whooped his ass pretty bad all the way to 130

lol u sure it was a SVO? and not a 4 banger stang?;) lol

:DJust Playin bro, Nice Kill:D

Are you sure he was racing? [8D]

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Are you sure he was racing? [8D]


Thats what I was going to say

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ORIGINAL: TRBOPWR

Are you sure he was racing? [8D]


Thats what I was going to say



Damn you both beat me to it[:@]

why else would he pull to that speed? he didn't go by me until i slowed back to around 85[8D] SVO's really aren't that fast. like i said... i can take a 5.0 mustang.

Right:eek::eek::eek:

What did this SVO look like (flush or non flush head lights)

non flush, the headlights were set back into the body a little bit. dude i could hear the turbo spooling[8D] its 50 degrees today, i had the windows open on my car.

It was probley an 84, 150(?) hp version. Hmmm... bad gas kills a turbo car also[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]

idk, but racing was pretty fun even after breaking up with my gf.

you would get raped by a stock 5.0 mustang.........

ive driven a car just like yours.....

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SVO's really aren't that fast. like i said... i can take a 5.0 mustang.

84's and 85's have the recessed headlights, and are rated at 175 hp. That being said, you don't know what you are talking about. I would feel completely free to race you any day, and any time, and the only reason that you could "take" a 5.0 is if it was wore out POS that needs a driver mod. Get the car on the track and show us some numbers, maybe then people will believe how "fast" your Cougar is.

Congrats! You beat a car that was ~12 years older and had 1.5 liters less displacement! [sm=smiley20.gif]

My father has a 3.8L MN12, along with 2 other friends. My TC stock was no compairison. 40 more horsepower and about 300 less pounds.

so you can beat 5.0's that are putting out 225hp, with your cougar thats putting out 145hp..... BULLLLLLLSSSHHHHHIIIITTT

Oh, and thats not to mention the 500lbs you have on the5.0...

different tranny, different rear gears... power means nothing unless u get it to the ground...

The tranny is actually the same other than the electronic controls, and you have 3.08's or 3.27's in the rear. Those don't make up for the extra 500 pounds you have on an SVO.

i read that the actual gearing of the 4r70w was different than the AOD and AODE, i have traction lok so i would have 3.27's

If he was racing. I bet it needs tuneup or he was in process of tuning.

Maybe he was nice and Opened his Waste gate WIDE OPEN for Ya!

Maybe he was running only 8 psi and 87

I call total BS until your mods say SC 3.8. 130?? How do you know you were going 130? The speedos on those cars only go to 120.The only way you could've beat a 5.0 Mustang is if it was a 79 model and that's a maybe. My 92 Thunderbird Sport with the 5.0 HO wouldn't beat a 95 Mustang GT convertible when it was stock. It did beat a 95 Cougar XR7 with the 4.6 though.3.8 MN-12s are total dogs -145hp in a 3800lb car, the V8s are barely adequate for those cars.

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why else would he pull to that speed? he didn't go by me until i slowed back to around 85[8D] SVO's really aren't that fast. like i said... i can take a 5.0 mustang.


wanna race? i beat you guys around corners.

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why else would he pull to that speed? he didn't go by me until i slowed back to around 85[8D] SVO's really aren't that fast. like i said... i can take a 5.0 mustang.


wanna race? i beat you guys around corners.


3.8's, not SVO/2.3 turbo's

what province/state do you live in and whats your License plate number.

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I call total BS until your mods say SC 3.8. 130?? How do you know you were going 130? The speedos on those cars only go to 120.The only way you could've beat a 5.0 Mustang is if it was a 79 model and that's a maybe. My 92 Thunderbird Sport with the 5.0 HO wouldn't beat a 95 Mustang GT convertible when it was stock. It did beat a 95 Cougar XR7 with the 4.6 though.3.8 MN-12s are total dogs -145hp in a 3800lb car, the V8s are barely adequate for those cars.


[>:]

I take offense to that.


I think all of 92lx's stories come straight out of his ass and then he types them out on this forum...

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what province/state do you live in and whats your License plate number.


are you a pig? why the **** would you want that info?

whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent very fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. i had a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.

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whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent very fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. i had a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.



Noone believes you because of the constant bull**** you spew with no way to back it up. Sure, i can claim my 2.3l can smoke my dads 383 vette, my friends 06 civic si, and any 5.0 out there....

Your giving out BS unless we have VIDEO, not PICTURES

The only numbers I can find for a stock 3.8 Cougar are in the mid 16's. A bone stock 84-85 SVO can pull mid 15's bone stock. So:
1) He wasn't really racing
2) Car wasn't running well
3) Not running much boost
4) He felt sorry for you and let you win
5) You just made it up because you are an attention whore

You can talk about SVO's being slow all you want, but one ingood running condition would dust off your Cougar like it was nothing. [sm=closed.gif]

VIDEO NOW!!

Originally postded by hellion_79:
I take offense to that.


LOL sorry man, but facts is facts. 1979 was the lowest rated 302 in a fox body Mustang @ 140hp.




































I honestly like the older stangs foureyedpride FTW

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whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent i hvery fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. ad a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.



youve owned and had all of those on the road? arent you 19?

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whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent i hvery fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. ad a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.



youve owned and had all of those on the road? arent you 19?



of course not, but anyone can make stuff up on the internet. You should seem my 69 camaro with a blow 454 in it... my 4 banger mustang is my fav car tho...

i love the tension lol

haha, its entertaining. But really if your going to claim to beat something that there is hardly any way you could.... pick something a little more impressive

well also you never know if he's bs-ing or not. i mean as trbopwr said theres many factors that could play into it. so you never know.

i never said the svo was in perfect running order either did i? my buddy has been building it, and he's in the process of getting it tuned. I mean, it sounded like it was ok, but he was only running about 9 psi boost. and he doesn't have 5th gear. If he can't get it into the 15's before the end of next month, he's scrapping it, and putting a 3.8 into it.

Skar, yes i owned all of those. my dad gave me the 5.0 mustang, the bronco was a mud truck we built, the lincoln i bought for 700 dollars, put a race motor in it. blew it up and bought a 347 from summit and stuck it in.

My first car was a 91 geo storm GSI with the isuzu impulse turbo setup. 1.6L DOHC about 195 hp? idk. 5 speed. good running car, redlined at 10,000 rpms, never got that on the road, bought when i was 12 for $300. and it "fell" apart before i was 15

i usually buy generally 3-4 different cars a year, fix them and resell them.

So you've had all these fast cars.... but now your rocking a slow v6 cougar?

WAIT a moment. dont talk enless you have been inside a XR-7 they aint as slow as you may think they are. face it its faster than a 2.3. and if you didnt read. it was his buddies thats in the process of rebuilding. give him a break

i like how some people are so incompetent on these boards lol... ill race you with my 2.3t lol slap your cougar. Im sure theres somethin wrong with the svo or he wasnt completely booting it.

you now claim it was your buddys svo, and that it isnt running right and doesnt have 5th gear

you suck at lieing

ORIGINAL: SKAR

you now claim it was your buddys svo, and that it isnt running right and doesnt have 5th gear

you suck at lieing


+1

So you really didn't beat an SVO then, just a dumb kid that doesn't know wtf he's doing, also give me his address, if he swaps a 3.8 in there I'll go and pimp slap him[8D] for being so stupid

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you now claim it was your buddys svo, and that it isnt running right and doesnt have 5th gear

you suck at lieing



wtf u talking about? all i said b4 was i beat an svo, i didnt' go into any detail when i said that.

ORIGINAL: 92lxsleeper
i never said the svo was in perfect running order either did i? my buddy has been building it, and he's in the process of getting it tuned. I mean, it sounded like it was ok, but he was only running about 9 psi boost. and he doesn't have 5th gear. If he can't get it into the 15's before the end of next month, he's scrapping it, and putting a 3.8 into it.


Right there is some important info. He's running 5 psi less than stock, I would consider that a car not in proper tune. And without 5th gear the car isn't going to go much more than 105-110 mph or so, so your run to 120+ was pointless. It would be like racing a new sixerStang and bragging yours is faster because you passed him on his limiter at 115 a mile later when you finally caught up.

Your "friend" is a complete jackass ifhe is even considering a 3.8 in an SVO. I will repeat,aBONE STOCK SVO will run mid 15's.If he can't manage that heis completely retarded.

3.8's are honestly a waste of time, supercharged theyre fun. but WHY supercharge a 3.8 when a 5.0 is just as easy

originally posted by 92lxsleeper:
i never said the svo was in perfect running order either did i?

No, but you didn't say it was running likea dogeither. I ran a 69 Buick GS with a 455 and beat him 3 times, but his crappy quadrajet was having problems. I told everybody that it was having problems because I'm not a douche...

Here's the facts:
1996 Cougar 3.8
140hp
215 ft/lb tq
4r70w automatic
3.27:1 axle
weight 3559

1984 Mustang SVO 2.3T
175hp
210 ft/lb tq
T5 manual with 4.03 first gear
3.45:1 axle
weight 2992

Oh SNAPZZZZZZ!!!!11 your cougar has 5 wholemore torque, that must be why you have totalownage on a crappy running SVO [8D]:eek:

since when.... the 1996 3.8 was 150 hp and 215 lb ft? where u get that info? but big deal 10 hp...

but yeah, i prolly got idk, 160 hp 225 torque... idk what the tuner gives it, along with the catback and K&N

now looking at the stats its pretty close but the svo still should have won. Some ppl may believe you are b/s'ing but i think the bottom line is this thread needs to be locked before it gets out of hand like they have before...

but where is all his torque at on the svo? all mine is right off the line, no forced induction. at under 2000 hp. he's no better than a NA 2.3L

i wonder if a split port would be better than a supercoupe motor? i wanna hit 300 hp, but i gotta get my GF into the states in May.


all i know, is when i put it in low, and stomp the gas, both rear tires lose it really easily..... i really think they underpowered them on the dyno sheets for insurance purpose... cause this car feels like more than 150 hp. id say around 180 and 250 torque... my mark vii had a 5.0 HO in it stock, and this car would take it no prob and the mark vii had 225 hp, 300 torque, and 3.08 posi trac. AOD automatic

loooool this is like that one kid in the OTwho claimed to have a Ford GT and 2 Mustangs and he had lots of pics of it but people found out that its actually his neighbors and all he has is a 06 v6 stang. there was a 40pg pwnage thread about him in 3.8mustang.com OT section. It was funny, people made a **** load of pics of him....

now 92lx, you dont want this to happen to you? would you?


The fact is you did not beat/race an SVO and if your "friend" had one we would have heard it from you a long ass time ago along with other BS stories. You either get a video and i wanna make sure its actually you and make sure to talk so we can hear your redneck voice.

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i wonder if a split port would be better than a supercoupe motor? i wanna hit 300 hp, but i gotta get my GF into the states in May.


all i know, is when i put it in low, and stomp the gas, both rear tires lose it really easily..... i really think they underpowered them on the dyno sheets for insurance purpose... cause this car feels like more than 150 hp. id say around 180 and 250 torque... my mark vii had a 5.0 HO in it stock, and this car would take it no prob and the mark vii had 225 hp, 300 torque, and 3.08 posi trac. AOD automatic



um no, 3.8's are slow

How the fluck do you get 180hp and 250tq?

SVO gets its full tq at 2500-3000 rpm. Also, it makes a little more than what everyones saying. Also, the SVO would PWN your cars ass, 500lbs is .5(maybe more) off the 1/4 mile:eek::eek:

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How the fluck do you get 180hp and 250tq?

SVO gets its full tq at 2500-3000 rpm. Also, it makes a little more than what everyones saying. Also, the SVO would PWN your cars ass, 500lbs is .5(maybe more) off the 1/4 mile:eek::eek:



read sleeper.... i said, my car feels like it has about that........... it feels like alot more than 150 hp....

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but where is all his torque at on the svo?

Doesn't matter. At the speeds you are claiming your 10-20 advantage in torque would not make up for the horsepower difference in a race. If the car was only running 9 psi of boost, and had no 5th gear I can see you winning. This has been beaten to death.

[sm=lockeddance.gif]

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but where is all his torque at on the svo? all mine is right off the line, no forced induction. at under 2000 hp. he's no better than a NA 2.3L

This is where driving is important. If youre able to ride the clutch properly, and keep the rpm's up, load the engine to boost it, and come out of the hole, youre in peak torque, and youll never drop below your peak torque when you shift.

Beating a poorly running SVO is like fighting a kid on crutches.

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but where is all his torque at on the svo? all mine is right off the line, no forced induction. at under 2000 hp. he's no better than a NA 2.3L

This is where driving is important. If youre able to ride the clutch properly, and keep the rpm's up, load the engine to boost it, and come out of the hole, youre in peak torque, and youll never drop below your peak torque when you shift.

Beating a poorly running SVO is like fighting a kid on crutches.



lolz that is true tho... but heres the deal guys... he bought it in non running condition, he knows little about cars, and is learning as he goes along... i've told him that it could be pushing more. i think the wastegate actualator is messed up... but yeah we only raced to see how his car was coming along... plus i wanted to finally open mine up a little.[8D]

but i'm sure he doesn't know about riding a clutch... let alone keeping it in his power range.

well all i can say is, that i want to race a STOCK svo in good running condition.

i've already had to prove it to the 3.8 section that my car goes 0-60 in approx 7.5 secs vs the 9 seconds they run.... theres like a 10 page thread on it... but i proved it, even if they don't wanna accept it.... the video doesn't lie... its the one everyone else has seen of me driving the cougar.

You would still get your ass handed to you. My red SVO ran 15.44 @ ~93 ish with a K&N. Toss a little more boost and some exhaust at them and you've got high 14's.

if u can get so much power out of them, with so little modifications.... how come they weren't that popular then?

Because a brand new GT Mustang was ~$7-8K less money. Plus, look at the mindset of people today, let alone then. The EVO or STi are perfect examples. People generally agree, yes, they are pretty quick little cars. But, gasp!, they are only 4 bangers. Why spend 35K on a new STi or EVO when you can get a perfectly good Mustang GT with a V8 for less than 30K? The SVO was ahead of its time.

You can also add to that people probably weren't super anxious to void warranties and such with modifications to their brand new cars...

(Just to add, I meant high 14's before not 13's. High 13's generally require more boost, some timing, maybe some light porting, and stickier tires.)

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The SVO was ahead of its time.

+1

id love to have some parts of a junk one.
3.8 are total dogs plus the cougar is a pig. weight to horsepower ratio is everything. so how can you argue a car that weighs less with more horsepower is slower than you?? the only fast 3.8 i've ever rode in was the supercoupe we had in the early 90s.

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if u can get so much power out of them, with so little modifications.... how come they weren't that popular then?


Dude, you are an idiot.

My 1992 Ranger STX would SMOKE YOU. My little 2.9 V6 took a 2002 Taurus like nobodys business.

Forget your 3.8 turd, my fathers Mark VIII will slap that little slut right in the grille HARD.


LOL THREAD NECRO!

LOL Nismo.....

Its ok though cause my lamborghinin diablo SV and my ferarri Enzo along with my M3 and my Honda Jet will beat all your cars!!!!!!!!!



HAHAHAHA. This was an awesome funny thread to read.

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ORIGINAL: 92lxsleeper
whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent i hvery fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. ad a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.

youve owned and had all of those on the road? arent you 19?

what's wrong with being young... I built my first twin turbo kit right before i turned 17 :D. I didn't know wtf i was doing at the time. My dad helped teach me how to weld while I was 16 on a couple bars of steel... I bought the piping & had to have a bit of help from companies, but I pulled it off... ;) That was eons ago... If I could see myself then i probably wouldn't stop laughing. [8D] especially at my first cold air intake setup LOL. at least i started young. [&:]
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whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent very fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. i had a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.

Not saying your wrong because for all I know you could have bought your car & someone put alot of money into it but you aren't aware. But saying the svo isn't very fast is not all right. I built a 2.3t notch just to show how quick they were to a friend that didn't believe you could have cheap power. & one of my good friends bought an 85 1/2 svo shortly after. With the exhaust off after the down pipe (clogged cat so took it off) & set on premium his car is quicker than my friends '88 GT with only a catback. Both cars with a T5. & I know my friend that owns the '88 GT can shift alot faster than my friend with the svo.

I've done quite a few 5.0 swaps & been working on them for quite a while. Needless to say I know my way around them & love them just as much as the next mustang owner, but the 2.3t stock for stock will run right with it. Now I personally prefer my 5.0 to the 2.3t, but I also have a bit more work done to my 5.0 than the 2.3t. Both are great engines & both sound lovely while driving (i prefer the 5.0 though while just cruising though). 2.3t's can be made fast for very cheap just like the 5.0

Yeah guys I totally just beat a Viper Hennesey Venom 1000 with my 3.8L stock 03 stang...



**winks**

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whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent i hvery fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. ad a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco[8D] so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.

youve owned and had all of those on the road? arent you 19?

what's wrong with being young... I built my first twin turbo kit right before i turned 17 :D. I didn't know wtf i was doing at the time. My dad helped teach me how to weld while I was 16 on a couple bars of steel... I bought the piping & had to have a bit of help from companies, but I pulled it off... ;) That was eons ago... If I could see myself then i probably wouldn't stop laughing. [8D] especially at my first cold air intake setup LOL. at least i started young. [&:]
ORIGINAL: 92lxsleeper
whatever i'll make a video if u don't believe me.... how do i know i was doing 130? the needle went past 120, locked on the bezel and my rpms kept goin. hellion... u have a 88 hp mustang... no offense but the svos arent very fast... my 3.8 isn't either.. but its faster than the 5.0 thunderbird.. i had a mark vii... i know what they do. i've had 5.0 mustangs, mark vii's, 2.3, and a 351 bronco so far my 3.8 is my fav (stock) my all time fav was my 347 stroker.

Not saying your wrong because for all I know you could have bought your car & someone put alot of money into it but you aren't aware. But saying the svo isn't very fast is not all right. I built a 2.3t notch just to show how quick they were to a friend that didn't believe you could have cheap power. & one of my good friends bought an 85 1/2 svo shortly after. With the exhaust off after the down pipe (clogged cat so took it off) & set on premium his car is quicker than my friends '88 GT with only a catback. Both cars with a T5. & I know my friend that owns the '88 GT can shift alot faster than my friend with the svo.

I've done quite a few 5.0 swaps & been working on them for quite a while. Needless to say I know my way around them & love them just as much as the next mustang owner, but the 2.3t stock for stock will run right with it. Now I personally prefer my 5.0 to the 2.3t, but I also have a bit more work done to my 5.0 than the 2.3t. Both are great engines & both sound lovely while driving (i prefer the 5.0 though while just cruising though). 2.3t's can be made fast for very cheap just like the 5.0



wow... this is an old thread.

but no. the 2.3T.. hell even the 5.0L... there not fast... they are very good for being stock, and for the price they are. both easily upgradable.

I guess I should have worded that a little different... I was comparing it to most stock cars of that time. I don't consider the 2.3t or 5.0 fast either stock. heck my '89 gt runs 12's on street tires & i still only consider it "decent" when people ask if it's fast.

I was just trying to get across that the 5.0 isn't like all bad compared to the 2.3t. If both were in a race 87-93 5.0 compared to an svo on premium & both had just rolled off the assembly line I wouldn't say one would trash the other. One does have less power yes, but it weighs less so it makes up for it in power to weight ratio.


Yeah it is old... I didn't notice the date. I just saw it in the 1st page on 4 cylinder section.

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Yeah guys I totally just beat a Viper Hennesey Venom 1000 with my 3.8L stock 03 stang...



**winks**


Haha dude. You must play forza2.

Those cars are incredible.They have some mad pull and can get off the line like an AWD car if you play it right. I watched a documentry on that car.

And where the **** did this thread come from?

sorry, but isnt this a "ford mustang" site? if you want to come on this site and bad mouth everyones stuff, than go to a all so popular "chevy celebrity" site.