A Challenge: Spring Track Day [Archive]

indisposible_teens

01-30-2008, 12:19 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

I already took out a brand new CTS-V, If you want to come down to Florida I'd be more than willing to beat a GTO! 13.2 pfffffffffffffft! We have New Edges with the same amount of mods you have that are running similar times with what 1.4 liters less of displacement, yet you have the balls or lack of knowledge to say that mustangs need power adders to be fast?

Did you know a stock S197 just ran 13.27 a few days ago? That would be a stock 4.6 running almost the same time as your modded 6.0! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

As others have said we have some sixxers that would mop the floor with the majority of GTO's! Isn't that a slap in the face ;)

lol Everyone here agreed that it was a freak occurence that you took out the CTS V and it wasn't brand new it was an 04 unless you were lying to us. The OP would take you if he could even half way drive. I don't think that you will run anywhere near a low 13 with your mods. 'Maybe' a mid-high 13, you have a Convertible with a few bolt-ons, you don't have a super fast car. You post up all of these times and cars that you have beat but you don't have any track times...:)

Jump all over me now.:D

IWHINE

01-30-2008, 12:42 PM

big talk from a overwieght grand prix

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 12:47 PM

got any LS1 GTO's coming?

I'll race em in my lincoln :D

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 12:50 PM

ORIGINAL: indisposible_teens
lol Everyone here agreed that it was a freak occurence that you took out the CTS V and it wasn't brand new it was an 04 unless you were lying to us. The OP would take you if he could even half way drive. I don't think that you will run anywhere near a low 13 with your mods. 'Maybe' a mid-high 13, you have a Convertible with a few bolt-ons, you don't have a super fast car. You post up all of these times and cars that you have beat but you don't have any track times...:)

Jump all over me now.:D

First off I never lied. Looks like your lack of comprehension is the issue. Here's the link to my thread about racing the CTS-V. Show me where I said it was a 2004 Sherlock!
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4198772/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4198772

Secondly I haven't gone to a track yet because #1 it's over 2 hours away and I don't have the time to do that now with a newborn, #2 my car grinds sometimes going into 3rd so it needs a short throw shifter, #3 my tires can no longer keep traction in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. As I said in my original thread racing the CTS-V my car's traction control went on in all three gears. So even with racing the CTS-V with traction issues I still beat him 3 out of 3 times.

I think your just being a hater because you can't beat cars that I've been able to beat.

You say I'm able to do maybe a mid 13? Are you aware that New Edges run anywhere from 13.7-14.2 stock? So your saying with all of my mods, and the fact I'm very good at driving your telling me I should be running about the same as I should be running stock? That's not even logical. You need to get a clue.

If you live anywhere near Florida I'll be more than willing to run you if you think your such a badass!

flash20

01-30-2008, 12:58 PM

too bad yall arent in texas. id race for mustangforums.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 01:02 PM

Does everyone forget that ripped camel had the CTS-V beat for the first two gears, then in third the CTS-V started to close the gap rather quickly which was at about 70 mph as illustrated in that thread?

He 'beat' the Caddy, but it was a short sprint up to 70. In a quarter mile, as even ripped camel states later on in the thread, the CTS-V would have passed him if they kept going. [&:]

IWHINE

01-30-2008, 01:05 PM

13.7 is like a one time thing i would never expect to see but in -2000 da at atco.

indisposible_teens

01-30-2008, 01:24 PM

Did I ever say I was a badass?:eek:I don't really care whether I can beat a CTS V or your GT. lol It was my bad, I thought you said it was a 2004 but I was wrong. I have a V6 so say what you want to. lol

You like toclaim thatyou can beat anything that runs a high 12 on up. You honestly think that you can beat a 400hp car in your 280hp car? lol You do have theadvantage of weight on your side but that is still not going to make a difference. Do you know what the norm is on a stock New Edge GT? I don't normally hear/see of stockNew Edge GT's going 13.7, it is more around 14.0-14.3's. You don't have a stock one but your bolt-ons aren't going to give you a half second to a full second off of your quarter times. You think that your car is a lot faster than it is. You might be a good driver, I don't know so I can't say.

BicketyBam

01-30-2008, 01:29 PM

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 01:40 PM

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

[&:]

I used to own a N/A2004 mustang GT and I've ran into alot of 5.7L cars, 1 charger,2 magnums, 3 GTO's... all of them bit the dust by a car at the very least... the only LS1 GTO I lost to was from a 40 roll and he got me by a car, and he had full LT exhaust and a FAST 90/90 swap

a new edge GT and an LS1 GTOare adrivers race

indisposible_teens

01-30-2008, 01:41 PM

That is my bad about getting OT. Sorry.

I think it would be pretty sweet to see a GTO vs. Mustang day at the track but that is way to far to drive to watch. If someone wanted to lend me their car to compete in,I would make them proud. lol

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 01:43 PM

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

[&:]

I used to own a N/A2004 mustang GT and I've ran into alot of 5.7L cars, 1 charger,2 magnums, 3 GTO's... all of them bit the dust by a car at the very least... the only LS1 GTO I lost to was from a 40 roll and he got me by a car, and he had full LT exhaust and a FAST 90/90 swap

a modded new edge GT and a stock LS1 GTOare adrivers race

Fixed. ;)

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 01:48 PM

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

[&:]

I used to own a N/A2004 mustang GT and I've ran into alot of 5.7L cars, 1 charger,2 magnums, 3 GTO's... all of them bit the dust by a car at the very least... the only LS1 GTO I lost to was from a 40 roll and he got me by a car, and he had full LT exhaust and a FAST 90/90 swap

a modded new edge GT and a stock LS1 GTOare adrivers race

Fixed. ;)

keep in mind I had an auto only pushing 245RWHP @ 280lbs tq.... so I'm 100%sure stock for stock they are a drivers race, look up the countless low-mid 14 second runs they put out

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 01:51 PM

You also had a gear (not sure which one, 4.10s?) and you ran a best of 13.89ish?

The LS1 GTOs must pull like hell though in the last 1/8th mile.

BicketyBam

01-30-2008, 01:52 PM

Mine was a convertible, which made it heavier and therefore slower than a coupe. I never raced an LS1 GTO while it was a modded N/A car, but I can't see it running more than a 13.8 or so. If that's good enough to put away an LS1 GTO then I stand corrected.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 01:55 PM

I did a little search on dragtimes (everyone's favorite site). The search was used with the model years equaling 2004 and less BTW. (http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=6&carmodel=744&data1=2004&o p1=%3C=&data2=16&op2=%3C=&search2=et&days=10000000 &stock=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=38)

Slowest newer GTO ran a 13.9, and another one with the 4 speed auto ran a 13.8. [&:]

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 02:01 PM

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

I did a little search on dragtimes (everyone's favorite site). The search was used with the model years equaling 2004 and less BTW. (http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=6&carmodel=744&data1=2004&o p1=%3C=&data2=16&op2=%3C=&search2=et&days=10000000 &stock=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=38)

Slowest newer GTO ran a 13.9, and another one with the 4 speed auto ran a 13.8. [&:]

I guess I just run into GTO's like this then

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8974834486924874293&q=LS1+GTO+1%2F4&total=5&start= 0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[&:]

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 02:05 PM

You probably didn't run GTOs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JeW_HqJp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsRC8ctLwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKJfymPpTI0&feature=related

:D

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 02:05 PM

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

Does everyone forget that ripped camel had the CTS-V beat for the first two gears, then in third the CTS-V started to close the gap rather quickly which was at about 70 mph as illustrated in that thread?

He 'beat' the Caddy, but it was a short sprint up to 70. In a quarter mile, as even ripped camel states later on in the thread, the CTS-V would have passed him if they kept going. [&:]

True but also as stated in the thread I had traction control on, and the traction control light came on in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd signifying that I lost traction in each of those gears. Had I not used traction control the outcome would've been much different, and I would've had a bigger lead.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 02:07 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

Does everyone forget that ripped camel had the CTS-V beat for the first two gears, then in third the CTS-V started to close the gap rather quickly which was at about 70 mph as illustrated in that thread?

He 'beat' the Caddy, but it was a short sprint up to 70. In a quarter mile, as even ripped camel states later on in the thread, the CTS-V would have passed him if they kept going. [&:]

True but also as stated in the thread I had traction control on, and the traction control light came on in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd signifying that I lost traction in each of those gears. Had I not used traction control the outcome would've been much different, and I would've had a bigger lead.

You barely got into third gear, so it was more of a 1-2-shut 'er down race. Who's to say the CTS-V didn't have the same issue as well?

Just don't be dissapointed if you don't run a low 13 when you do go to the track, that is all.

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 02:07 PM

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

You probably didn't run GTOs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JeW_HqJp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsRC8ctLwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKJfymPpTI0&feature=related

:D

so a cam and LT header LS1 GTO making 375RWHPdid 13.8 the first run and ran a best of 13.6 the entire night?

are you trying to prove me right? lol

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 02:09 PM

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

Yes I agree, but not to a driver that can only pull off a 13.2 with a modded 6.0. obviously the guys can't drive! I've always said the 6.0 GTO's are sick fast, and in my opinion the dealer installed SLP 6.0 GTO I drove, was faster than the coupe & ragtop C6's I drove. I don't think I can top all GTO's, or even 3/4 of them. I think I would have a good chance against someone that pulls off a 13.2 modded, when that car should be faster than that stock.

Where did I ever say I would beat all GTO's? I said I'd love him to come down and race so I can beat a GTO, meaning his!

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 02:13 PM

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

You probably didn't run GTOs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JeW_HqJp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsRC8ctLwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKJfymPpTI0&feature=related

:D

so a cam and LT header LS1 GTO making 375RWHPdid 13.8 the first run and ran a best of 13.6 the entire night?

are you trying to prove my right? lol

I don't even know anymore, I always thought from the power and weight of those LS1 GTOs that they would be more in the 13s than a stock New Edge GT. [&o]

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 02:37 PM

Some stock New Edges are in the high 13's, but that requires a real good driver.

What I don't get is this and correct me if I'm wrong. A borla exaust, BBK H pipe with high flow cats, BBK CAI, and Diablosport chip all probably net me what like an additional 30hp?

Now add my aluminum flywheel that is supposed to reduce drivetrain loss. So that means my car stock with an aluminum flywheel would put more to the wheels than a stock car with a stock flywheel. So with that said obviously my car modded will net better results than a similar GT modded without the flywheel.

After that add the fact I have BBK springs which gives a lower center of gravity, Full length subframe connectors to help with body roll, and a 3 point strut tower bar to also help with structural integrity, and my car should hook better than a stock GT.

After all of that your trying to tell me that my car that runs an average of 14.0 (averaging 13.7-14.3) in the 1/4 mile is not capable of mid to lower 13's?

Maybe working at Steeda taught me nothing, but I think your view on my car is quite skewed.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 03:09 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

Some stock New Edges are in the high 13's, but that requires a real good driver.

What I don't get is this and correct me if I'm wrong. A borla exaust, BBK H pipe with high flow cats, BBK CAI, and Diablosport chip all probably net me what like an additional 30hp?

Now add my aluminum flywheel that is supposed to reduce drivetrain loss. So that means my car stock with an aluminum flywheel would put more to the wheels than a stock car with a stock flywheel. So with that said obviously my car modded will net better results than a similar GT modded without the flywheel.

After that add the fact I have BBK springs which gives a lower center of gravity, Full length subframe connectors to help with body roll, and a 3 point strut tower bar to also help with structural integrity, and my car should hook better than a stock GT.

After all of that your trying to tell me that my car that runs an average of 14.0 (averaging 13.7-14.3) in the 1/4 mile is not capable of mid to lower 13's?

Maybe working at Steeda taught me nothing, but I think your view on my car is quite skewed.

Do you mean to tell me/us/all that are reading:D:) that another 30 hp and some springs will drop almost a full second off your ET?

How much do you think each of those mods individually add? How much do you think you put down to the wheels as of now?

What our cars run on average bone stock (yes, don't forget I have a New Edge Vert too) is closer to a mid 14...bottom line, none of this will register to you until you go to the track. When do you plan on going?

Damage Inc.

01-30-2008, 03:27 PM

Damn you guys are easy to get fired up! And your right I'm not a drag racer and my car is quicker than I can drive it. Thats not the point. If I knew my car was quicker than yours, whats the point in racing? I just want to get out and do some runs. Those times were set before headers w/ street radials @ 35psi. And the track temps where in the 40s = no traction. I have yet to make a clean pass-spin-hit the rev limiter-whatever. Like I said I suck.
See ya at the track.

Damage Inc.

01-30-2008, 03:38 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Another thread derailed:D

I owned a 2000 Mustang GT vert. While it was N/A it had a mid pipe, Magnaflow catback, Predator tune, short throw shifter, UDP's and 3.90 gears. It was far from fast. An LS1 GTO would have torn me a new one.

Yes I agree, but not to a driver that can only pull off a 13.2 with a modded 6.0. obviously the guys can't drive! I've always said the 6.0 GTO's are sick fast, and in my opinion the dealer installed SLP 6.0 GTO I drove, was faster than the coupe & ragtop C6's I drove. I don't think I can top all GTO's, or even 3/4 of them. I think I would have a good chance against someone that pulls off a 13.2 modded, when that car should be faster than that stock.

Where did I ever say I would beat all GTO's? I said I'd love him to come down and race so I can beat a GTO, meaning his!

Seems like your own guys have said it already......PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 04:10 PM

I stand corrected. It's more power than I thought.

Diablosport chip - 4.6 Liter (2V) Gas Engine: 24 horsepower and 38 ft-lb torque
http://www.waynesdyno.net/diablopage2.html

BBK CAI - This beautiful air induction system is the latest hot new product from BBK so you add approx 12 to 14 Rear Wheel Horsepower Gain.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8maccai.htm

Borla Exhaust - Can't find anything concrete. Only answers on forums. I'm guessing 8-10hp?

BBK H Pipe - Fits 1996-2004 2V Mustang Adds 8-10 hp to naturally aspirated BBK CNC Series Off-Road Race H-Pipe

Aluminum flywheel - Link has info....wrong year but same idea. http://www.americanmuscle.com/fidanza-billet-aluminum-flywheel-2005gt.html

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 04:16 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

I stand corrected. It's more power than I thought.

Diablosport chip - 4.6 Liter (2V) Gas Engine: 24 horsepower and 38 ft-lb torque
http://www.waynesdyno.net/diablopage2.html

BBK CAI - This beautiful air induction system is the latest hot new product from BBK so you add approx 12 to 14 Rear Wheel Horsepower Gain.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8maccai.htm

Borla Exhaust - Can't find anything concrete. Only answers on forums. I'm guessing 8-10hp?

BBK H Pipe - Fits 1996-2004 2V Mustang Adds 8-10 hp to naturally aspirated BBK CNC Series Off-Road Race H-Pipe

Aluminum flywheel - Link has info....wrong year but same idea. http://www.americanmuscle.com/fidanza-billet-aluminum-flywheel-2005gt.html

are you serious right now?

flash20

01-30-2008, 04:18 PM

lol at cai givng you 14 rwhp

BicketyBam

01-30-2008, 04:31 PM

Just go dyno your car and you will have a great idea of what your mods added. It's not going to be close to the 56 rwhp you have listed.

fazm

01-30-2008, 05:01 PM

thought an intake on a 2v was good for like 3-5rwhp but thats just me.

guess ill just have to pick on the local gto's

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 05:45 PM

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions
are you serious right now?

it's what the links say. The only one I claimed was the borla exhaust which I even said I'm guessing. If you have issues with the numbers take it up with the sites that posted those numbers not me. I'm just relaying links to what the gains are supposed to give you. I don't find them that far off from what I've seen on the dyno in the past.

I think it makes sense to the flywheel, which would put around 30 to the wheels with the mods. Maybe a little bit more with less drivetrain loss to the wheels.

I picked up over a half second in my 2.0 4cyl Focus with adding: Steeda intake, superchips chip, udp, cam gears, orp straight pipe, short throw shifter, poly tranny mount, and strut tower bar. I later added 4.06 gears (stock was 3.90) and a centerforce clutch then had the car dynotuned. After all that was said and done I picked up a little over a full second!

That was without exhaust, headers, heads, cams or any other major bolt ons. So are you guys telling me that my 8cyl mustang can't pick up half a second on the mods I posted, but my 2.0 4cyl focus can? Because I've got a barrage of slips to show my focus definitely did. And when I worked at Steeda I watched how much hp they gained on the dyno. My steeda short ram gave me 7FWHP. I guess the dyno lied.

At the end my car gained nearly 26FWHP with the mods listed and 25FWTQ. I've got dyno sheets for that. So again I'm not just spouting off ridiculous claims. Based on my knowledge from working at Steeda and watching the various dyno runs before and after mods, plus track runs before and after lead me to my conclusions on my car. It also coincides with the races I've had so far.

To the one thread wonder that told me to put up or shut up, I already said if you come down to Florida, I will run you! I'm not going to drive up to Maryland of all places to race you. I hate that state! I lived there 1 year, and vowed I won't go back unless absolutely necessary. The traffic is unbelievable, and it's ridden with thugs!

JD1969

01-30-2008, 05:50 PM

bluebeastsrt

01-30-2008, 06:00 PM

ORIGINAL: Damage Inc.

I also posted this Challenge to the SRT boys, and all I got was a couple kids w/srt4's. At least you guys have the b*lls to take the challenge! It looks like MIR is in the lead as far as the track of choice.
Links
http://capitolraceway.com/
http://cecilcountydragway.com/schedule.shtml
http://www.mirdrag.com/
http://www.masondixondragway.com/specials.htm
http://www.bsr-inc.com/
I'll add a poll when I get home.

Now some trash talk.
I noticed you all seem to need power adders to make your cars quick.?
And how come the V6 guys are the first to speak up?
Isn't RETRO just another word for lack of imagination?

Actually Some of 'em are nice.

"FIRE AT WILL"
Well if your gunning for SRTs I'm in! 11.88@118 and I'm not a kid. I race at Cecil once or twice a year so I'm good.:D

Grn N Gry 5OH

01-30-2008, 06:25 PM

can we get back on topic here ?? i vote Mason Dixon. thats the one in Hagerstown right ? that or MIRwould be ok. i live in NW VA. im 50min South of Winchester. i definitely want to see a GTO vs 'Stang matchup. and ive got a lot of friends who would race. including me if the new car im getting is done by then. at least with some mods on it.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 06:25 PM

LOL

OneFastEclipse, I think I found the guy you should have referenced to as far as being easy to sell to. :D[8D]

Ripped muscular camel, those gains were documented with your Focus, what about your Mustang? Don't think that just because you have more than twice the size of the motor that your gains should be the same or more.

I hope with all your work experience you realize that a gain of 26fwhp on a 130 hp motor does much more than 30 rwhp on a 260 motor. If you cannot see it, just think of the percentages of the two hp gains...keep in mind the 30 rwhp gain for your GT is with your estimation, which is quite a bit excessive than reality.

Looking at your last 100 posts, you haven't really been to the 4.6 Tech section. I'd recommend going there and just doing a couple searches, hopefully it will wake you up.

bluebeastsrt

01-30-2008, 06:40 PM

ORIGINAL: JD1969

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

I stand corrected. It's more power than I thought.

Diablosport chip - 4.6 Liter (2V) Gas Engine: 24 horsepower and 38 ft-lb torque
http://www.waynesdyno.net/diablopage2.html

BBK CAI - This beautiful air induction system is the latest hot new product from BBK so you add approx 12 to 14 Rear Wheel Horsepower Gain.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8maccai.htm

Borla Exhaust - Can't find anything concrete. Only answers on forums. I'm guessing 8-10hp?

BBK H Pipe - Fits 1996-2004 2V Mustang Adds 8-10 hp to naturally aspirated BBK CNC Series Off-Road Race H-Pipe

Aluminum flywheel - Link has info....wrong year but same idea. http://www.americanmuscle.com/fidanza-billet-aluminum-flywheel-2005gt.html

Apparently working has not taught you much if you actually beleive those claims. You just lost a ton of credibilty in my book. Once you have some timeslips I'll give you back some cred. The fact remains that a 2V 4.6 will not respnd to mods like that, the heads just don't flow well enough.
X2 time slips are your friend. Unless your Iwhine.[:@] JK.:D

fazm

01-30-2008, 06:48 PM

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrn

72MachOne99GT

01-30-2008, 07:17 PM

I hate jumping into threads midway through, but it seems like Damage Inc. will have like 2 competitors.

The rest of the Mustang guys will be busy putting down the obsurd claims of Ripped Camel..

come on man, I don't know you at all, and apparently you spend little to no time in 4.6 tech.

Your car, a New Edge Vert with a chip, intake, partial exhaust, and flywheel is not going to make more than 250 hp MAX. At the strip, I'd give you a 13.9.

People who don't have timeslips run their mouth because they have no idea how difficult it is to really launch a car. I used to think I could run 13.6's easy. I've been 4 times and only running 13.8's, that down from a 14.5 first time out.

To Damage Inc. I know what it's like to run times worse than stock with mods. It's not like it's a rare thing. Everyone has to practice before they get good. End of story.

I'd expect a LS2 GTO to rape 80% of the new edge stangs on the road though. Think about it guys, low low 13's stock, and it takes a new edge full bolts on/suspension to run those times, or F/I...and most guys don't go F/I

Stone629

01-30-2008, 07:26 PM

If you guys decide on Maryland, I maybe feeling froggy that day and take a little road trip to put some wheel hopping GTOs in their place[8D]...or get put in my place. Sounds like alot of fun.

For the guys talking about the ls1 GTOs, my A4 ran a best of 13.7 at 105 mph, bone stock of course. I was let down bt the stock performance of theAuto trans.Every mod I did knocked off a tenth or more. Once I had LTs, DRs, CAI, and a dyno tune, I put down 340rwhp/350rwtq and ran 12.85 at 109. I was called a liar on LS1Tech for claiming a 1 second gain with bolt-ons, tires and tune, but it happened. Driver mod may have helped too. I don't think a stock 5spd New Edge and a 6spd Ls1 GTO are a close match at all. Stock6spd GTOs runthe same ETs asstock 5spd Mach 1s. An A4 GTOwill edge out a New Edge GT 9 out of 10 times in the 1/8th and all of the time in the 1/4.

joshafmil

01-30-2008, 08:36 PM

im up for going... i could prolly bring a few friends with some evil toys[sm=badbadbad.gif]

me on the other hand... im not expecting to win, but im sure it would be fun.

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 09:22 PM

nmerrill

01-30-2008, 09:24 PM

ORIGINAL: 1SLO85

Come down South, we have lots of slow Puffstangs.

I second that idea.

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 09:45 PM

JD1969

01-30-2008, 09:49 PM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

ORIGINAL: JD1969

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

I stand corrected. It's more power than I thought.

Diablosport chip - 4.6 Liter (2V) Gas Engine: 24 horsepower and 38 ft-lb torque
http://www.waynesdyno.net/diablopage2.html

BBK CAI - This beautiful air induction system is the latest hot new product from BBK so you add approx 12 to 14 Rear Wheel Horsepower Gain.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8maccai.htm

Borla Exhaust - Can't find anything concrete. Only answers on forums. I'm guessing 8-10hp?

BBK H Pipe - Fits 1996-2004 2V Mustang Adds 8-10 hp to naturally aspirated BBK CNC Series Off-Road Race H-Pipe

Aluminum flywheel - Link has info....wrong year but same idea. http://www.americanmuscle.com/fidanza-billet-aluminum-flywheel-2005gt.html

Apparently working has not taught you much if you actually beleive those claims. You just lost a ton of credibilty in my book. Once you have some timeslips I'll give you back some cred. The fact remains that a 2V 4.6 will not respnd to mods like that, the heads just don't flow well enough.

BUT A FOCUS WILL??!!

There is a differance in power/weight. You really, honestly think a CAI, cat back and the other light mods you listed will actually give you a 50+ hp gain? Do you think a K&N filter gives 20 hp? I am not trying to be a jerk, but you should realize you talking to a person who has built race cars for a living and that includes several NMRA cars. I also race in several classes and opporate a dyno a local shop. I say all this not to try and impress you, but only to let you know I have actual real world experiance in this stuff (and the timslips to back up what I say).

LS1_Killer

01-30-2008, 09:56 PM

im in to play with the GTO boys... even if i cant finish my car in time im sure my brother will bring his car down and play... Damage Inc. whats the fastest one of you guys GTO's run??? just out curiousity not trying to say anything stupid just asking an honest question

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 10:26 PM

ORIGINAL: JD1969
There is a differance in power/weight. You really, honestly think a CAI, cat back and the other light mods you listed will actually give you a 50+ hp gain? Do you think a K&N filter gives 20 hp? I am not trying to be a jerk, but you should realize you talking to a person who has built race cars for a living and that includes several NMRA cars. I also race in several classes and opporate a dyno a local shop. I say all this not to try and impress you, but only to let you know I have actual real world experiance in this stuff (and the timslips to back up what I say).

Well you do have a background, and I bet you know much more than I do about alot of things. But that doesn't mean I have zero knowledge about mods and how they benefit a car hp/tq wise.

You say you have actual real world experience......So my time working at Steeda monitoring dyno runs before and after mods to write articles for their magazine isn't considered real world experience?

No a K&N filter will not give you 20hp. It will give you 2hp for a drop in....if that! A cai will net around 7-8hp to the wheels on most cars, more on others. It all depends on what other mods you have in combination. You can't slap a CAI on and expect the full hp claimed.

I also know something alot of members on here overlook is suspension. Suspension is a huge part of putting power to the ground. The stiffer the suspension, the better you'll grip and go. Alot of these guys that are nothing but followers spout off at the mouth only because they saw others also call me out. They don't really have any constructive addition to the debate. They just glorify others opinions with nothing to add. The seem to discredit the fact that full length subframe connectors, a 3 point strut bar, and bbk springs will do for a launch. Sure it won't gain .3 but it might gain me .1! It's all in the driver and his ability to utilize his setup.

Then you have the guys that know nothing of transmissions and completely dismiss the aluminum flywheel and what it's added benefits are. You'll see these haters posting things like "he thinks he'll gain a half second with his aluminum flywheel". It's unbelievable how clueless people are. No I don't think it will give me a half second in the 1/4. But I do KNOW it will provide less drivetrain loss which gives me more power to the wheels. That in combination with my other mods magnifys the gains I would normally make from those mods. (This is where logic comes in for the uninitiated).

In all reality I do believe with the mods and flywheel I gained about 30RWHP. I don't see how that is so unbelievable. I've seen cobra's pick up 50+RWHP with just a cat back and diablosport. 30RWHP with more mods on my car is very believable.

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 10:27 PM

ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
What the **** does that have to do with JD's statement?

In your own words in a previous thread "Comprehension is your friend 99GTvert" ;)

99GTvert

01-30-2008, 11:05 PM

You keep dodging my question, when are you going to the track?

JD1969

01-30-2008, 11:05 PM

Untill you show me dyno and or track proof I do not believe your claims. No other 4.6 owner is going to back up your claims, that should tell you somthing.

Morbid Intentions

01-30-2008, 11:35 PM

my automatic 2004 mustang GT had a few mods

-CAI
-O/R prochamber
-shorty headers
-catback
-75mm TB & plenum
-4.10's
-dyno tune

by your numbers that would mean my mustang dynoed 180-190RWHP stock :eek:

IWHINE

01-30-2008, 11:38 PM

ORIGINAL: bluebeastsrt

ORIGINAL: JD1969

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

I stand corrected. It's more power than I thought.

Diablosport chip - 4.6 Liter (2V) Gas Engine: 24 horsepower and 38 ft-lb torque
http://www.waynesdyno.net/diablopage2.html

BBK CAI - This beautiful air induction system is the latest hot new product from BBK so you add approx 12 to 14 Rear Wheel Horsepower Gain.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8maccai.htm

Borla Exhaust - Can't find anything concrete. Only answers on forums. I'm guessing 8-10hp?

BBK H Pipe - Fits 1996-2004 2V Mustang Adds 8-10 hp to naturally aspirated BBK CNC Series Off-Road Race H-Pipe

Aluminum flywheel - Link has info....wrong year but same idea. http://www.americanmuscle.com/fidanza-billet-aluminum-flywheel-2005gt.html

Apparently working has not taught you much if you actually beleive those claims. You just lost a ton of credibilty in my book. Once you have some timeslips I'll give you back some cred. The fact remains that a 2V 4.6 will not respnd to mods like that, the heads just don't flow well enough.
X2 time slips are your friend. Unless your Iwhine.[:@] JK.:D

hahah so true... so sad[:o]

i will redeem myself later this year though

IWHINE

01-30-2008, 11:41 PM

About all this new edge= ls1 gto, you guys are dead wrong. Sorry raced them both and ls1 gto is clearly faster with out a doubt. There are such thins as ****ty drivers thats all, the car is tough to launch from what i hear irs is a bitch.

Show me one new edge gt that has trapped 107 stock and then i may believe it

ripped camel

01-30-2008, 11:50 PM

I never said my new edge would beat all GTO's. I never even said it would beat two GTO's. I just said I would race him and beat his!

I've said it a few times in the last few threads. I plan on going not to the track not to far in the distant future. Right now the economy isn't exactly hot, and my construction business I own isn't exactly making money by the boatloads anymore. Actually it's bringing in ZERO dollars! So right now I can't afford to get the transmission leak fixed, and I also can't afford to get the short throw shifter to eliminate my 3rd gear grind when driving her hard. So until some work comes my way, unfortunately for me I don't get to have my fun. Family expenses come before mods and racing.

I've got 50 slips to prove I've raced with my other cars. I love drag racing, and am a huge fan of the track, so you better believe first chance I get I'm going to the track! I can't wait to see what this beast does.

I'm betting first night out I'll get a mid 13 until I get used to her. Then the lower 13's will come.

IWHINE

01-30-2008, 11:59 PM

i was more generalizing becuase that was the agreement it seemed like some people were trying to make. when facts are ls1 gto's have went bottom 13's stock as in 13.1~13.2 at 105, and i have never heard of a stock new edge coming anywhere near that. Given eqaul drivers the gto will win everytime hands down.

Sad thing to is im not a gto fan boy i actually don't like them or the people who drive them becuase the ones i have met were all pricks

stangracer04

01-30-2008, 11:59 PM

I wouldnt mind beating a GTO.....with a bat:D. They are heavy ugly and over rated. Sry if I hurt someones feelings but lets face it.

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:05 AM

i think they are in need of a diet too, if they lost 400 pounds they would be a sick ass car (05 and 06 gtos).

Stone629

01-31-2008, 12:18 AM

They weigh about the same as a S-197. Looks are subjective.

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:20 AM

s197 are 3700+?

NYstang

01-31-2008, 12:26 AM

Im going to guess this guy is from LS2 GTO.....in which case maybe i should post the broken shifter!

depending on where, maybe Ill bring my slow car and watch...

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:29 AM

yeah he is, what is this about a broken shifter though?

NYstang

01-31-2008, 12:34 AM

i cant find the thread there...

i wonder if he remembers this thead from their lounge-
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g283/rustyrodder/motivator3984245.jpg

72MachOne99GT

01-31-2008, 12:34 AM

I still have a difficult finding the 13.1-13.2 time for a LS1 Goat realistic.

How much more than a LS1 F-body do they weigh? Add in the IRS hindering a launch, and tell me how they run almost .2 off the best ever time recorded for a LS1 F-body?

One would think the best time ever for a LS2 GTO should be somewhere in the 12.6-12.7 range right?

As for Ripped Camel. Your car, with all your 30 hp in mods and suspension, on street tires, is NOT going to go mid 13's the first night out, and certainly not low 13's with practice.

Slips ever turn up, I'll refute my statements.

Stone629

01-31-2008, 12:34 AM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

s197 are 3700+?

Negative. I just did a bit of searching and found outS-197s weigh about 3500 empty. GTOs are at 3725. So there's a weight difference. I had 175lb difference in my head for some reason, but I guess it's more like 225.

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:36 AM

nope its on ls1gto.com in their strip section its a list. The best is like 12.8 for ls2 and 13.17 for a ls1.

They weigh 300 or 350 more i believe.

A few stock ls1's have done 12.8 also

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:37 AM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

s197 are 3700+?

Negative. I just did a bit of searching and found outS-197s weigh about 3500 empty. GTOs are at 3725. So there's a weight difference. I had 175lb difference in my head for some reason, but I guess it's more like 225.

i thought s197's were lighter than that? learn something new everday i guess

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:38 AM

ORIGINAL: NYstang

i cant find the thread there...

i wonder if he remembers this thead from their lounge-
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g283/rustyrodder/motivator3984245.jpg

that is great

Stone629

01-31-2008, 12:42 AM

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

I still have a difficult finding the 13.1-13.2 time for a LS1 Goat realistic.

How much more than a LS1 F-body do they weigh? Add in the IRS hindering a launch, and tell me how they run almost .2 off the best ever time recorded for a LS1 F-body?

One would think the best time ever for a LS2 GTO should be somewhere in the 12.6-12.7 range right?

As for Ripped Camel. Your car, with all your 30 hp in mods and suspension, on street tires, is NOT going to go mid 13's the first night out, and certainly not low 13's with practice.

Slips ever turn up, I'll refute my statements.

Like I said earlier, I only got a 13.7 out my stock 2004 A4 GTO, but the trap speed wasdecent at 105. The 2004 M6 GTOs are good for mid 13s stock. With tires the are alot better, but although DRs kept mine from smoking the tires, they also induced bad wheel-hop. IRS sucks for drag racing, period. They weigh in at about 3725lbs, so they are pretty solid. LS2s are in the 12s stock with DRs, but tires are a mod IMO, meaning no longer stock. I have seen numerous LS2s at the track getting 13.0s on street tires, but NEVER consistently. It takes a persistent and patient driver witha GTO.

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:45 AM

stock as a rock is the only way those cars get on the list, only a few have done it from what i have seen. If you bring drag radials into it there was a vid of a stock ls1 ss camaro going 12.60 @ 109 on stock motor and m/t drag radials.

Stone629

01-31-2008, 12:46 AM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

ORIGINAL: Stone629

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

s197 are 3700+?

Negative. I just did a bit of searching and found outS-197s weigh about 3500 empty. GTOs are at 3725. So there's a weight difference. I had 175lb difference in my head for some reason, but I guess it's more like 225.

i thought s197's were lighter than that? learn something new everday i guess

Don't hold me to it. I Googled it and3450 and3500 popped a few times. Ford's site didn't even list any curb weight.

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 12:50 AM

i thought i heard 3400 from a few guys around here

BicketyBam

01-31-2008, 11:46 AM

Hey Camel - get some gears for that thing. Best N/A mod for your buck and should be one of the first mods done to a New Edge GT. Please don't mention gas mileage as an excuse either:)

You're smoking crack if you think you can get your car into the low 13's as it sits now. I don't care who is driving it. Maybe 13.5 on a downhill track :D

ripped camel

01-31-2008, 02:02 PM

ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

Hey Camel - get some gears for that thing. Best N/A mod for your buck and should be one of the first mods done to a New Edge GT. Please don't mention gas mileage as an excuse either:)

You're smoking crack if you think you can get your car into the low 13's as it sits now. I don't care who is driving it. Maybe 13.5 on a downhill track :D

Yeah I want 4.30's. As soon as the market picks back up I'll be getting a set. Being in the construction industry isn't exactly profitable right now. Lets just say I used to make more in a month than I made a few years before in a year. Now I don't make even $1. So I'm not exactly willing to dump any money into mods at this time. But it's making me sick waiting to run the car, and mod it!

ripped camel

01-31-2008, 02:03 PM

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

Slips ever turn up, I'll refute my statements.

DEAL! I'll even get video's with my slips.

buster

01-31-2008, 02:20 PM

sorry, sounds like fun , but 12 hrs is a bit far

Damage Inc.

01-31-2008, 07:03 PM

Sorry it took so long for me to get back in here, family matters..........

Anyway Rinkled cameltoe are you serious.. there is just so much B/S with your posts I wouldn't know where to start. Again PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Go to the track, get a time slip. The CAI thing has been beat to death so I'm not gonna comment on a 10-15hp gain. I doubt Ford did such a crap job of designing the factory setup that they left that much on the table.Where in FLA are you I've got family down that way so you may just get that run.As far as my testicular gerth, it's really none of your business, but they are big. And my knowledge of how your car will respond to minor mods you may have me there, but I don't care!

GTO-CAI = little to no gain I'll say 5hp tops; cat back = about the same 5-10hp tops; Pred tune = 20-28, the only noticable ass dyno gain, thats what was on the car for the 13.2. Was I happy with that, am I proud of it, hell no. It is what it is though I have yet to get this tire spinning wheel shaking f'r down the track. Anyway out of time I'll respond more tomorrow.

1SLO85

01-31-2008, 07:11 PM

so much anger here. Let's just get along with our American brethren and take out our rage in ricers.

Stone629

01-31-2008, 08:21 PM

I feel your pain Damage, I too have had a GTO and the traction/wheel hop is a problem. People don't realize how hard it is to plant a 3700lb car with 400hp/tqand IRS on 245 width tires. No need to get worked up on this forum, lots of misinformation floating aroung just like any other site. We're still all friends here and most of us are just enthusiast and appreciate all cars for what they are.

explict

01-31-2008, 08:51 PM

How about Edmonton Alberta Canada?
I'll be there.

ripped camel

01-31-2008, 09:24 PM

ORIGINAL: Damage Inc.

Sorry it took so long for me to get back in here, family matters..........

Anyway Rinkled cameltoe are you serious.. there is just so much B/S with your posts I wouldn't know where to start. Again PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Go to the track, get a time slip. The CAI thing has been beat to death so I'm not gonna comment on a 10-15hp gain. I doubt Ford did such a crap job of designing the factory setup that they left that much on the table.Where in FLA are you I've got family down that way so you may just get that run.As far as my testicular gerth, it's really none of your business, but they are big. And my knowledge of how your car will respond to minor mods you may have me there, but I don't care!

GTO-CAI = little to no gain I'll say 5hp tops; cat back = about the same 5-10hp tops; Pred tune = 20-28, the only noticable ass dyno gain, thats what was on the car for the 13.2. Was I happy with that, am I proud of it, hell no. It is what it is though I have yet to get this tire spinning wheel shaking f'r down the track. Anyway out of time I'll respond more tomorrow.

Ok tough guy. Damage Inc? Real f'n original. Your such a cool guy you need to steal the title from a Metallica song for your sn. Did the sn come with a mullet? Rinkled cameltoe? Way to spell captain grammar! Maybe if your going to try and be a toughguy and rip on people, you should learn how to spell first!

You say Put up or shut up.....I think I've said a barrage of times now that I would run you anytime if you come down here. So being that your the loudmouth that came on this site to be a hardass, why don't you put up or shut up. I live in Tampa. Anytime your in the area I'll be more than willing to race you!

I think I've explained why I haven't ran my car at the track yet. Apparently you have problems with comprehension. If you think I'm going to go out and blow money on racing when the economy is down, and I'm bringing zero dollars in your smoking a pretty hefty crack pipe! I could care less what your opinion of me is.

Who's the dumbass that can't even run modded, what a stock 6.0 GTO runs? Sure I don't have slips for my mustang yet, but I sure as hell do have slips from when I dragged my truck. I'd be more than willing to match my slips to yours to see who the better driver is. Can you beat a 0.00 RT? I'm betting not with your 13.2 run. So until you can learn to drag, you don't need to put up, you need to SHUT UP!

IWHINE

01-31-2008, 10:31 PM

rt doesn't figure into a 1/4 mile run

fiad06

01-31-2008, 10:42 PM

Hes implying hes a good driver.

SubTexel

01-31-2008, 10:47 PM

Hrmm lol, same post up on the Dodge forums...

Stone629

01-31-2008, 10:48 PM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

rt doesn't figure into a 1/4 mile run

Red light

Stone629

01-31-2008, 10:51 PM

ORIGINAL: SubTexel

Hrmm lol, same post up on the Dodge forums...

Intresting, so I guess we're supposed to have a Pontiac/Ford/Mopar showdown then. Something tells me this, "get-together" isn't going to materialize.:eek:

SubTexel

01-31-2008, 10:59 PM

Doubtful, he's posting under the same name on the Charger forums and such. (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65212&highlight=Spring+Challenge) I flip around a lot of forums and I thought the thread title looked familiar lol.

ripped camel

01-31-2008, 11:20 PM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

rt doesn't figure into a 1/4 mile run

Red light

Are we starting this again? At Bradenton that is not a red light! Guess what happens when you red light.........THE RED LIGHT GOES OFF! No red light at all for me! Your just jealous you can't pull off that time! You remind me of one of those guys that say "Size doesn't matter" because they're jealous of guys that have big dicks! Quit hatin!

NYstang

01-31-2008, 11:33 PM

when you red light, the red light goes ON

and the punctuation of the day is '!'. thats right kids, '!'

Stone629

01-31-2008, 11:56 PM

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...

Stone629

02-01-2008, 12:04 AM

http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html

IWHINE

02-01-2008, 01:10 AM

same post on the cobalt forums to lol. ripped come race me you should be faster i only ran a 14.3

Damage Inc.

02-01-2008, 01:37 AM

No. No anger,just frustration, I get tired of "my car runs 12s..........well maybe 13s." kind of posers. As far as everyone else No problems at all.

fiad06

02-01-2008, 01:40 AM

It would probably come down to the Fbodys and Mustangs that would have the fastest cars... They are more common to find them stupid fast, compared to a GTO or a Cobalt.

IWHINE

02-01-2008, 02:25 AM

there is no such thing as a fast cobalt

fiad06

02-01-2008, 02:30 AM

Not many stupid fast Cobalts[&:]

Sleeper05

02-01-2008, 04:29 AM

How about on the West Coast. I would gladly plan, host, and hold the event if we had he interest. (By I, I mean my company, that is).

Damage Inc.

02-01-2008, 07:20 AM

ORIGINAL: ripped camel

ORIGINAL: Damage Inc.

Sorry it took so long for me to get back in here, family matters..........

Anyway Rinkled cameltoe are you serious.. there is just so much B/S with your posts I wouldn't know where to start. Again PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Go to the track, get a time slip. The CAI thing has been beat to death so I'm not gonna comment on a 10-15hp gain. I doubt Ford did such a crap job of designing the factory setup that they left that much on the table.Where in FLA are you I've got family down that way so you may just get that run.As far as my testicular gerth, it's really none of your business, but they are big. And my knowledge of how your car will respond to minor mods you may have me there, but I don't care!

GTO-CAI = little to no gain I'll say 5hp tops; cat back = about the same 5-10hp tops; Pred tune = 20-28, the only noticable ass dyno gain, thats what was on the car for the 13.2. Was I happy with that, am I proud of it, hell no. It is what it is though I have yet to get this tire spinning wheel shaking f'r down the track. Anyway out of time I'll respond more tomorrow.

Ok tough guy. Damage Inc? Real f'n original. Your such a cool guy you need to steal the title from a Metallica song for your sn. Did the sn come with a mullet? Rinkled cameltoe? Way to spell captain grammar! Maybe if your going to try and be a toughguy and rip on people, you should learn how to spell first!

You say Put up or shut up.....I think I've said a barrage of times now that I would run you anytime if you come down here. So being that your the loudmouth that came on this site to be a hardass, why don't you put up or shut up. I live in Tampa. Anytime your in the area I'll be more than willing to race you!

I think I've explained why I haven't ran my car at the track yet. Apparently you have problems with comprehension. If you think I'm going to go out and blow money on racing when the economy is down, and I'm bringing zero dollars in your smoking a pretty hefty crack pipe! I could care less what your opinion of me is.

Who's the dumbass that can't even run modded, what a stock 6.0 GTO runs? Sure I don't have slips for my mustang yet, but I sure as hell do have slips from when I dragged my truck. I'd be more than willing to match my slips to yours to see who the better driver is. Can you beat a 0.00 RT? I'm betting not with your 13.2 run. So until you can learn to drag, you don't need to put up, you need to SHUT UP!

Ok, OK. Yes, I failed 10th grade english Mr. WRipped C. and I'm sorry your not making any cash no , I got it (yes, I spelled it rong on porpose).I doubt that I ill ever make it down to Tampa ith the car; drive=14-16hr; fly=2-3hrs, just doesn't make sense. Any ay get it to the track hen you can and post your no.s.I'll check back from time to time and see ho you did. Sorry if my sarcasm as taken personally, just me, being me. Besides I didn't come on your forum to pick a fight, Oh ait yeah I did! NOWwwwwwwww I'm done.

Back to the matter at hand.

Yes, I have posted this challenge to the SRT boys also, The most productive thread is on chargerforumz.com. Just go to members and look forthe thread by Damage., others are out there tooby Damage Inc.(it's all me)

Yes I'm from ls1gto.com

It looks like we have about 13 GTOs and 7-8 Mopars for MIR on 03/08. I have to get in touch with the track office and make sure thet don't have any issues with this thing. But it seems a go at this point.

So come on out have some fun, bring the family, and waste some of our nations resourses.

For me thats what it's all about, win or lose.

I posted my times not to impress, but to be honest. Thats what I ran with the mods I had.
And yes these cars are difficult to get traction without DRs or suspension mods. I haveneither.
But now it just sound like I'm making excuses for my poor driving skills.

Hope to see you at the track!

PS: I promise to keep it down, we don't want the mods to shut us down.

JD1969

02-01-2008, 07:49 AM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...
A 000 light is perfect on the newer trees with the LED bulbs, he is correct.

So Camel, you pulled a perfect light how many times? I can promise you that it was not all driver skill, but a great deal of luck when you did that. If you really want to brag about how great of a driver you are you would be talking about your AVERAGE reation time, not one fluke perfect light.

Damage Inc.

02-01-2008, 08:00 AM

ORIGINAL: JD1969

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...
A 000 light is perfect on the newer trees with the LED bulbs, he is correct.

So Camel, you pulled a perfect light how many times? I can promise you that it was not all driver skill, but a great deal of luck when you did that. If you really want to brag about how great of a driver you are you would be talking about your AVERAGE reation time, not one fluke perfect light.

Not to be a D, but can we be done with him now and get back on topic.
I'd add a poll for tracks but I don't see that option in this forum. So if you want to:http://ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217340

MrRogers

02-01-2008, 08:09 AM

My God, what have missed...

I should have clicked earlier..5-6pgs means that there is either some really good information being shared or there is some really good sh** talking going on...

[sm=drooldude.gif]

Buckman

02-01-2008, 10:52 AM

Depending on the date this is scheduled I would be interested in this event. I am usually in the Philly area a couple times a year.
I raced quite a few goats this past year, always fun to line up with them, good times!

indisposible_teens

02-01-2008, 01:48 PM

ORIGINAL: MrRogers

My God, what have missed...

I should have clicked earlier..5-6pgs means that there is either some really good information being shared or there is some really good sh** talking going on...

[sm=drooldude.gif]

A lot of **** talking. lol People keep wandering how Ripped thinks that he can pull a low 13 with his mods in his Vert...:eek:lol

Stone629

02-01-2008, 01:57 PM

ORIGINAL: JD1969

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...
A 000 light is perfect on the newer trees with the LED bulbs, he is correct.

So Camel, you pulled a perfect light how many times? I can promise you that it was not all driver skill, but a great deal of luck when you did that. If you really want to brag about how great of a driver you are you would be talking about your AVERAGE reation time, not one fluke perfect light.

I guess I'll go stand in the corner then. My apologizes goes out to Ripped if he in fact has one of these newer trees at his track. I've never heard of such, but I will do some research and bring myself up to date.

72MachOne99GT

02-01-2008, 02:13 PM

No need to apologize guys, just keep it civil.

It's unlikely a meet like this will happen. Hell, even if it did, there'd be butthurt feelings all over the place.. :D

I'm willing to race my Saturn against some Cobalts...the N/A 4 door ones

indisposible_teens

02-01-2008, 02:15 PM

lol about the saturn and 4 door cobalts.

Damage Inc.

02-01-2008, 04:56 PM

ORIGINAL: indisposible_teens

lol about the saturn and 4 door cobalts.

I'll run Saturn to Saturn. Wifes got a Vue what you got?

Damage Inc.

02-01-2008, 05:10 PM

Poll added

Damage Inc.

02-02-2008, 06:25 PM

Are you serious 3votes, thats it. I got 15-20 GTOs ready go at MIR on 03/08. More possible. I can't believe all the trash talk BS and nobody's actually willing to show, how pathetic. The Dodge boys are going to show! Whats your excuse?

scubasteve22

02-02-2008, 06:35 PM

sorry that 50 memebers dont live near MD or want to drive hours for one race..i live about 15 min from mason dixon so that would be ideal but still commin to MIR if its goin on there... and like said before with ur mods and ur times there is def not an exciting reason to come watch u race..if u really want u can pay for my gas to get there and ill def come and bring a few cars that might show u up a little;)..and considering u just added the poll it seems then relax. there is time

IWHINE

02-02-2008, 06:44 PM

no one cares about the meet to be honest

AmericanSpeed

02-02-2008, 10:42 PM

Damage, I'd love to do this if I was any where near those tracks. Having close races is way more fun than blow outs. Plus, I think i can make you guys respect the S197s ability to quarter. Come to Florida!!! ( I think it's pretty cool that you came here talking smack, everyone should have that kind of respect for there car, any car enthusiast will respect an awesome ride)

1SLO85

02-02-2008, 11:36 PM

Come to Texas...you will have BIG turn out. Remember, everything's bigger in Texas.LOL

The Stig

02-02-2008, 11:39 PM

I would really love to go. As long as somone is willing to pay for the gasoline for the trip up there & back, and the depreication the extra miles added to my car:D

banka87

02-03-2008, 12:13 AM

ORIGINAL: Damage Inc.

ORIGINAL: indisposible_teens

lol about the saturn and 4 door cobalts.

I'll run Saturn to Saturn. Wifes got a Vue what you got?

Pfff...I'll take my sister's 97 Pathfinder down there and smoke you [8D]

Damage Inc.

02-03-2008, 06:29 AM

I'm done with the smack talk. The pathetic thing may have been a little dicky. I know my posted times suck move on. All I'm saying is it seems like this could be a big event. It's not like there isn't a sh*t load of fast 'stangs out there. As far as respect for your cars, I never said I didn't respect them. I just trash talked a little to get youguysfired up and it seemed to work. To be honest I was beaten, to the line, by a bone stock s19whatever you all call the '07s. Did I cry and run home. No, I shook the mans hand I congradulated him. I'm, not a DRAG racer and before I got this car I've only been to the track a handful of times. I don't street race, I have to much to lose. I don't want to come across like a pu**y, I'm not, I don't care what you have I'll run it, I know what my car is capable of. The only thing I need is more seat time. I'm out there to have fun and meet some car guys.

I know it aint no race truck but I thinkthe Vuehasthe Pathfinder covered.
Vue= 250hp/242tq @ 3260
Path= 168hp/196tq @ 3675

Grn N Gry 5OH

02-03-2008, 07:26 AM

do you have an exact date set yet ? like i said, im @ 1.5hrs from Hagerstown and im sure i could talk some people into coming up. my problem is i dont have a truck/trailer in case i break something. thats the only thing im worried about. haha. but hell, id drive to watch either way. all drag racing is good......except for 2 17-sec Honda's racing. haha

Damage Inc.

02-03-2008, 08:23 AM

It looks like most are leaning towards MIR with Mas/Dix running second. I've contacted MIR and they are cool with it for 03/08. If we get over 50-60 cars they said to check back, I think we're OK. The 8th is a Sat. test and tune, but on Sun. they have brackets so they probably have a decent crowd getting their dail ins. Looks like it's $30 to run $10 to watch.

http://www.mirdrag.com/

scubasteve22

02-03-2008, 12:04 PM

well just keep us posted on updated info and im sure more people than have voted so far will come up but should def be a fun event.. even though all the smack talk lol thanks for commin to the forum and lettin us (or at least me) know about it!

Damage Inc.

02-03-2008, 04:11 PM

^Will do.^

Grn N Gry 5OH

02-03-2008, 04:45 PM

i agree with scuba. at least keep him and i informed. id love to come to it.

Damage Inc.

02-03-2008, 07:11 PM

I'll keep checking back in, and post up with more info when the polls close. As I said this challenge is on alot of forums, I think all the polls close around 02/10. I've talked to MIR,they seem to be winning the polls, and everything is a go for 03/08. Also there my be something going on at Mason Dixon on 03/22.

IWHINE

02-03-2008, 07:36 PM

what do you think you will run, going on drag radials this time

bluebeastsrt

02-03-2008, 11:15 PM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

what do you think you will run, going on drag radials this time
Thank goodness:DIt pains me to see a guy with a high 12, low 13 second car run high 14's.

IWHINE

02-03-2008, 11:18 PM

pains you, your not the one who cries your self to sleep[X(][X(][X(]

bluebeastsrt

02-03-2008, 11:22 PM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

pains you, your not the one who cries your self to sleep[X(][X(][X(]
Much better times are ahead my man. Tires are a drag racers best friend.

IWHINE

02-03-2008, 11:41 PM

yeah so is meth, a new intake, 3" catback, ported blower, ported tb, and ported head. muhahahha. Im hoping for 12.5's at 114, and around 330 whp

Gene K

02-04-2008, 12:13 AM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

They weigh about the same as a S-197. Looks are subjective.

2007 Mustang GT Deluxe Curb Weight 3480 lb (3475 lb with spoiler delete).
2004 Mustang Mach 1 Curb Weight 3465 lb
So we are 15 lb heavier than you.

I didnt know Mach 1's were as heavy as GTO's.

BTW my car weighed 3420 lb with 5 gal of fuel on a CAT scale.
MSO Shipping Weight (Dry) was 3353 lb.

Gene K

02-04-2008, 12:30 AM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...

First of all its 0.500. And second of all some tracks start the reaction timer with the green light (0.000 being perfect).
Others start it with the last yellow in which case 0.500 is a perfect light.

The tracks I currently run all use 0.000. (Although one went from 0.000 to 0.500 and back to 0.000.)
Any redlight is listed as a minus number like the -0.002 I cut today.

Also 0.500 only applys to the Full or Sportsmen Tree. A perfect light on a Protree is 0.400.

IWHINE

02-04-2008, 12:31 AM

damn pwned

Stone629

02-04-2008, 08:25 AM

ORIGINAL: Gene K

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...

First of all its 0.500. And second of all some tracks start the reaction timer with the green light (0.000 being perfect).
Others start it with the last yellow in which case 0.500 is a perfect light.

The tracks I currently run all use 0.000. (Although one went from 0.000 to 0.500 and back to 0.000.)
Any redlight is listed as a minus number like the -0.002 I cut today.

Also 0.500 only applys to the Full or Sportsmen Tree. A perfect light on a Protree is 0.400.

Take it easy there thunder! I was already informed about some tracks running a 0.000 as a perfect RT and I politely accepted the correction. Secondly, I do run on a full tree and I'm also aware of the 0.400 RT of the Pro Tree. That's why I posted the link instead of going into detail like you are. Thirdly, explain the difference between .5,0.5, 0.50, 0.500, 0.5000, or 1/2 seconds. You know what I was saying with the .50, no need to be a wise ass.

As far the weight of the GTO vs S197, why don't you read the entire conversation I had with Iwhine, beforeposting smart comments like, "I didn't know Machs weighed as much as GTOs." I posted what I believed the weight of a S-197 to be, and was pretty damn close with my 3450lb estimate. I also clearly stated the GTO weighs 3700lbs. I also stated that these weight measurements were found via google, and I said "Don't hold me to it". The GTO weighs 3700lbs, the S-197 weighs 3400lbs, it's been established,big deal, so what's the point you're trying to make other than letting me know you are fully capable of being a ....?

Stone629

02-04-2008, 08:42 AM

ORIGINAL: IWHINE

damn pwned

By repeating everything I've already said?:eek:

IWHINE

02-04-2008, 10:29 AM

exactly[8D]

indisposible_teens

02-04-2008, 01:26 PM

I will bring my 95 Dodge Caravan to race against the Saturns, Cobalts, Vues, and Pathfinders. I think that I can take the Saturns and Cobalts but the Vues and Pathfinders have me...[:o]

Damage Inc.

02-04-2008, 05:37 PM

Bump

Gene K

02-04-2008, 07:21 PM

ORIGINAL: Stone629

ORIGINAL: Gene K

ORIGINAL: Stone629

I wasn't trying to "start" anything man. I just could'nt resist. I'm not saying you can or cannot drive..has nothing to do with it, but I am saying that a 0.00 RT is a red light all over the world, no matter what track you're at. A .50 RT is a perfect RT. You are just jumping a little to quick, that's all. I can't understand what the deal is at your track, maybe the red bulb is burned out or something [8D] Let's just let it go Ripped, we have a difference with the wholeRT thing, sothere's no point in dragging it out. My bad forbringing it up...

First of all its 0.500. And second of all some tracks start the reaction timer with the green light (0.000 being perfect).
Others start it with the last yellow in which case 0.500 is a perfect light.

The tracks I currently run all use 0.000. (Although one went from 0.000 to 0.500 and back to 0.000.)
Any redlight is listed as a minus number like the -0.002 I cut today.

Also 0.500 only applys to the Full or Sportsmen Tree. A perfect light on a Protree is 0.400.

Take it easy there thunder! I was already informed about some tracks running a 0.000 as a perfect RT and I politely accepted the correction. Secondly, I do run on a full tree and I'm also aware of the 0.400 RT of the Pro Tree. That's why I posted the link instead of going into detail like you are. Thirdly, explain the difference between .5,0.5, 0.50, 0.500, 0.5000, or 1/2 seconds. You know what I was saying with the .50, no need to be a wise ass.

As far the weight of the GTO vs S197, why don't you read the entire conversation I had with Iwhine, beforeposting smart comments like, "I didn't know Machs weighed as much as GTOs." I posted what I believed the weight of a S-197 to be, and was pretty damn close with my 3450lb estimate. I also clearly stated the GTO weighs 3700lbs. I also stated that these weight measurements were found via google, and I said "Don't hold me to it". The GTO weighs 3700lbs, the S-197 weighs 3400lbs, it's been established,big deal, so what's the point you're trying to make other than letting me know you are fully capable of being a ....?

Sorry! I thought you were piling on another member about his reaction time. Should just learn to keep my nose to myself.

About the weight issue, I should have just taken a deep breath. Im kind of sensitive on my cars weight...
I had a Termi Vert Owner call my car heavy.[sm=insomnia.gif] I also get people telling me the 2007 is heavier due to the across the board bodymods for the GT500's. Actually its 4 lb lighter. For some reason I always get Mach 1 owners who think their cars are way lighter than mine. They make more power and stock for stock they are a little quicker but not much lighter. Yes we are 500 lb heavier than a stripped 1987 Notch. We are also 200 lb heavier than a 2004 GT. We are closer to an F-Body in weight than a GTO.

Now I will shut up and let people get back to making excuses why they cant race the GTO's.
I would love to play but the 700 mi one-way drive is just a little much (my excuse!).

bad6as

02-04-2008, 07:40 PM

wow some of you guys are just stupid.
im interested in the track day but i would like to see a date set in stone for mir because its a hike for me.
what did you say about mason on the 22nd ?

its just gonna turn out to be a big test and tune event in my eyes.

i think it would be fun to beat a bunch of animals

Stone629

02-04-2008, 07:40 PM

Nohard feelingsGeneK, things are easily misunderstood on these forums. :)

94Thunderbirdpunk

02-04-2008, 08:08 PM

Why is this being planned for March? March can go either way as far as weather goes. I would think this venture would be more worth while in mid May when the weather isn't roasting yet, but still nice enough to assure you that the weekend you'd be setting aside wouldn't get rained out. Heck, if we were talking mid/late summer i'd hop on board if it were in western MD.

Damage Inc.

02-05-2008, 01:38 PM

Nothing set in stone yet because the polls are still open.

Yes, it's just a test-n-tune thing but with some fun competition.

I planned it for March because theres alot going on in the summer already, and I didn't know how well this was going to go. If there is interest in this kind of thing I'll try again maybe early fall. Sept. something? If this goes down at MIR this time will go to a different track, keep changing up. Maybe rent a track for a day.

Damage Inc.

02-06-2008, 02:35 PM

The tally so far:
MIR= 45
M/D= 18
Cec= 23
Cap= 4
Some may be duplicates due to this being in 7 different forums.

scubasteve22

02-06-2008, 03:31 PM

so whats the deal with the track?(MIR) like is it rented out for all of us and only us or is it just a normal day and were just doin this little fun challenge on the side

Damage Inc.

02-06-2008, 05:17 PM

It's a normal test and tune day. They know we are coming and will help keep us together in the staging lanes. The polls are still open but MIR is way out in front and has been.
Once the polls all close I will have more info.

To the others that don't want to/can't make the trip but still want to kick my ass, metaphorically speeking of course, I will go to the other tracks throughout the season. I'll post up with those dates and where.

Damage Inc.

02-08-2008, 06:30 PM

I did not start all the threads the same day. To be fair I wanted to give everyone the same amount of time to vote in the poll. Some of the polls have closed, most and will end this weekend. At this point MIR is ahead by 20 votes. I have been in contact with them as well as the second place track, Cecil. I think we all know how this will end. When all of the polls have ended I will let you all know.

If you plan on going please post up.
Some of us are planning to meet up before and cruise down as a group.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3771120 This link has alot of info.
If you have any questions post 'em up or PM me.
Hope to see you at the track.
Thanks, Thom.[/align]

Damage Inc.

02-10-2008, 06:42 PM

There is still one poll open, but I doubt that things will change. So it looks like we will be at MIR on 03/08. Everybody hope for good weather. Rain date has not been officially set but I will try to make that 03/29. If everbody that voted shows up we could have as many as fifty cars![/align]

Damage Inc.

02-11-2008, 07:01 PM

If you plan on running please post up, so I can give the track officials an aproximate number. Thanks Thom.[/align]

scubasteve22

02-11-2008, 07:26 PM

count me in and 2 other stangs...hopefully i can bring some more down also

28HopUp

02-11-2008, 10:24 PM

ORIGINAL: Damage Inc.

There is still one poll open, but I doubt that things will change. So it looks like we will be at MIR on 03/08. Everybody hope for good weather. Rain date has not been officially set but I will try to make that 03/29. If everbody that voted shows up we could have as many as fifty cars![/align]

The Get Out Of The Cold (http://www.badmustangsclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17986) Race will be at MIR on 3/29. I'll be there with my V6...

Damage Inc.

02-12-2008, 05:50 PM

So far all I see is Scubasteve22 + 2 friends.?
Is that all?

Damage Inc.

02-13-2008, 03:15 PM

We are doing this at MIR on March the eighth
http://mirdrag.com
Gates open at 10:00a. Some of us are meeting up at The Grille on Quarterfield Rd, around 8:00-8:30a. Others are meeting up at a commuter lot off the Prince William Pkwy. I'll give more info as I get it.

scubasteve22

02-13-2008, 06:16 PM

well count me out then cause i work mon-fri from 515am to 230 and MIR is almost 2 hrs from me so unlessi decide to take off work(maybe) then i prob wont make it but i will be there the 1st on saturday to race but ill keep u updated

Damage Inc.

02-13-2008, 06:34 PM

My mistake 03/08. must have had a brain fart.

Damage Inc.

02-15-2008, 06:25 PM

bump

Damage Inc.

02-19-2008, 03:04 PM

Only 2 more weekends to finish up those mods.

Damage Inc.

02-25-2008, 05:44 PM

bump

scubasteve22

02-25-2008, 07:43 PM

well count me out because last week my motor threw a rod through the block lol

ColinGT

02-25-2008, 09:01 PM

GOTO CECIL TRACK

Damage Inc.

02-26-2008, 05:27 PM

I WILL...
As I've said this was a majority vote amongst several forums and the vote went to MIR.

I live an hour, or more,closer to Cecil. There was alot of late response for Cecil so I think we will do another there sometime in late April or early May.

I will post up on this thread and also open a new one for that.

I know not many people like Capitol, but it's close for alot of people, so I'll probably do something there also. As well as Mas/Dix.

Damage Inc.

02-27-2008, 06:24 PM

What happened Steve?

Damage Inc.

03-01-2008, 06:52 AM

Is anybody from here coming?

Damage Inc.

03-03-2008, 05:20 PM

Mustangs=0

bluebeastsrt

03-03-2008, 05:24 PM

I'm thinkin everyone has lost interest by now.[:@]

Damage Inc.

03-04-2008, 02:57 PM

Yea,..thats it[sm=yikesomg.gif]

BicketyBam

03-04-2008, 03:12 PM

Your 20% tint scared them off.

USMCrebel

03-04-2008, 03:34 PM

to far for me.....but when is this taking place?

Damage Inc.

03-05-2008, 06:35 PM

You forgot the SAP wing. 20%+SAP=600+HP

Damage Inc.

03-05-2008, 06:35 PM

Balto:

There is a place called The Grille at the quarterfield rd. exit off of 97. Guys coming from the Baltimore region or surrounding we could meet here. It has a pretty good size parking lot and then cruise down from there.

http://thegrillatquarterfieldstation.com/ (http://thegrillatquarterfieldstation.com/)

I was going to try and get there close to opening gate, 10:00am. I'm thinking it take about 2hrs from my house.

According to mapquest the grill is 1hr 18mins, from MIR. So if you want we can meet there at 8:30. If thats not to early.

Date : 03/08/08 Correct
Time : ? 10:00 AM at the Track
Cruise meet ups ? (I'm in So. MD so I'll probably just drive straight there. Correct

If you live in the Baltimore region, The meet up is at The Grille on Quarterfield Rd. off of Rt. 97 @ 8:00 AM. Leave lot no later than 8:45
I am not sure were the meet is for the VA guys.

Im still not sure who all is coming or where they are coming from.?

This is what I do know:

Maryland International Raceway:
http://www.mirdrag.com/ (http://www.mirdrag.com/)

Adult Admission: $15.00
Child Admission: 11 & under admitted free
Entry Fees: $30.00 Test & Tune
$40.00 "No Time" Test & Tune
I will find out what the difference is between T & T and "No Time" T & T.

March 08 Gates open at 10:00am

I will be leaving home around 7:00am and 7:30 am. I will be heading East on 695 from exit 31. South 95 to 895 to 97 to 3.
I will be meeting up with Motorhead and Roswald at The Grille On Quarterfield Rd, around 8:00-8:30.
From there down to the track. I would like to be back on the road as close to 8:30 as possible to get there when they open the gates.

If anyone else is coming from the same direction as me we can meet up somewhere.

I will be at the Dunkin Donuts in Crofton on route 3 by 8:45 am.

Last time I went there(Motorcross the Nations) I left from work and went Around 495 to rt5 to 301. 301/5 to the 5 split and down through New Market to 236. It brings you right out to the track.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...l%29%20Doctors (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=internal&addtohistory=&latitud e=ekdIjZ7M5x5UMRhQFOD6jg%3d%3d&longitude=mOY8uvpDE 7Vh1aVAFNBxlw%3d%3d&name=Johns%20Hopkins%20Bayview %20Med%20Ctr&country=US&address=4940%20Eastern%20A ve%20%23%20B%2d123&city=Baltimore&state=MD&zipcode =21224&phone=410%2d550%2d0978&spurl=0&&q=johns%20h opkins%20bayview&qc=%28All%29%20Doctors)
If you get of at ex12 E. Lombard St./ Bayview Hosp. off of 895s past the 95s split. There is a lot that looks like I can meet you. I'll check it out in person Wed or Thurs.

NOVA:

There is a commuter lot right off the Prince William Pkwy we always met up at when we go to the track or what not

[quote=Pheonix311;3756010]Im geussing your talking about the onmi-link station?

Fredrick:

Depending if Hank is coming this way, I'm going down after to Fredrick and linking up with Killer impulse, don't know yet if we are going straight there, I'll let you know as soon as I know if Hank is coming this way or not.

Cool meet you there, we can meet at the Sam's off of 270, at maybe 8:30, let me know.

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Damage Inc.

03-07-2008, 02:54 PM

If any ones interested:
Looks Like Rain:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this point I/We are going to have to postpone this till next weekend or beyond. I'll do some checking and get more info on what the Mid-Day Madness is all about. They run T+T on Sat. and MDM on Sun.
http://mirdrag.com/v2/schedule/calen...3/08-03-16.htm (http://mirdrag.com/v2/schedule/calen...3/08-03-16.htm)

It's actually cheaper:

Adult Admission: $10.00
Child Admission: 11 & under admitted free
Entry Fees: $20.00 Super Street (13.00 & Slower)
$20.00 Pro Street (12.99 & Quicker)
$20.00 Street Bikes (All Run)
Entry Fee includes driver's admission
Event Description:
This series is dedicated to our "STREET ONLY" fans and racers from far and wide; offering a weekly dose of that adrenaline rush you crave, but in a safe and legal environment that's ONLY open to street legal cars and bikes - no race cars.

It's all about the cruise, whether you're speeding down the track pushing the accelerator farther than it's ever been before... or just pimpin' your ride, blastin' the dB's from that rack of 15's in the backseat.

Entering the event is easy! Just fill out the tech card and proceed to tech (located in staging lanes #10 & #11). A tech official will give your car a brief safety inspection and assign a number to you! You're now ready to run!

Don't forget that if you make a perfect run in eliminations, you'll get a $1,000 SHOPPING SPREE at SPEED UNLIMITED, Maryland's Hi-Performance SuperStore!
Gates Open:
10:00 am
Time Runs:
10:00 am - 2:30 pm
Qualifying:
N/A
Show Start Time:
N/A
Pro Eliminations:
N/A
Sportsman Eliminations:
2:30 pm
Car Show Opens:
N/A
Car Show Judging:
N/A
Car Show Awards:
N/A
Gates Close:
At completion of the event
Beer Trailer:
CLOSED - during this event

And you could actually come away with more than just pride