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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 1:21:55 PM   
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<snip> aside from the mustang, what ford or dodge car is worth buying?  Not any that I am gonna spend my money on. 


I'm open-minded to foreign cars, both branded and manufactured, but there are plenty of good "American" cars to be had at competitive prices (hello weak dollar and sluggish sales).  I'm quite pleased with the $35k stickered Ram Big Horn Edition that I picked up for $22k.      I'm also seeing Dodge Charger R/T's, loaded with leather and a Hemi going for $24k.  Granted, these cars probably don't fit in well with the current state of fuel prices , but are very good cars for the money.  Before anybody googles it, I'm pretty sure that much of the above listed vehicles comes from or is assembled in Mexico.

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 1:37:34 PM   
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Yeah, BMW builds most of its SUV's (SAV's in BMW speak) in South Carolina, forgot about that.

Gothand, I said almost all trucks, foriegn or domestic, are pretty much equal.  But the Charger is a far cry from matching its competitors.  Yeah, the v8 and rear wheel drive are great, but overall quality and fit and finish is lacking. 

I am praying they do the challenger right, if so, then I will have to change my thinking

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 2:00:58 PM   
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well not to interupt this discussion about foregin and domestic cars but...
He says that his car has 300 ft lbs of torque.
How much did the 302 mustangs have in 68?
also does the gearing in the rear end affect this?
Sorry for so many questions, I am trying to lear as much as I can


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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 3:44:34 PM   
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And, in a very short time, China will be selling cars in America, and we Americans will be buying them for whatever reason that we can think up to make us feel better after we buy.

They'll have to do a LOT better with their cars than they do with some of their pressure vessels before I'd even bother to even note their presence in the automotive field.  This tank peeled itself open at around half the pressure it was supposed to test to, with metallurgy and fabrication both suspect.  Likely wouldn't pass Code anywhere.  I'm told that incidents like this are fairly regular occurrences, perhaps weekly.


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That's why the companies working in the petrolium industry around here avoid buying from China at all costs. Most of them try to get everything fabbed locally. That's just totally unacceptable, it didn't even burst at a seam, the metal wall itself failed. Talk about low grade metallurgy.


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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:07:43 PM   
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well not to interupt this discussion about foregin and domestic cars but...
He says that his car has 300 ft lbs of torque.
How much did the 302 mustangs have in 68?
also does the gearing in the rear end affect this?
Sorry for so many questions, I am trying to lear as much as I can




I could be mistaken but I beleiv the factory specs of a 1968 302 2V is 310lb/ft


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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:16:32 PM   
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Yeah, BMW builds most of its SUV's (SAV's in BMW speak) in South Carolina, forgot about that.

Gothand, I said almost all trucks, foriegn or domestic, are pretty much equal.  But the Charger is a far cry from matching its competitors.  Yeah, the v8 and rear wheel drive are great, but overall quality and fit and finish is lacking. 



What is the European or Asian competition to the Charger?  Off of the top of my head, I can think of no large, muscular sedans in the sub $30K range coming out of there.

Along the European component/design manufactured in the U.S., how does this grab you?

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/29/air.force.tankers/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Northrop Grumman gets $40B deal to replace Air Force tankers
Boeing proposed a tanker based on its 767 commercial airliner, while Northrop -- working with Boeing arch-rival Airbus and its parent company, European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS) -- offered a model based on the Airbus A330 airliner, which is larger than the 767. 

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:29:11 PM   
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The one with the import name, the one designed outside of american auto manufacturers... The point is it carries an American name and American business revenue.... Besides i can't think of any car or truck I would drive from a foriegn auto company or one that I would call a dream car... FORD GMC DODGE (not to mention all the brands that fall underneath these three)- American car companies- I can not see any reason to pick from anything else...

Call me close minded It's just the way I feel and my opinion...



So, you wouldnt call the Bugatti Veyron a dream car!?!?!? and if given the opportunity, you wouldnt drive one!?!?!? Are you on crack!?!?!?

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:37:06 PM   
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I beleive bagatti is a ford or joint company with ford... Once again i may be wrong but I remember them being together at one point. I think I may break down and drive an old aston martin if it came down to it... but only cause I am a Bond Fan

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:47:32 PM   
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Bugatti is owned by Volkswagen, and as far as I know has never been owned by ford. Good choice on the aston.

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 4:53:24 PM   
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Like I said I don't really recall I thought I read a blip about ford doing something or a partner on something... I don't really recall I just thought a W16 sounded cool at the time... 

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 2/29/2008 8:01:19 PM   
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Bugatti has never been linked to Ford, Aston Martin was though until recently. 

As for the Chargers direct competitors from Europe or Asia, none come to mind.  But that does not give it a pass for sh1tty quality.  And yes, I know it has won some JD power BS awards, but who hasnt. 

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 4:33:59 AM   
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Dugan    i remember being in high school....i remember smack talk from a teacher about how fast his car was....i remember talking smack 'bout how fast my car was...i remember that going on for junior/senior year and never coming up with a day to race....i remember how heated the debate got on the subject....i remember at 10 year reunion laughing my butt off with the teacher about the subject....ooooooh the good ol' days.....talk smack...have fun...there will always be someone with a faster/slower car that yours,  classic or current.....

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 11:21:51 AM   
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Dugan    i remember being in high school....i remember smack talk from a teacher about how fast his car was....i remember talking smack 'bout how fast my car was...i remember that going on for junior/senior year and never coming up with a day to race....i remember how heated the debate got on the subject....i remember at 10 year reunion laughing my butt off with the teacher about the subject....ooooooh the good ol' days.....talk smack...have fun...there will always be someone with a faster/slower car that yours,  classic or current.....

Unless you've got NAWZ.

Here's a site that might help you figure out some specs on your engine.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=232


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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 11:27:13 AM   
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OK, I have a question..try not to be to harsh...
Would it look alright if I put a Cowl Induction type scoop on my mustang?

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 11:31:54 AM   
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I think it'd look awesome.

Is this what you were thinking?



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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 11:41:09 AM   
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Pretty much yea, I found one that is 5 inches tall, but I don't know would that be over doing it?
Should I go with a shorter one maybe 3 inches or so?
Opinions pelase!

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 11:46:55 AM   
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I think cowl induction hoods are pretty sweet!  I don't think you can go wrong with it, unless it is just ridiculously too huge, I really like the one posted above and a few of the members on this site that have them I think it looks awesome! I don't think 5 in would be too much either...

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 12:05:17 PM   
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OK thanks.
also, back to the original reason for this thread:
here is the HP and torque specs for his car: 280 HP @ 6,200 rpm; 270 ft lb @ 4800 rpm.
don't the 302's from 68 make their peak HP @ 4800 rpm and torque at 2800 rpm?
Wouldn't reaching you're peak Horsepower at a lower rpm be an advantage

Also, is there a way to tell if you have an aftermarket Torque Converter without pulling the tranny? And if so, how do you guesstimate the stall speed?
Thanks.


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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 12:37:39 PM   
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Yet another question.. I fiugred it would be easyier to ask here than make a whole new thread.
About how much horsepower can I expect to gain with a decent set of heads?

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RE: Infiniti wants to race me? - 3/1/2008 12:57:53 PM   
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If you like the cowl hood, do it. They look really good on some cars (like the black one above). Heads will be the best way to increase your hp as long as you have intake and exhaust to match them.

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