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I see where you guys are coming from and I appreciateyour input, and I thank you for it..but it comes back to my Uncle, he said that I am better off without out, so I just listened to him..
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What else do you guys think I should do to realy make this thing a beast?
And, I know I may sound stupid, I know a decent amount but what is that bar that goes across that block called; its under the hood? and i have no idea what its called or what it does? thanks
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OK to clear things up a little. With the MAF pulled the ECu will use the preprogrammed "best guess" fuel/spark tables. It will not adjust for ACT/ECT and will not be able to monitor air flow to the engine it could try to use adaptive from the O2 readings but I can't remember if that becomes disabled when the MAF is excluded. While it is possible that the car will run, the tune I'm sure will be ridiculously out of wack, especially if he's dropped in 42 pound injectors with no chip or tune. From the sound of your mechanic uncle (very old school) if he knows what he is doing and was good at the craft 30 years ago, I would guess he yanked the maf, put on bigger injectors (not sure why) and adjusted the fuel pressure way down so that the car didn't fall flat on its face at WOT. The 94/95 gts where very particular in terms of mods the stock comp would accept and still allow the car to run. Can't wait to see how this guy feels about trashing the MAF his first major change in temperature, or when he can't start the car after its warmed up. I did see a guy with a 95 last year who had ridiculous amounts of work and was running a stock computer, he had to wait 30 minutes to restart his car if it was warm else it wasn't starting, he did however have an aftermarket ignition and adjustable fuel regulator which he had dialed in for WOT, so at least he wasn't going to blow the engine.
My recomendation... put the maf back in and get a chip burned for a few hundred alot safer and more reliable, then you an start worryinng about maxing out your MAF!
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I do plan on purchasing a new chip, because I know how much they really do make teh engine better compared to the stock system..Do you guys recommend any particular brands for the chip?
I now understand what you guys mean about teh MAF sensor and I will talk to my Uncle this weekend about it.
And, I know I may sound stupid, I know a decent amount but what is that bar that goes across that block called; its under the hood? and i have no idea what its called or what it does? thanks
That's caled a strut bar or strut brace. When your car's body heats up (especially the engine compartment) the metal becomes more pliable. This means that when you're driving, and corner at a given speed, the car's body actually BENDS with the intertial forces twisting it. This causes that centrifugal impact you feel with stock suspension sedans cornering at 30mph or so. A strut bar is technically part of your suspension system. It keeps the frame of the engine bay (they make 'em for the trunk, but these are a waste of money, as you don't need them) and frame from bending in turns. It allows for tighter cornering, and more importantly, if you're running at a circuit, your engine bay won't look like a Picasso. If you're just using your car as a street car, you don't need a strut bar. You can get it to feel cool if you want, but it won't make much difference thank what I stated above. Good luck!
And agree with the folks above: It is a scientific cerainty that if you take out the MAF, and you'll be lucky to be able to accelerate at all (limp home mode should engage). Do you know what the MAF is, by the way? Maybe your uncle took out something else?
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Thanks for clearing up the strut bar thing..I talked to my Uncle and I misiterpreted him, he took out the "screen" as he says in the MAF not the MAF itself..sorry for the mix up
he took out the "screen" as he says in the MAF not the MAF itself
Ah! There you go. We all thought apples were falling back up onto their branches!
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Thanks for clearing up the strut bar thing
---my pleasure entirely. That's what we're here for. ;-) And don't be afraid to get greasy with your unlce--it's a lot of fun. Good luck on the mods!
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Thanks again for your help, guys, and don't worry I have been getting greasy with him, he doesn't let me do anythying, lol, but I watch and learn a lot from him, hopefully I can make my mustang as insane as his 650 hp Chevelle..haha doubt it but you never know.. Thanks again for all your help guys
Anytime, Albizo66! 650hp Chavelle sounds like a mean mother! I'm sure you'll get there. Good luck!
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True, but it ain't CHEAP either, unless it's a Chevy! Damn near anybody can buy parts and make a fast Chevy but it ain't as easy or cheap with a Ford!! LOL
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you can't really realistically get there with a stock 5.0 engine block as they tend to split at around 500 HP or so. you need to go with bored and stroked 351 engine or even maybe a 460 big block to get this power level and it will cost you big big bucks in order to do it. a good aftermarket block like the Dart Iron Eagle with 4 bolt mains costs over $2,000 for the bare block alone, then by the time you add in a forged steel crank, forged steel rods, forged aluminum pistons, balancing work, high flow aluminum heads with a high lift cam, rockers, etc. you will easily land up spending close to $10,000 or more depending upon which pieces you use and how much work you can do yourself. the real bottom line, not being sarcastic at all, is: SPEED COSTS MONEY, HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO????? if you don't believe me, just go to some engine building sites like www.dss.com or www.bennetracing.com or www.coasthigh.com and look at some of their combinations and prices!
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Haha..just a little bit out of my price range lol..not at my age..how much do you think I could get to with the stock 5.0 block..I gotta be over 320 now
320?? I'd be praying for a 250 on the dyno. Sorry to burst your bubble, but hp costs more than the mild modding you have. Don't feel bad--you have a very strong pony. I got a 4.6 vert with less mods than you, and I can kick the asses of 90% of the people on the road today. Your car can do better than that, probably. But you're not going to reach 300 with natural aspiration on a 5.0. You want to break the barrier? Save for a supercharger. Good luck!
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with your mods, you're looking at abou 270 hp AT THE CRANK TOPS-- I'd be surprised to even see that. It's probably at around 230 to the wheels. You'll get to your numbers don't worry-remember one important thing: It's not the mods or power that makes you win races--it's HOW you race. I've seen 400 hp cars get their asses handed to them by 230 hp mustangs because the mustang was a better driver. Focus more on your skill, and let the mods come as they may. 230 hp at the crank is damn decent. Be proud of that.
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with your mods, you're looking at abou 270 hp AT THE CRANK TOPS-- I'd be surprised to even see that. It's probably at around 230 to the wheels. You'll get to your numbers don't worry-remember one important thing: It's not the mods or power that makes you win races--it's HOW you race. I've seen 400 hp cars get their asses handed to them by 230 hp mustangs because the mustang was a better driver. Focus more on your skill, and let the mods come as they may. 230 hp at the crank is damn decent. Be proud of that.
Wow, didn't think it would be that low..how much does the 95 5.0 come with stock? You are right about the how you race/drive part..I knew that and have been worknig on my skill constantly, not quite were I want to be yet, but I'm definaetly on my way..
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HOLY CRAP!!! I did not know it was THAT low!!! Damn..I thought the 260 stock horse on like a 2000 GT was low..wow..thanks for clearin that up..damn still can't get over that..V8 big 5.0 and ford makes 215..wow pathetic
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