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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 6:17:30 AM   
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Advertised Duration: 261 Intake / 274 Exhaust
Lift : .450 Intake / .450 Exhaust
Lobe Separation: 115.5 Degree

According to Brenspeeds website, the above are the specs for the NSR Cams
Below are the specs for the cams the recomend springs, etc.

Advertised Duration: 261 Intake / 278 Exhaust
Lift : .490 Intake / .480 Exhaust
Lobe Separation: 115.5 Degree


Hope this helps.  This info is listed in thier tech articles

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 9:12:47 AM   
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Great! now lets have someone explain to us what that means. Cause i sure dont know

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 11:22:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: majustin1

Advertised Duration: 261 Intake / 274 Exhaust
Lift : .450 Intake / .450 Exhaust
Lobe Separation: 115.5 Degree

According to Brenspeeds website, the above are the specs for the NSR Cams
Below are the specs for the cams the recomend springs, etc.

Advertised Duration: 261 Intake / 278 Exhaust
Lift : .490 Intake / .480 Exhaust
Lobe Separation: 115.5 Degree


Hope this helps.  This info is listed in thier tech articles


It helps A LOT actually...

Okay, here's my take...

Not such a good deal IMO and here's why...

The LSA (lobe seperation angle) is a good choice for a FI car. Not so good for an N/A car. If you call BBR and talk to them they will admit the biggest gains from their cams are seen on N/A cars. The reason is their cams have a lsa of 114 and the tighter lsa works better with n/a cars. The lsa of these cams is more ideal for a car with FI but the downside is with FI, you really want to make sure you have the upgraded springs in your valve train anyway. The lift and duration is not 'too conservative', in fact, it's better than I expected with these cams being 'NSR' but I still would like to see more lift in a camshaft for the 3V. The lift is a little too mild for my taste for the money IMO.

If I was n/a - I would want a 114 lsa and if I was FI, I would want better springs and retainers anyway so I really don't see how these are a good deal in the long run. Looks to be a cost savings solution to benefit guys wanting to save a few bucks but I really don't see them being a 'good' deal in the long run either way.

However, I know for a fact comp cams can change the lsa of any cam up to 1 1/2 degree so if I was n/a, I would ask comp to change the lsa on these to a 114 and then I actually think they would be a really good buy for n/a guys...

CK

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 11:55:31 AM   
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I agree from the little i know about cams.  I don't know that much about LSA, but the lift increase is very mild.  But maybe the set-up seems to be like it is to keep from losing lowend torque which many people see when installing cams without supporting flow mods like LT headers.  I would be interested to see what brenspeed could to do tune the cams if they were to get to the above suggested 114 LSA - price and performance wise.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 4:03:00 PM   
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brent got back to me today but would get more info for me tomorrow....it might be that same as you got or maybe a bit more. I might email him back about getting comp cams to adjust the LSA a little...stayed tuned for more from the lovely folks at brenspeed and of course, the overwhelming knowledge that CK has for us.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/20/2008 5:24:41 PM   
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Great info in this thread and there seems to be more to come. Thanks for the research and knowledge guys!

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 3:23:45 PM   
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Just got back from having the NSR cams installed on my S/C'd car (Saleen T/S), check out Brenspeeds customer section and you can see the results.  I was totally pleased and shocked by the results, the car picked up really nice gains for the money. 584 bhp and 493 rwhp.  The dyno sheet is on there also.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 3:32:19 PM   
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not bad at all....no info from them today BTW

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 3:38:01 PM   
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Stopped at the largest McDonald's I've ever seen in Fisher Ind.  on my way back to Missouri today. 

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 3:52:10 PM   
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haha....was it the new one by the target?

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 3:58:35 PM   
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Right off the interstate, and didn't notice a Target, but there could of been one, food and drink was on my mind hence "Phatphil".

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 4:00:22 PM   
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haha....i live right across from pinheads if you saw that. Pretty nice place to bowl.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 5:57:01 PM   
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Does it have like 3 large bowling pin type bill board above it?  I thought I saw some bowling alley that gave me reason to pause.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/21/2008 6:01:13 PM   
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yep that would be it

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/22/2008 2:11:11 PM   
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hows the sound? did it add some any noticeable lope?

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/22/2008 2:13:17 PM   
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Update:

quote:

Brenspeed NSR Cams


.450 LIFT
Duration at .050 Intake 222 Exhaust 235

My cam designer is on vacation and he has all the lobe seps on file. From memory I am thinking it is 116 but I wouldn’t want to guarantee it I have to confirm when he returns.


Doesnt match up with what is on the 1st post of ths page....i will wait and see for the rest of the info i guess.......

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/22/2008 2:27:56 PM   
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Thats from brenspeed? Did you point out what it actually said on their site?

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/22/2008 2:34:14 PM   
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no i didnt email them back yet....i will wait to get all then email them back with a few questions....if someone else would like to email and ask feel free....

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/22/2008 5:03:34 PM   
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If your asking me about the sound there is a different sound at idle but not what I would call a lope.  The car really came on after 5200 on the dyno.  For the price I think its a pretty good gain.

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RE: MUSTANG NSR CUSTOM 3V CAM SET - 2/23/2008 7:31:42 AM   
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Just posting the link to Brenspeeds page where I got the info.
Since they posted gains on a mustang with just a CAI/tune, you would think they/comp cams, would have designed the cams for NA cars, with a different set-up for FI.


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