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Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 2:28:41 PM   
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So my subs used to sound good till bestbuy messed with the amp...theres three categories

1) Base boost that goes 0-18
2) lpf frequency that goes 50-200
3) input sensitivity (v) that goes min 5 to max 0.2

i have a 1000 watt amp with a 1000 watt sub i think
how would i set each of these dials, please help..thanks

the amp i have

http://images.kenwood.eu/files/products/product_id_749/category_8/original/KAC-8103D.jpg


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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 3:09:50 PM   
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What subwoofer do you have and what kind of enclosure is it in?

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 5:13:11 PM   
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got this exact sub and box...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Dd92jai3VS5/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=142FDMUS05


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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 6:16:15 PM   
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Ya that amp is only 300 watts rms-thats the continous power it puts out. 900 watts peak power. I would probably set the bass boost to 10, lpf to 50 hz, gain to about half way maybe 3/4 way.

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 6:32:18 PM   
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I would probably set the lpf to 50 hz, 
50 Hz is too low, 70 or 100 would sound better imo.

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 6:55:16 PM   
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u guys are awesome
tommroow imma try and mess with it

imma try 70hz


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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 8:40:53 PM   
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hey guys i just went out and tried eveything u guys said but when i turned the gain up to .75 the subs hit really harrd and not really clean, how can i fix that..any other recommendations.





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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/26/2008 10:29:44 PM   
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Ya that amp is only 300 watts rms-thats the continous power it puts out. 900 watts peak power. I would probably set the bass boost to 10, lpf to 50 hz, gain to about half way maybe 3/4 way.


You are a retard.

Set your bass boost to 0
Set your LPF to 100-115
Set your gain to roughly 3/4, give or take. Do this setting with a cd playing at a high but comfortable listening volume, the loudness you would have it if you were cruising down the highway to song you like pretty loud, turn it up until the subwoofer starts making a not so smooth noise, (slight distortion, then back it off a tad)

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/27/2008 8:19:31 AM   
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quote:

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Ya that amp is only 300 watts rms-thats the continous power it puts out. 900 watts peak power. I would probably set the bass boost to 10, lpf to 50 hz, gain to about half way maybe 3/4 way.


You are a retard.

Set your bass boost to 0
Set your LPF to 100-115
Set your gain to roughly 3/4, give or take. Do this setting with a cd playing at a high but comfortable listening volume, the loudness you would have it if you were cruising down the highway to song you like pretty loud, turn it up until the subwoofer starts making a not so smooth noise, (slight distortion, then back it off a tad)
I agree

turn the bass boost down, i never turn mine up.It over boost the signal and gives it a muddy sound.

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/27/2008 8:52:56 AM   
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quote:

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Ya that amp is only 300 watts rms-thats the continous power it puts out. 900 watts peak power. I would probably set the bass boost to 10, lpf to 50 hz, gain to about half way maybe 3/4 way.


You are a retard.

Set your bass boost to 0
Set your LPF to 100-115
Set your gain to roughly 3/4, give or take. Do this setting with a cd playing at a high but comfortable listening volume, the loudness you would have it if you were cruising down the highway to song you like pretty loud, turn it up until the subwoofer starts making a not so smooth noise, (slight distortion, then back it off a tad)


I agree, turn bass boost to 0 and never touch it again. Bass boost is a devil created by amp manufacuters. It serves no useful purpose. Turn it to 0 and i would reccommend setting your gain (input sensitivity as it's called on your amp), with a DMM. If you do not have a dmm then just set it by sound. Put on a cd on a normal listening volume that you usually listen to and adjust the gain until it distorts then back off some.

See bass boost amplifies the signal a lot, and in doing so causes a distorted signal to be sent to your subwoofer causing it to receive a clipped signal. If you look at a sine wave, like when setting with a o-scope, you ideally want a perfect sine wave. When you send a clipped signal to your subwoofer it will fry it very quickly and it is also not good for the amp either.

Also i honestly wouldn't be expecting a ton of output if your only running 300rms to a sub. Sure it's going to have some bump, but it's not going to be a lot unless you have a very efficient box built for it.

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/27/2008 9:01:26 AM   
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I would try and find the volume of that enclosure and replace that sub with something else.

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/27/2008 9:01:39 AM   
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ok thanks, the sub came with the box i bought, so i belive it was made the box was made for that sub

u guys are awesome, i cant wait to go test it out.


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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/28/2008 8:52:16 AM   
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so for the amp i have, what is the best sub out there???

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/28/2008 9:03:37 AM   
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i might want to get a better amp for a 1000 watts do believe everything you see on amps read what it can do

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/28/2008 9:37:47 AM   
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was that english?

I would look into getting something like this

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=2&products_id=31

That's the 13Kv.2 by Elemental Designs.  I don't know the size of the enclosure that you have, but if it is around 1 cu ft you can drop this right in and be set.  If the rough dimensions of the sub box internally is 12 x 12 x 12 you are good to go.

If not, i would buy some MDF and build a box.  It is a lot easier than you think, and only will cost you about $20.  Your home built box and sub will cost $80 less than what you paid for that scosche and be ten times better.  As long as you have some mechanical skills.

your amp only puts out a claimed 300W @ 4 ohm and 500W @ 2 ohm.  This sub will take all of that and maybe a little more.  I would not turn the gain up alll the way on that amp though because i am pretty sure it will clip it. 

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/28/2008 2:59:40 PM   
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This would work with the 300 you got and get quite loud at the same time.

http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=500


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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/29/2008 4:17:53 PM   
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any recommondations of subs on ebay, i got credit i need to spend???

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/29/2008 6:04:53 PM   
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On ebay you can find good deals on infinity subs (I'm partial to the kappa perfects on the sub-$150 range).

How much money are you willing to spend on a sub?

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RE: Question about tunning an amp???? - 2/29/2008 10:16:00 PM   
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i would like to buy the best sub possible for this amp

http://www.cartronixplus.com/templates/detailnf_price.cfm?zq=66909260&uas=N&globaldesc=na&rnumb=886&wherefrom=SEARCH&whichord=441795&department=ALL&class=N&special=R&tablegraphic=%2Fimages%2F&sold=Y&nextrow=Kenwood%20KAC%2D8103d%20Mono%20Power%20AmplifierAMPkac8103d&prevrow=Kenwood%20KAC%2D8103d%20Mono%20Power%20AmplifierAMPkac8103d&nextprev=0&subclass=ALL&subname=na&pagename=Online%20Store%20%3E%20%20%20%3E%20ALL%20%3E%20

and this sub box

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-G3pvoLSa2Q7/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=142FDMUS05


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