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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:37:48 AM
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SpecterGT260
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ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260 what things did i say that I cant know? i said we shouldnt say these kids deserve it, that alot of us (which u confirmed) do the same thing, and that the passengers were other people from that forum who also owned m5's, there was a thread linked. my info seems much less speculative. as for the swerve, allow me to speculate the same way u did, maybe a small animal like a rabbit, squirrel, deer, or alligator (they were in florida of course) came across the runway? or maybe he braked too hard? i dont care what the car is, there are ways to defeat its safety features. I dont know. either way, i dont think the kid deserved it, i dont think we should spit on his grave or his parents, i think the kid did make a mistake, but i think its a mistake that is much easier to make than you people give him credit for. especially if the car feels like its going much slower, a side effect of bmw. this is why when i have kids i will buy them cars, because my dad got me my first one, a 98 corolla, and like that, their first cars will be bad handling and underpowered so they know what real limitations are. I agree completely that kid shouldnt have had the car, it pisses me off when i see that, there is a freshman here at my school with an m6 and he tools around in that thing everywhere he goes showing off. but 5 people died, so although my irritation stems from a mixture of logic and jealousy (which come on, nobody here can say that jealousy has nothing to do with ur feelings when we are talking about these cars... or u can.... but ud be lying) those feelings are pretty damn petty when the results are taken into consideration that's true... but you have to admit, my theory shouldn't be discredited at all everyones entitled to an opinion and I'm not saying yours is wrong... but that is just mine also keep into affect runways are fenced in... every one of them have to be in the US, it's a saftey regulation just for what you described ok, i think we can both be happy with that
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:40:26 AM
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Morbid Intentions
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I just diddn't understand anything about this story, the only reason I can see pushing the limits of the braking distance is that he was greedy for more speed, in which an M5 will reach 150MPH well before 1.5 miles at WOT, the electronic limit for an M5 is 155MPH... after that the car just dumbs down and doesn't push, so why continue to the end and challenge your safe braking distance for no reason? couple that with all of the variables I'm giving you, it's just really fishy Imma stop now, I feel like a f*cking lawyer
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:41:48 AM
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i thought he was on a 1/2 mile strip, but i could be wrong
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:42:02 AM
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at least john travolta got his name in the story, that makes the most sense of this entire thing.?!:;
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:42:37 AM
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ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260 i thought he was on a 1/2 mile strip, but i could be wrong it was a 1.5 mile strip.
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ORIGINAL: MustangMan628 V-6 is for real drivers. Go buy a Jetta if you want gas mileage and a chicks car. Buy a V-8 Mustang if you have no driving ability and need the extra horsepower to compensate and feel like you''''''''re fast.
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:44:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions I just diddn't understand anything about this story, the only reason I can see pushing the limits of the braking distance is that he was greedy for more speed, in which an M5 will reach 150MPH well before 1.5 miles at WOT, the electronic limit for an M5 is 155MPH... after that the car just dumbs down and doesn't push, so why continue to the end and challenge your safe braking distance for no reason? couple that with all of the variables I'm giving you, it's just really fishy Imma stop now, I feel like a f*cking lawyer Once again, you are looking at this from the perspective of an experienced high powered vehicle driver. You are 18, have your friends in your fathers fancy powerful car, and lots of smooth open road ahead of you. You put your foot to the floor, all your friends go WOW so you just keep it to the floor thinking your friends will be more and more impressed. Suddenly, everything is going REALLY fast, it is late, and all the pavement ahead of you looks exactly the same because it is a runway. Then, all of a sudden out of the darkness comes the end of the runway, coming faster than you could have imagined. You choke, slam your foot on the break and try and turn (Maybe on the left of the runway there was no ditch down, he was trying to get onto that safe area? Who knows) lose control. Game over.
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:49:30 AM
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could the car have flew several feet while flipping from going sidewayz6.0? there may have been something on the runway to cause it to go airborn (its probably in the article...that i didn't read that well).
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:53:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions I just diddn't understand anything about this story, the only reason I can see pushing the limits of the braking distance is that he was greedy for more speed, in which an M5 will reach 150MPH well before 1.5 miles at WOT, the electronic limit for an M5 is 155MPH... after that the car just dumbs down and doesn't push, so why continue to the end and challenge your safe braking distance for no reason? couple that with all of the variables I'm giving you, it's just really fishy Imma stop now, I feel like a f*cking lawyer Once again, you are looking at this from the perspective of an experienced high powered vehicle driver. You are 18, have your friends in your fathers fancy powerful car, and lots of smooth open road ahead of you. You put your foot to the floor, all your friends go WOW so you just keep it to the floor thinking your friends will be more and more impressed. Suddenly, everything is going REALLY fast, it is late, and all the pavement ahead of you looks exactly the same because it is a runway. Then, all of a sudden out of the darkness comes the end of the runway, coming faster than you could have imagined. You choke, slam your foot on the break and try and turn (Maybe on the left of the runway there was no ditch down, he was trying to get onto that safe area? Who knows) lose control. Game over. but it doesn't take an experieced driver to use your eyesight, "wow I'm going fast!... oh I'm getting closer to the end of the runway, I can tell because of those big f*cking trees in front of me and the car isn't pushing anymore" (ease on the brakes) everyone is fine when I was 10 I knew if I locked up a cars brakes at high speeds it would pwn you... you are saying these kids diddn't?
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 10:55:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: Zanador quote:
ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions I just diddn't understand anything about this story, the only reason I can see pushing the limits of the braking distance is that he was greedy for more speed, in which an M5 will reach 150MPH well before 1.5 miles at WOT, the electronic limit for an M5 is 155MPH... after that the car just dumbs down and doesn't push, so why continue to the end and challenge your safe braking distance for no reason? couple that with all of the variables I'm giving you, it's just really fishy Imma stop now, I feel like a f*cking lawyer Once again, you are looking at this from the perspective of an experienced high powered vehicle driver. You are 18, have your friends in your fathers fancy powerful car, and lots of smooth open road ahead of you. You put your foot to the floor, all your friends go WOW so you just keep it to the floor thinking your friends will be more and more impressed. Suddenly, everything is going REALLY fast, it is late, and all the pavement ahead of you looks exactly the same because it is a runway. Then, all of a sudden out of the darkness comes the end of the runway, coming faster than you could have imagined. You choke, slam your foot on the break and try and turn (Maybe on the left of the runway there was no ditch down, he was trying to get onto that safe area? Who knows) lose control. Game over. but it doesn't take an experieced driver to use your eyesight, "wow I'm going fast!... oh I'm getting closer to the end of the runway, I can tell because of those big f*cking trees in front of me and the car isn't pushing anymore" (ease on the brakes) everyone is fine when I was 10 I knew if I locked up a cars brakes at high speeds it would pwn you... you are saying these kids diddn't? Sorry, that is WAY more common sense than a dude in his father's M5 that he didn't do anything for could possibly posses
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 11:02:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: 99BlackPonyGT ^ the trees were over a drop off, he might not have seen them, also it was pitch black out, so it was probably hard to see the end of the runway period... and at that speed coming up on certain death he probably choked and slammed the brakes, turned the wheel to avoid the huge drop off in front of him trying to steer anywhere but over an 85 foot drop, hit the grass with the wheel turned, the drop from the runway to the grass and the traction difference could have easily flipped the car on its side at those speeds, and at 150mph, even on its side im sure i flew like a rocket into that tree there is no drop off, and the airstrip lights up at night does this put it into perspective for you guys?
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 11:04:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: 99BlackPonyGT ^ the trees were over a drop off, he might not have seen them, also it was pitch black out, so it was probably hard to see the end of the runway period... and at that speed coming up on certain death he probably choked and slammed the brakes, turned the wheel to avoid the huge drop off in front of him trying to steer anywhere but over an 85 foot drop, hit the grass with the wheel turned, the drop from the runway to the grass and the traction difference could have easily flipped the car on its side at those speeds, and at 150mph, even on its side im sure i flew like a rocket into that tree there is no drop off, and the airstrip lights up at night Wow. I wish I had that near me. That would be fun to try and top out. This just goes to show why this happened. I bet that gets people doing high speed runs on it ALL THE TIME. Only a matter of statistics before something like this happened.
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RE: 18 year old with M5 kills himself and 5 friends... - 1/30/2008 11:15:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: T8Stanggt where travoltas pad? off to the side of the round taxiway.... he owns a boieng 707
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