised by what a 4 banger can do v8 people
My gray Turbo Coupe (RIP) had a total of about 5K in it. Thats the purchase of the car, wheels, tires, brakes, engine, etc. In one night, I raced a 94 Firebird Formula that ran 13.0s at the track, and got him by a fender. We then had a 3 way race with a 2002 Saleen S281, and I nosed the BOTH of them out.
The power mods I had, Precision SC50 turbo, log header, 3" exhaust, boost controller, cold air intake, and a few tweaks.
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My first car was an '88 Turbo Coupe. As much fun as that car was I still enjoy my V-8 more. But that's just my opinion. To each his own. Personally I respect anyone who takes the time, money, and energy to improve their rides and make them faster. And I like to think that i'm not a moron, I know that there are 4 bangers out there that could put a whoopin' on me.
My first car was an '88 Turbo Coupe. As much fun as that car was I still enjoy my V-8 more. But that's just my opinion. To each his own. Personally I respect anyone who takes the time, money, and energy to improve their rides and make them faster. And I like to think that i'm not a moron, I know that there are 4 bangers out there that could put a whoopin' on me.
They seem to knock the turbo 4 Cylinder engine because most of them don't know anything about them' I'd put my SVO up against most any v8 with about the same money spent as i have.
I should be deep in the 11's by the end of the summer with my crappy weak or only good for economy 4banger. Let's play V8 guys I want to hear your opinions.
And it's not that I like v8's either I have a blown 5.4 87 Vert tranny swap 9" the works.
Apples to apples as I've heard I'd always take an SVO the V8 cars are a dime a dozen Rarity comes into play very much.
My Turbo Coupe did not hold a place in my heart like the SVO does.
Everybody loves to bench race. I should be deep into the 9s once i win the lottery.
Everyone loves what they have. Had you bought a V-6 and built it up you'd be in the V-6 section saying the same sh*t but about 6'ers. I practically live in the V-8 section and i can honestly say man i have never once in the past few years heard someone even mention anything about any 4 banger stangs. So idk what ur talking about.
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Im sorry but to all the guys with turbo 4's, yall talk about how much less it is to get in to low et's but seriously! I would much rather spend the extra cash and look GREAT in a newer v8 that looks and rides much better than the 4cyls... I mean IMO they look like dog poo compared to 03-04 termies or any post 1994 stang! So please when you talk about spending cash and all that on your rides please take into accout looks and ride quality also and not just performance!
i agree with ben... i also live in the v8 section and nobody ever doggs 4 banger stangs... but yet you guys are here dogging v8s... interesting. we all drive mustangs, it sounds like some people need to grow up and realize we all love the same thing.
*edit* to be honest almost everyone in the v8 section knows that any 4 banger could be built to rape our v8s. we're not that naive... maybe you guys over here are naive enough to think every v8 driver talks sh*t about 4 bangers. i dont know. but we love our cars. most of us love your cars too. but we dont hate on you guys... most of us are better than that. i can tell you one thing... ive never seen a v8 stang owner ever post a thread talking crap about other stang owners. this thread is ridiculous
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You V8 guys are the most self centered bunch of dumb ass's aren't you? we are not talking about just 5.0's we talk about chevy's, dodges, etc.
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Im sorry but to all the guys with turbo 4's, yall talk about how much less it is to get in to low et's but seriously! I would much rather spend the extra cash and look GREAT in a newer v8 that looks and rides much better than the 4cyls... I mean IMO they look like dog poo compared to 03-04 termies or any post 1994 stang! So please when you talk about spending cash and all that on your rides please take into accout looks and ride quality also and not just performance!
Ummm.... last I cked the 4 cylinders weigh less, and the SVO is still the best handeling mustang out there (stock for stock) Also check out the converted 94 on TF
Alright you find me an N/A 4 banger stang that will out handle and out perform my stang and ill shut up. But remember i said N/A. No nitrous. No turbo. No supercharger.
Its like arguing with midgets. Of coarse a midget could probably work out hard core and take roids and get huge and kick my arse but come on. . .
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Its funny considering they dont make the 2.3l anymore...that basically sums it up. Why compare two of the packages that were offered with a specific car? They appeal to different people and obviously those peoples opinions will differ. Money isnt a variable when it comes to potential because almost all cars of all makes can be made fast, who cares if it costs a total of 10,000 or 100,000. We all know what money buys...quality.
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The whole reason they made the 2.3 was because Ford was under a pinch for the gas crunch. It was never meant to be a performance car. The reason they made the SVO was to appease the people that b*tched.
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Like said before. I've got parts from a v-8 nut. Mostly free or extremely cheap. Free coupe black interior, 8.8 limited 327 for 115 dollars, wheels with good tires on my car for a junk shell of body, 140 speedometer 25 dollars, and list goes on. Never had absolutely no problem with v-8 people at car shows. And mine definitely not one to be a a show. Just differant because of turbo. Had a lot of enjoyable good discustion and gave me idea's on mine. Like said all enjoy their cars and the pleasure of them.
i just read this whole thread. I can not beleive this is a debate. Its all what you like. If your in to 4's over 8's, thats up to you, i don't get it, but im one of those so called "dumbass 8 cylinder guys" What are you like 12??
You V8 guys are the most self centered bunch of dumb ass's aren't you? we are not talking about just 5.0's we talk about chevy's, dodges, etc.
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Im sorry but to all the guys with turbo 4's, yall talk about how much less it is to get in to low et's but seriously! I would much rather spend the extra cash and look GREAT in a newer v8 that looks and rides much better than the 4cyls... I mean IMO they look like dog poo compared to 03-04 termies or any post 1994 stang! So please when you talk about spending cash and all that on your rides please take into accout looks and ride quality also and not just performance!
Ummm.... last I cked the 4 cylinders weigh less, and the SVO is still the best handeling mustang out there (stock for stock) Also check out the converted 94 on TF
I get roughly 18 city and 27 highway, good enough for me! I didnt get in to the go fast game just to B!TCH about mpg. And im pretty sure my mach when it was bone stock would've taken a turn just as good if not way better than any 4 cyl! How about this! Post up a pic. of your ride and ill post up one of mine when it was stock!
i just read this whole thread. I can not beleive this is a debate. Its all what you like. If your in to 4's over 8's, thats up to you, i don't get it, but im one of those so called "dumbass 8 cylinder guys" What are you like 12??
HaHa.. The only reason i posted is because i find this thread really amusing! Its not like im going to take any of this seriously or to heart!
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The whole reason they made the 2.3 was because Ford was under a pinch for the gas crunch. It was never meant to be a performance car. The reason they made the SVO was to appease the people that b*tched.
They stopped making them because the V8 people bitched It out handeled and had almost the same power as the V8 that year (and it smoked it in races)
I have no issues with V8 people, but I hate the dumbass's that don't know their ****
The whole reason they made the 2.3 was because Ford was under a pinch for the gas crunch. It was never meant to be a performance car. The reason they made the SVO was to appease the people that b*tched.
They stopped making them because the V8 people bitched It out handeled and had almost the same power as the V8 that year (and it smoked it in races)
I have no issues with V8 people, but I hate the dumbass's that don't know their ****
They stopped making it because in the 80's, there wasnt anything that could sell a turbo 4 cylinder. Everyone was still hyped up from the early 70's muscle car days, and most people that could afford a brand new car in the 80's had something from the high-powered V8 category. Tack that on with people having no clue about fuel injection, and still believing that turbos are unreliable, youre doomed from the start. Same issues with the Merkur XR4Ti.
I love the comment about Turbo Coupes sucking. It made me laugh. An SVO is only about 300 pounds lighter. 300 pounds comes down to a drivers race. You can loose the weight advantage by coming off the clutch too hard, or shifting a little slow. 300 pounds isnt dick if you cant drive. My car, FULLY LOADED, every option available weighed in at just about 3650. A fully optioned SVO is about 3350. Funny thing is, the big ole "heavy" Turbo Coupe is just as nimble as an SVO, has the leg room, and creature comforts, the same power, better drivability, and was cheaper than an SVO. Guess since Turbo Coupes sucked so much, they made them from 83-88, rather than the 84-86 SVO.
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