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RE: best mod's - 2/19/2008 6:36:32 AM   
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I'm stickying this because there's some darn good info flying around in here (good job, rebel!)

As long as the discussion stays on task (i.e. - tech related), it will stay up here and we'll start to build the tech side of our section.

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RE: best mod's - 2/19/2008 6:42:58 AM   
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sweet! we're gonna be like everyone else!

yes, a mach pushing boost would benefit even more than the non-boosted mach due to the volume of air being smashed into the engine.

another fairly cheap mod for the machs would be to port and polish the intake....im trying to run down NAZman to get prices.


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RE: best mod's - 2/20/2008 12:58:33 PM   
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ok here is nazman's prices for his services

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The rates are as follows:

Intakes fully ported/cut plenum, TIG welded and Painted: $525.00 Shipped
Same as above but Short Runner: $875.00 Shipped
Heads: $550.00 each shipped (this is a full-on port ~308/226CFMs I/E at .500 lift! Gains of over 30% from .100 lift! Flowed by Modular Performance.

Turn around for intakes is ~10 days, for head work ~3 weeks.

Naz



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RE: best mod's - 3/5/2008 11:55:20 AM   
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The aluminum driveshaft is something I'm looking at doing. I do know that the spacer is mainly a torque mod. She does feel a bit stronger throughout... not necessarily faster, but just strong... a bit more umph.

Spacer = a great mod for the money

having more torque is more fun anyways



Are gears on this list? Though the install for gears can be reletively expenisve, so can LTs and such. I would love to get some 4.30 gears

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RE: best mod's - 3/5/2008 2:05:39 PM   
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gears added, i dont know the average price, so i left it blank.

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RE: best mod's - 3/5/2008 6:32:17 PM   
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gears added, i dont know the average price, so i left it blank.


It looks like they're roundy around $160-$200 for just the gears. Install is a different story thought.

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RE: best mod's - 3/6/2008 7:31:30 PM   
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sweet! we're gonna be like everyone else!

yes, a mach pushing boost would benefit even more than the non-boosted mach due to the volume of air being smashed into the engine.

another fairly cheap mod for the machs would be to port and polish the intake....im trying to run down NAZman to get prices.



From the thread DanB threw up on the registry it looks like a ported and polished doesn't make any power at all. Of course DanB also claims no hp gains with longtubes so . . .

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RE: best mod's - 3/6/2008 9:55:38 PM   
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yeah, i dont do much posting over there, jsut reading, but no gains from LT's is a litte retarted

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RE: best mod's - 3/16/2008 5:54:08 PM   
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Very retarded! That would be against all laws of physics.

$550's not a bad price for a port and polish, especially on the heads. PHP wants $1200 to port the intake.  Those gains on the ported heads are impressive with that amount of lift.

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RE: best mod's - 3/16/2008 7:28:38 PM   
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i have a few questions
long vs shortie headers? why are longs better?

X vs H pipe. Is x any better over h?

how well do the machs react to pullies?



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RE: best mod's - 3/16/2008 8:19:52 PM   
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long tubes give you more of a down low grunt, and shorties are up high.
the x/h pipe is very debate which is better, IMO if you want a raspy sound and more top end go with the X pipe, and the H pipe will give you more of a mid range power with a more muscley sound.

they react to pullies like fat chicks do to salad something bad is going to happen.


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RE: best mod's - 3/16/2008 8:25:18 PM   
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they react to pullies like fat chicks do to salad something bad is going to happen.



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RE: best mod's - 3/17/2008 3:29:28 AM   
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i have a few questions
long vs shortie headers? why are longs better?

X vs H pipe. Is x any better over h?

how well do the machs react to pullies?




Technically an X pipe will yield more power because it flows better. Scavenging effect?

The difference will be minimal in power gains though. Maybe 2-3rwhp difference between the two. Pick the one that will give you the sound that you are looking for.

I have heard bad things about pullies on Machs. From what I have heard, the cause the oil pump shaft to break and that leads to nonfunctional engines.


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RE: best mod's - 3/27/2008 7:55:52 AM   
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RE: best mod's - 3/27/2008 4:06:37 PM   
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Nice mod on the Pro Charger but you left out Cobra Throttle Body and inlet.  Hugh difference over the stock.  Stock produced 1089 cfm and the Cobra Throttle Body is full 1700 cfm.  You will gain another 24 HP and 18 lb/tq just from the throttle body and inlet.  It will set you back $600 but it's worth every pennie.

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RE: best mod's - 3/27/2008 4:12:43 PM   
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Their are a difference between X-pipe and H-pipe by brand.  BBK make's H-pipe and they suck.  SLP and Bassani make's the best X-pipe.

Long tube headers are better because they are equal length by design.  If you have a pair of equal length shorty headers they are equal to the long tube.

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RE: best mod's - 4/22/2008 7:32:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: USMCrebel

ok here is nazman's prices for his services

quote:

The rates are as follows:

Intakes fully ported/cut plenum, TIG welded and Painted: $525.00 Shipped
Same as above but Short Runner: $875.00 Shipped
Heads: $550.00 each shipped (this is a full-on port ~308/226CFMs I/E at .500 lift! Gains of over 30% from .100 lift! Flowed by Modular Performance.

Turn around for intakes is ~10 days, for head work ~3 weeks.

Naz




I'm very interested in the gains for each. On M1R, I saw ported non-runner intakes show gains of 10rwhp on a near stock vehicle, but wondered about the short-runner gains. Also, any idea what P&P heads would give for gains? I know on 2V's and 3V's P&P head gains are in the department of 30-35rwhp on near stock vehicles. Both would definitly seem worth the gain if one could install the parts themselves, but I still wonder the gains/gain ranges of the 2 parts that I don't know. 

oc192, $600 for a throttle body and inlet with 24hp/18torque gains! Nice, what other mods were on the car at the time of the dyno, gains from the inlet and throttle body? Is this a part you can just buy from anywhere or need to find used in a f/s section or junkyard?

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RE: best mod''s - 6/30/2008 11:53:32 PM   
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Any reason you would choose accufab tb over bbk?

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RE: best mod''''s - 7/1/2008 7:28:25 AM   
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the BBK has many issues with surging, hanging RPMs, and just plain not working

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RE: best mod''s - 7/7/2008 1:14:13 PM   
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Sorry for the slow response.  For the 2V and 3V motors the PI Stange I II and III are making serious power.  But you have to do the complete package.  Patriot Performance are making the best heads for 2V.  If you go with their complete package you see and feel the difference.  Unfortunately; you are limited how far you can on hp because of your botton end.  Please check what are the limits how much power you can make on your motor.

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