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Which engine is the best choice?


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351W
  16% (4)
351C
  37% (9)
429
  8% (2)
460
  8% (2)


Total Votes : 24


(last vote on : 4/13/2005 8:32:39 PM)
(Poll ended: 4/18/2005 3:14:00 PM)
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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/5/2005 9:42:14 PM   
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a bit oftopic but... i think i would like having a 427 cammer...
"This is the famous 427 cammer, the most powerful engine ever to come out of Detroit" 657 BHP



no not off topic , and as a rule if the cammer wer ever to come up in in aney thread at aney time , not just mustang fourms eaven in the martha stewart fourm the cammer makes it self relavant . so thanks for the pic I did copy it

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/5/2005 9:43:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FoMoCo_Jeppe

a bit oftopic but... i think i would like having a 427 cammer...
"This is the famous 427 cammer, the most powerful engine ever to come out of Detroit" 657 BHP



no not off topic , and as a rule of thumb if the cammer wer ever to come up in in aney thread at aney time , not just mustang fourms eaven in the martha stewart fourm the cammer makes it self relavant . so thanks for the pic I did copy it

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/5/2005 10:55:26 PM   
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The M was in trucks.


Yeah, it had a 351C 4bbl. I messed that up, the engine code for that is "M".

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 12:58:31 AM   
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I guess I should have been more specific of what I am after. This car is going to be a weekend car that I would like to be able to preform well on the track but still be drivable home. I would like to have at least 400bhp and would like to do this in the most reliable way possible. I don't need the cheapest when it comes to parts but I would like to keep the total engine cost reasonable too. The engine will be mated to a C6 tranny if that makes a difference. Thanks for all the replies.

Micetic

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 8:36:22 AM   
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I would stay with a small block. 460s are just to big.

And block to block the 327s are faster then the 396s. Small blocks rev faster.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:03:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: micetic

I guess I should have been more specific of what I am after. This car is going to be a weekend car that I would like to be able to preform well on the track but still be drivable home. I would like to have at least 400bhp and would like to do this in the most reliable way possible. I don't need the cheapest when it comes to parts but I would like to keep the total engine cost reasonable too. The engine will be mated to a C6 tranny if that makes a difference. Thanks for all the replies.

Micetic

Then, this engine sounds to be about what you are looking for.
It's a 400 HP Stroker crate engine. Costs about $5,500
http://www.fordcobraengines.com/347_400Horsepower.htm




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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:11:58 AM   
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Been down this road before and I won't do it again. You are correct, a 460 is too big and a 396/375 is a slow reving slug. n/m
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I would stay with a small block. 460s are just to big.

And block to block the 327s are faster then the 396s. Small blocks rev faster.



< Message edited by 69FECoupe -- 4/6/2005 9:35:07 AM >

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:14:09 AM   
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Do you already have the tranny? If so, what bolt pattern does it have?

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:36:08 AM   
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Go to any of the fastest musclecar lists and see how the small blocks compare. Out of the top 50, I think there are 4 small blocks included and they are no where near the top of the list. The highest ranking SB is the 71 Boss351 in about 25th place. The 62 Corvette 327 fulie placed in the mid-thirties. A 66 Shelby and a 64 289 Cobra ranked in the high fifties The rest were all big blocks.
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ORIGINAL: horseshoeing

I would stay with a small block. 460s are just to big.

And block to block the 327s are faster then the 396s. Small blocks rev faster.




Off the line the small block is over all faster. In the 1/4 the big block will over all win if you built the heck out of it. The big block can't hook up. The 289 Cobra would beat the 427 Cobra off the line. So block to block and on the street I vote for the small block.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:49:46 AM   
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As I said above (I revised my reply to you), you're absolutely correct.
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 69FECoupe

Go to any of the fastest musclecar lists and see how the small blocks compare. Out of the top 50, I think there are 4 small blocks included and they are no where near the top of the list. The highest ranking SB is the 71 Boss351 in about 25th place. The 62 Corvette 327 fulie placed in the mid-thirties. A 66 Shelby and a 64 289 Cobra ranked in the high fifties The rest were all big blocks.
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ORIGINAL: horseshoeing

I would stay with a small block. 460s are just to big.

And block to block the 327s are faster then the 396s. Small blocks rev faster.




Off the line the small block is over all faster. In the 1/4 the big block will over all win if you built the heck out of it. The big block can't hook up. The 289 Cobra would beat the 427 Cobra off the line. So block to block and on the street I vote for the small block.


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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:50:53 AM   
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Hey guys, will a 460 even fit under the hood of that '71?

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 9:54:50 AM   
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A 460 is the exact same block as a 429. It will go into a 71-73 with no problem and all of the mounts and brackets from a 429 will fit.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 10:03:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 69FECoupe

A 460 is the exact same block as a 429. It will go into a 71-73 with no problem and all of the mounts and brackets from a 429 will fit.
OK, I was wondering if the 429CJ was the same block as the 460. But, they still weren't over 400 BWHP were they?

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 10:20:49 AM   
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Dimensionally, they are the same. IIRC, the 429CJ was rated at about 370 HP. That was a conservative estimate as the Insurance companies were starting to crack down. With very little work, you could be well up into the 400's.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 10:41:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 69FECoupe

As I said above (I revised my reply to you), you're absolutely correct.
quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: 69FECoupe

Go to any of the fastest musclecar lists and see how the small blocks compare. Out of the top 50, I think there are 4 small blocks included and they are no where near the top of the list. The highest ranking SB is the 71 Boss351 in about 25th place. The 62 Corvette 327 fulie placed in the mid-thirties. A 66 Shelby and a 64 289 Cobra ranked in the high fifties The rest were all big blocks.
quote:

ORIGINAL: horseshoeing

I would stay with a small block. 460s are just to big.

And block to block the 327s are faster then the 396s. Small blocks rev faster.




Off the line the small block is over all faster. In the 1/4 the big block will over all win if you built the heck out of it. The big block can't hook up. The 289 Cobra would beat the 427 Cobra off the line. So block to block and on the street I vote for the small block.





Thanks, I know I am right. Your fun to play with and get you heated up over nothing.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 12:10:00 PM   
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So, now we have come down to "quickness" vs. raw horsepower muscle. I vote for quickness everytime, especially since we now have to take out a loan from the bank just to fill our gas tanks up.

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 2:20:33 PM   
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This stuff cracks me up. I don't give a rats a$$ who is ahead thirty feet from the light. That's not the place to race. I may be wrong but all these years I thought that the winner was the guy who crossed the finish line first at the track. I don't think they give out prizes for the best thirty or sixty feet. Below are three different sites that list the fastest musclecars according to their "quickness" in the quarter mile. Maybe I'm missing something but I see way more big blocks than small blocks. I guess all three sites are nothing but BS.

And Horseshoeing, I'm not upset with you. I'm just a bit frustrated that an adult would go out of his way to try and piss off another forum member. But then again, it shouldn't surprise me as you seem to be proud of the fact that you were kicked out of the Nissan club. Cheers.

http://www.earlham.edu/~byersjo/top50.htm
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/thehistoryof/75739/

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 2:27:08 PM   
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[moderator hat on] Flaming members on this forum will not be tolerated. [modertor hat off]

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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 2:57:27 PM   
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this is like Jerry Springer

Wow you would realy compare a big block to a small block .. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Get real if you think a small block will take a big block out of the dig your nuts .. Or you olny got a small block and are lieing to your self, need the self reasurrance ....


BIG BLOCKS RULE PEORID .... they are thisty little piggys doo

but on the other side small blocks are more practile for the street and cheapper to build to


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RE: Which engine is the best choice? - 4/6/2005 3:09:06 PM   
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Ok, I am not trying to make anyone mad. I am just talking about motors. I know not everyone likes a 289. I am ok with that.

In a road race they will sometimes use a V6 and they win too. Big does not mean better. More horses does not mean that you will win.

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