but do i need to change anything else..springs k member its an aod(can it bolt up?..or need c6?)...also i got the sloozy 460...what heads and cam do i need to wake it up(not MONSTER HP jus 375-400 crank HP)-thanks guys-P.S sry for all the quastions lol
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yea it can be done... but 2 things... that big of a motor, why shooting for such low hp? why not go balls out stroke it to 521 and kick some ass with it
what year bbf are you looking at ? the old 460's in the late 60's lincolns push 425 stock .i agree with dimebag if you gonna run bbf goes balls to the wall , make it a neck breaker .if all you want is a little over 400 hp i would look for a late 60's lincoln mark series 460 like i said they are already about 425hp stock.
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they never came with that much, ur thinkin of the 427 fe motors. no the most thse motors came with stock was 375. Now, ur combo completely depends on what ur budget is. There are plenty of options, but seeing as how ur goal is so limited then go with some DOVE, C9 or C8 heads, stock, and put a comp solid roller in it with a stealth or torquer intake on a stock bottom end and be done.
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what year bbf are you looking at ? the old 460's in the late 60's lincolns push 425 stock .i agree with dimebag if you gonna run bbf goes balls to the wall , make it a neck breaker .if all you want is a little over 400 hp i would look for a late 60's lincoln mark series 460 like i said they are already about 425hp stock.
1968 lincold with suicude doors have a 425 hp 460 in them at least all the ones i have seen have the 460 /425 hp sticker on the air cleaner , i know the 427's make good hp but good luck finding one , although i have seen quite a few 429 cj' and scj's for sale lateley , i could be wrong on the lincoln 460's but i am just going on what i have seen , another good hp bbf are the 390 hipo and the 390 pi's they make good power ,use a set of 429 heads on them and they are real beast's
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ok, listen not one thing you said here was correct, the 385 engine series NEVER came with more than 375 rated at he factory, the ones u saw may have been modded or something but they did not have that power stock. Now the FE motors and the 385 series motors are COMPLETELY different so you couldnt just throw 429 heads on an fe it wont work. unless you ment the 427. but you are right, the 390s are very very good motors, I know cause I own one
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1968 lincold with suicude doors have a 425 hp 460 in them at least all the ones i have seen have the 460 /425 hp sticker on the air cleaner , i know the 427's make good hp but good luck finding one , although i have seen quite a few 429 cj' and scj's for sale lateley , i could be wrong on the lincoln 460's but i am just going on what i have seen , another good hp bbf are the 390 hipo and the 390 pi's they make good power ,use a set of 429 heads on them and they are real beast's
your right i have em backwards ,i am like that with my numbers ,i was looking at a 429 cj forsale while i was typeing , i ment 427.i know the 390's are bad @$$ i had a 66 fairlane gt with a 390 pi out of a 64 galaxy police car , that car was flat fast i thought , man i still wish i had that car . no hard feelin's ih8checy ,because we share the same hate for chevy. i tell ya what tho i have seen 1 427 ford in a speed shop for sale when i was like 15 , they wanted 16k for it then it was susposed to have been built by shelby ?
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yea no hard feelings stangbanger, its all good. yea man those 427 fe's are so expensive, i saw a sideoiler block the other day just the block for 7500 dollars. Your much better off with the 429/460 for not only power potential but cost. I love them 66 fairlanes, they are tied with my car, 69 torino, for my favorite car ever. If I had the money I would definately put a 385 series motor in one of them and rape chevy's all day, but im still poor. oh and yea chevy sucks.
what type of torino do you have , gt talladega ,flat torino , and yeah here lately where i live (ohio) i have seen alot of 429's come up for sale around here , and man i really wish i still had my old fairlane ,it made 396 chevelles look like chevette's ,but i ran into money trouble a while back and she had to go , and the guy who bought it his boy took it to his high school prom and totaled it after the prom leaveing aparty drunk as a skunk, i was sick for a week after .i would recomend a 390 to any one who is looking for a good big block .don't get me wrong 460's are good (the older ones ) but i always liked the 390bbf .
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i have a 69 torino vert, being painted right now, its gonna be beautiful car. yea those 396 motors were really not taht good stock, I mean sharing the same characteristics as a 454 they can be made to go fast cheap, but stock 390's would eat em up. Man that sucks about that guy what an idiot, I think I would shoot him if that were my former car. and yea its ashame the 390 is so f*cking expensive to make fast other wise I would love to put on in my fox. but the 460 is a very good replacement.
agreed they are expensive to build , i have seen a 89 gt with a 66 390 hipo in it for sale around here but it wasn't finished it need wired and shft put in and just a bunch of odds and ends but man when he jumped it over to hear it run it sounded sweet .can you pm me some pics of that torino vert , i don't think i have seen one around here , just the hard top and fast backsand gt's , and 1 torino cobra, it is funny because my first car was a 76 gran torino i loved it to it wasn't fast but it was a nice ride
I would be trying to get atleast 500 horse out of a 460, you gotta add in the extra weight
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the extra weight is barely 200 lbs, so thats what 2 tenths if the power output is the sames as the 302. and its easily gonna be faster. The torque alone will cover what that wieght adds on.
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I would be trying to get atleast 500 horse out of a 460, you gotta add in the extra weight
Yeah, the powerhouse early 460's in the Lincolns were 365hp with 500lb.ft. Use the later model D3VE heads with some 10 to 1 compression pistons unless you are going with aftermarket aluminum heads.
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Actually Doves would be better for his setup, b/c its seems as though he wants just a bolt on 460, and with D3' s they have gigantic 97 or so cc chambers lowering the cr a good bit. So the doves would up the cr, with slightly better intake and exhaust performance. But good luck
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Yeah, the powerhouse early 460's in the Lincolns were 365hp with 500lb.ft. Use the later model D3VE heads with some 10 to 1 compression pistons unless you are going with aftermarket aluminum heads.
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thats b/c you wont hear about it. the nhra mags are all chevy biased and they all say the same thing, bbc is the only bb out there to make power with. and the net dont help either sites like this wont even support a bb section, the mods in there all ignorance wont see to it, yet there is a section strictly for cop foxes. anyway yea the 460 block a standard 2 bolt oem block is good for over 800 hp and torque, and the factory heads some can support up to 850 or so hp, like the dooe-r heads and the passenger car heads, dove, c9ve, c8ve, can support over 700 hp. The reason u dont see so much is cause of factory bakcing which ford does very little of with these motors, mostly b/c of Bob Glidden, but thats another story and chevy gets a ton of factory backing.
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wow i didnt know ford made so much big v8 power :D
hmmm maybe i should start looking for a 460 around town maybe i can find me a ford motor somewhere. i seen plenty of 390s but if i can find me something bigger than the 460 i might have to look into it.