Mustang Forums   Mustang Classifieds   Photo Gallery   Calendars   Search   Live Chat   Contact MF   Sponsors
  Mustang Recalls   Mustang TSB's   News   Timeslips   Timeline   Wallpaper   Member List   Register   Login

87/89/91

  Printable Version
Mustang >> Vendors & Sponsors >> VMP Tuning >> 87/89/91 Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
87/89/91 - 1/22/2008 1:35:02 PM   
Smgfan1224



Posts: 141
Joined: 10/20/2006
Status: offline
would it be possible to get the break down of each tune 87/89/91.  Also the difference between the performance and milage. if possible?
Post #: 1
RE: 87/89/91 - 1/23/2008 6:07:56 AM   
Justin00Stang


Posts: 228
Joined: 9/13/2006
From: Orlando/Daytona Area, FL
Status: offline
Hi, I'll try to answer that, but it would be better if I knew what car and what mods.

All the tunes are similar in the respect that they optimize the calibration for overall driveability, throttle response, raise rev limiter slightly, remove speed limiter, get rid of torque truncation in 1st gear on 4.0Ls, optimize torque reduction on autos, firm up shifts on autos, change shift/lock points on autos, and the A/F ratio is optimized at WOT. 

The 87 tune does not result in a ton of power, but you still get all the benefits above.  On 89 we can run a little more timing and get a little more power.  Premium fuel (91-93) is going to get you the most power and torque due to the ability to run more timing.

The mileage tunes increase fuel economy while cruising, with no loss in wot power.  Some may notice a little bit of reduced part throttle power with the mileage tunes.

For example, on an automatic 4.0L I optimize the shift/lock schedule, so even with a 93 perf tune you will pick up a slight amount of mileage due to the improved efficiency through the trans.


_____________________________

Justin Starkey-VMP Tuning-Custom SCT Tuning for your Mustang GT 4.6L 4.0L 3.8L
2007 Shelby GT500 697RWHP/702RWTQ
2006 Mustang 4.0 395RWHP 12.5@110, wife's car
2000 Mustang 3.8 TT 450RWHP, 10.9@127
2006 F250

(in reply to Smgfan1224)
Post #: 2
RE: 87/89/91 - 1/23/2008 10:24:17 PM   
Smgfan1224



Posts: 141
Joined: 10/20/2006
Status: offline
oh haha 07 v6 mustang with mrt exhaust  so far..

(in reply to Justin00Stang)
Post #: 3
RE: 87/89/91 - 1/24/2008 6:19:59 AM   
Justin00Stang


Posts: 228
Joined: 9/13/2006
From: Orlando/Daytona Area, FL
Status: offline
The 4.0L picks up a ton of MPG with my tunes, some have reported 3-4mpg increase on the highway. 

With our intake and tune package, you'll see about 15RWHP and 10RWTQ gain.


_____________________________

Justin Starkey-VMP Tuning-Custom SCT Tuning for your Mustang GT 4.6L 4.0L 3.8L
2007 Shelby GT500 697RWHP/702RWTQ
2006 Mustang 4.0 395RWHP 12.5@110, wife's car
2000 Mustang 3.8 TT 450RWHP, 10.9@127
2006 F250

(in reply to Smgfan1224)
Post #: 4
RE: 87/89/91 - 1/24/2008 1:32:12 PM   
Smgfan1224



Posts: 141
Joined: 10/20/2006
Status: offline
since mine is a manual, there would be no need for for firm shifts and lock points correct?

_____________________________

07 V6 Leather 5spd, Shaker 500, Street Scene grill, MRT Exhaust, Baltimore Street Mod Stripes,
18" FanBlades, 6000k Hids

(in reply to Justin00Stang)
Post #: 5
RE: 87/89/91 - 1/24/2008 6:35:09 PM   
Justin00Stang


Posts: 228
Joined: 9/13/2006
From: Orlando/Daytona Area, FL
Status: offline

right

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smgfan1224

since mine is a manual, there would be no need for for firm shifts and lock points correct?


_____________________________

Justin Starkey-VMP Tuning-Custom SCT Tuning for your Mustang GT 4.6L 4.0L 3.8L
2007 Shelby GT500 697RWHP/702RWTQ
2006 Mustang 4.0 395RWHP 12.5@110, wife's car
2000 Mustang 3.8 TT 450RWHP, 10.9@127
2006 F250

(in reply to Smgfan1224)
Post #: 6
RE: 87/89/91 - 4/18/2008 10:50:35 AM   
Frank Bullitt

 

Posts: 62
Joined: 1/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Justin00Stang

Hi, I'll try to answer that, but it would be better if I knew what car and what mods.

All the tunes are similar in the respect that they optimize the calibration for overall driveability, throttle response, raise rev limiter slightly, remove speed limiter, get rid of torque truncation in 1st gear on 4.0Ls, optimize torque reduction on autos, firm up shifts on autos, change shift/lock points on autos, and the A/F ratio is optimized at WOT. 

The 87 tune does not result in a ton of power, but you still get all the benefits above.  On 89 we can run a little more timing and get a little more power.  Premium fuel (91-93) is going to get you the most power and torque due to the ability to run more timing.

The mileage tunes increase fuel economy while cruising, with no loss in wot power.  Some may notice a little bit of reduced part throttle power with the mileage tunes.

For example, on an automatic 4.0L I optimize the shift/lock schedule, so even with a 93 perf tune you will pick up a slight amount of mileage due to the improved efficiency through the trans.



I am curious about what "torque truncation" in first gear refers to.  And does this apply to a 2007 4.0 manual transmission - or just automatics ?

Thanks

(in reply to Justin00Stang)
Post #: 7
RE: 87/89/91 - 4/23/2008 4:59:50 AM   
Justin00Stang


Posts: 228
Joined: 9/13/2006
From: Orlando/Daytona Area, FL
Status: offline
Torque is limited by the PCM in 1st gear to keep the 7.5 axle from seeing too much torque.  Just manuals.

_____________________________

Justin Starkey-VMP Tuning-Custom SCT Tuning for your Mustang GT 4.6L 4.0L 3.8L
2007 Shelby GT500 697RWHP/702RWTQ
2006 Mustang 4.0 395RWHP 12.5@110, wife's car
2000 Mustang 3.8 TT 450RWHP, 10.9@127
2006 F250

(in reply to Frank Bullitt)
Post #: 8
RE: 87/89/91 - 4/24/2008 6:24:26 PM   
Frank Bullitt

 

Posts: 62
Joined: 1/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Justin00Stang

Torque is limited by the PCM in 1st gear to keep the 7.5 axle from seeing too much torque.  Just manuals.


Other than with some real abusive driving would turning off the torque truncation cause any problems for the 7.5 axle ?

Sometimes my mustang seems to want to buck or stall when taking off from dead stop.  Seems to maybe be a little worse after getting off the freeway or in stop and go traffic.  Never had this problem with my 1999 Ranger or other manual transmission vehicles.

I wonder if maybe torque truncation could have something to do with this ?

< Message edited by Frank Bullitt -- 4/24/2008 6:27:44 PM >

(in reply to Justin00Stang)
Post #: 9
RE: 87/89/91 - 4/24/2008 7:47:50 PM   
Justin00Stang


Posts: 228
Joined: 9/13/2006
From: Orlando/Daytona Area, FL
Status: offline
Probably just the really steep 1st gear.

_____________________________

Justin Starkey-VMP Tuning-Custom SCT Tuning for your Mustang GT 4.6L 4.0L 3.8L
2007 Shelby GT500 697RWHP/702RWTQ
2006 Mustang 4.0 395RWHP 12.5@110, wife's car
2000 Mustang 3.8 TT 450RWHP, 10.9@127
2006 F250

(in reply to Frank Bullitt)
Post #: 10
Login OR Register now to post a reply to this forum topic.
Page:   [1]

 

 
Mustang Forums >> Vendors & Sponsors >> VMP Tuning
Jump to:
Forum Rules & FAQ
Today's Posts
Most Active Topics
RSS Feeds
Make A Donation

Mustangs:
Classic Mustang
Mustang II
Fox Body Mustang
sn95 Mustang
New Edge Mustang
s197 Mustang
Mustang Clubs
2007 GT500 Mustang
2009 Mustang
Ford Mustang Prices


Featured Sponsors
Advertising Info

Ride of the Month
May 2008
1989 351W Hatch

Top 10 Posters
pro50sc17383
nanaki14519
dan04cobra14350
88bluegt14311
ride of the 13259
addermk213238
hotrods_n_bo13184
2000gt4.612442
mustangman0211578
1slo8511494

New Vendors
Auto Badges
Trickflow
Speedware Motorsports
LTM Global
Late Model Restoration
Southern Mustang Parts
4walls
BrandMotion
AMSOIL - Performance Oil Technology
Brenspeed's Saleen Superchargers

MustangForums.com is not affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.