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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 6:36:45 AM   
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sorry to bring up and old thread ...but the hemi is not over rated at all...mine ran high 13's stock...


Wow..you brought back an old thread to tell us what we already know??  Well done!

BTW depending on how you look at it people are going to think it's overrated....  an engine making similar power is planted under the hood of my car and the results are night and day.  The hemi wouldn't get dumped on except for two things..

1) They put it in the heaviest vehicles they could possibly find....

2) It's hyped up to an annoying level even though it's not doing anything that GM/Ford hadn't already done (really making 350hp with a 5.7L is amazing?  That's the magic of 'Hemi' right?)

For what it's worth Chevy passed the 400hp mark with 5.7L before the Hemi even came out.  Then all of sudden the farm boy redneck hicks venture into the city and start spouting 'hemi' this and 'hemi that' like it was the best thing every created.  So people started listening... then they put their 'hemi' cars on the track and came back with *gasp* 14 second timeslips...even the mustang guys chuckled with thier 2V 4.6L cars...  all the hype for that?

Seriously the 'Hemi' group did this to themselves...  like it or not that image (overrated/overhyped) isn't going away anytime soon.  Even though the SRT guys get a respect it doesn't trickle down hill,  the 5.7L guys are stuck with the mess they created.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 10:02:25 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mexi

sorry to bring up and old thread ...but the hemi is not over rated at all...mine ran high 13's stock...


Wow..you brought back an old thread to tell us what we already know??  Well done!

BTW depending on how you look at it people are going to think it's overrated....  an engine making similar power is planted under the hood of my car and the results are night and day.  The hemi wouldn't get dumped on except for two things..

1) They put it in the heaviest vehicles they could possibly find....

2) It's hyped up to an annoying level even though it's not doing anything that GM/Ford hadn't already done (really making 350hp with a 5.7L is amazing?  That's the magic of 'Hemi' right?)

For what it's worth Chevy passed the 400hp mark with 5.7L before the Hemi even came out.  Then all of sudden the farm boy redneck hicks venture into the city and start spouting 'hemi' this and 'hemi that' like it was the best thing every created.  So people started listening... then they put their 'hemi' cars on the track and came back with *gasp* 14 second timeslips...even the mustang guys chuckled with thier 2V 4.6L cars...  all the hype for that?

Seriously the 'Hemi' group did this to themselves...  like it or not that image (overrated/overhyped) isn't going away anytime soon.  Even though the SRT guys get a respect it doesn't trickle down hill,  the 5.7L guys are stuck with the mess they created.

It's your bed, you made it. Sleep in it.



yes my car is brick ...very heavy 4250  but how is that over rated it makes the power they claim and its in a 4k+ car simple math will tell you the out come.

after i modded mine and go to the track.(heads and cam)
i walk away with a 12sec time slip with a 4 door.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 10:14:17 AM   
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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 10:35:27 AM   
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so you are oviously a dick..

if your are refering to the its got a hemi commercial as all the hype. that was the trucks.

who overated it owners??
hell every make and model car out has those few guys that think its the fastest thing on the road.

Car and driver and every other magazine has them rated at what they will do . so i guess i do FAIL .


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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 10:52:06 AM   
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What mods do you have on your 300C?

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 11:06:01 AM   
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The Hemi naysayers are entitled to an opinion. I would just say this, it's a nice engine deserving of praise.

When a 4,000+ pound SRT8 station wagon can go toe to toe with a much lighter GTO, it gets my respect. Furthermore, when a garden variety R/T beats a Mustang, as was the case here, I'll tip my hat top to that family sedan.

Now, if some hemi owners expect miracles, and think they are unbeatable - that's their problem, not the hemi's.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 11:14:32 AM   
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The Hemi naysayers are entitled to an opinion. I would just say this, it's a nice engine deserving of praise.

When a 4,000+ pound SRT8 station wagon can go toe to toe with a much lighter GTO, it gets my respect. Furthermore, when a garden variety R/T beats a Mustang, as was the case here, I'll tip my hat top to that family sedan.

Now, if some hemi owners expect miracles, and think they are unbeatable - that's their problem, not the hemi's.


Yep. This whole thing is kind of retarded, there's always fan boys that will never listen to reason or facts, they live in their little fairy and leprechaun filled worlds thinking there car is unbeatable. Those are the people who, when you beat them make the win that more enjoyable.

But honestly, who cares about this whole over rated thing, this thread is old.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 12:25:10 PM   
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What mods do you have on your 300C?
i have Frank Racing heads ,cam, jba headers,hiflo cats, magnaflow exhaust, afe stage II cai, diablo cmr tune.



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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 1:15:25 PM   
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Nice times Mexi.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 1:18:18 PM   
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thanks... looks like you're pretty quick yourself

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 1:24:50 PM   
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I was neck and neck with a 300C hemi with my mazdaspeed 6...lol...

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:00:27 PM   
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i wouldnt tell anyone eles that i had a mazdaspeed 6...

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:08:18 PM   
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i wouldnt tell anyone eles that i had a mazdaspeed 6...


Hey! Everyone's had slower cars(and some of them were imports). At least he upgraded to a GT.  And not to bash the 300C Hemi, but is the $5k price tag over the charger Hemi worth it for the interior and exterior looks/feel/gadgets?

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:15:12 PM   
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true he does have a stang now. i love the new ones.

i just loved the look of the 300c..and i was torn between them..but money wasnt really a huge issue i got the one i wanted ...plus 300c is more of a sleeper.


http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/mexi22/?action=view&current=CIMG1182.flv

< Message edited by mexi -- 3/18/2008 2:16:18 PM >


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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:38:31 PM   
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true he does have a stang now. i love the new ones.

i just loved the look of the 300c..and i was torn between them..but money wasnt really a huge issue i got the one i wanted ...plus 300c is more of a sleeper.


http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/mexi22/?action=view&current=CIMG1182.flv


I definitly have to agree with you on that. 300C=big sleeper when modded. Nice car! Is that stock exhaust? I have heard SLP loudmouths in person on the 5.7 Hemi and they sound so ****ing nice. Clips on youtube don't do them justice. Nice time you got there too! I don't hear about that many 12sec 5.7 hemi's.    

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:40:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mexi

true he does have a stang now. i love the new ones.

i just loved the look of the 300c..and i was torn between them..but money wasnt really a huge issue i got the one i wanted ...plus 300c is more of a sleeper.


http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/mexi22/?action=view&current=CIMG1182.flv


HEMI is overrated.. they aren't even HEMI's, it's just a name dodge decided to use for marketing purposes

I've been over this time and time again

original HEMI cylinder heads


fake HEMI cylinder heads


the new hemi engine is about as hemispherical as the new charger is a remade classic

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 2:48:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mexi

true he does have a stang now. i love the new ones.

i just loved the look of the 300c..and i was torn between them..but money wasnt really a huge issue i got the one i wanted ...plus 300c is more of a sleeper.


http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/mexi22/?action=view¤t=CIMG1182.flv


HEMI is overrated.. they aren't even HEMI's, it's just a name dodge decided to use for marketing purposes

I've been over this time and time again

original HEMI cylinder heads


fake HEMI cylinder heads


the new hemi engine is about as hemispherical as the new charger is a remade classic



Yeah yeah, and your GTO isn't a real GTO and my Charger isn't a real Charger...

Big deal, it's marketing.

(BTW they still look somewhat hemispherical to me...)

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 3:09:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mexi

so you are oviously a dick..

if your are refering to the its got a hemi commercial as all the hype. that was the trucks.

who overated it owners??
hell every make and model car out has those few guys that think its the fastest thing on the road.

Car and driver and every other magazine has them rated at what they will do . so i guess i do FAIL .



I think you fail to comprehend why you get flack from people regarding the HEMI... 

I was simply trying to point out why a lot of people don't respect them and say what they do. 

No sweat off my sack really.

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 3:13:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions

quote:

ORIGINAL: mexi

true he does have a stang now. i love the new ones.

i just loved the look of the 300c..and i was torn between them..but money wasnt really a huge issue i got the one i wanted ...plus 300c is more of a sleeper.


http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/mexi22/?action=view¤t=CIMG1182.flv


HEMI is overrated.. they aren't even HEMI's, it's just a name dodge decided to use for marketing purposes

I've been over this time and time again

original HEMI cylinder heads


fake HEMI cylinder heads


the new hemi engine is about as hemispherical as the new charger is a remade classic



Yeah yeah, and your GTO isn't a real GTO and my Charger isn't a real Charger...

Big deal, it's marketing.

(BTW they still look somewhat hemispherical to me...)


BWAHAHA!!!

alas the most idiotic comeback surfaces, your charger is a real charger.. alas it wouldn't be called a charger... can you not read the emblem?

I said it diddn't follow in the footsteps of the original for comparison purposes... meaning the heads are not hemispherical (it's black and white really)... if I cared about a car following in the footsteps of ancient technology I wouldn't be driving a GTO and I would think grand prixs should still look like this sack of feces



I guess the new ford windstar isn't a real ford windstar because it doesn't look like the original... it's a figment of our imagination ::scary music::



and I hate to break it to you, but the 6.1L V8 in the 300, the charger and the magnum can't hold a candle to the LS2 in the GTO, the goat is heavy but it seems like dodge just decided to go "HEEYY! they have heavier cars! NO FAIR! lets make the heaviest performance lineup on the market and pretend that weight doesn't make a difference"

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RE: Got beat by my buddy's 300c!!! - 3/18/2008 3:31:25 PM   
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The MS6 was my daily driver when I actually cared about gas mileage...now that my commute is less than 2 miles I now drive the stang...and with the procharger its hands down more fun than anything I've owned other than my procharged 99 cobra which was probably equally as fun

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