im going to paint my own car soon. well it will just be primer sanded down with clear coat, just for a little while, ill take pics,but what you need is a friends thats ok at painting and all you would have to pay for is the painting supplies and the case of beer for when the job was done.
I have several and they all charge. ANd they are good. As I said my BIL owns the largest shop in the area and he wants a small fortune to do the job.
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Ed Walden ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1954 Ford F-100 312 Y-Block Built for speed/9"Rearend/Aerostar Front IFS 2006 Ford F-150 1972 Ford Mustang Grande Coupe 2002 Triumph Trophy 1200
just go to earls or something, I got a cheap paint job there for the time being, its pretty good, not professional quality but it will do for the time being until I can afford a really good one. and it was only $500 ha.
I have several and they all charge. ANd they are good. As I said my BIL owns the largest shop in the area and he wants a small fortune to do the job.
4k is still a deal. I do agree your looking for an earl shibe price on a custom job (theres no such thing). You wont find a better deal then that 4k. Save up the money and get it done right, or you will hate your car after that $300-500 job.
Yep and I know about the paint cost since I checked that already. But I found out you can buy the exact same paint and primer for hundreds less on the internet. That is what I am going to do.
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Ed Walden ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1954 Ford F-100 312 Y-Block Built for speed/9"Rearend/Aerostar Front IFS 2006 Ford F-150 1972 Ford Mustang Grande Coupe 2002 Triumph Trophy 1200
I have painted four cars and two Harley ( the bike in candy ), and the actual painting is a lot of fun to do ( I don't consider it work ). The preparation on the other hand is a pain and takes a lot of time. You do not need to spend thousands to get good painting gear. About US$300 for compressor, lines, guns and other sundries. The paint for a car should be well under US$1000. For me it works out at about US$650 - US$750 per car, that is with brand name paints, ordered on the internet.
Back in OZ some of my friends got their cars painted at the local tech college. The college needed cars to train the students on painting/bodywork. Some fine work was done by the students, and for the cost of the material is was a bargain.
As for getting the car done in Mexico, every car paint article I have read in recent years, in US magazines, has Mexican workers doing the bodywork and paint. Not sure why people would not trust them to do it when that is what you are doing in the US. I would offer a bonus on top of their quoted price if the finish is excellent. Its amazing what people will do when there is a bit extra in it for them. This works everywhere. Had a tiler do some floor work on one of my properties back in OZ. Told the actual tradesman, not the company that if the job was quickly & better than I expected, quality wise, there was a cash bonus in it for him. Paid an extra US$300 on a US$2K job but it was finished in almost half the time and really well done.
Yeah. I am talking to several independents that have large metal garages in their yard and all of them are offering references and cars for me to see what they do. After talking to 3 of them today the price is around 2K and that includes making a camaro spoiler work on my rear deck. And they all said the job would be done in less then a week. And that is with PPG paint not some off brand. I asked if they could make it a bit darker in the red and that is not a problem. THe only thing that worried me is that one of them was telling me he would take the care down to bare metal before priming while everyone else is telling me the original paint makes a good base for the primer and helps to prevent any microscopic rust. Me? I have always left the original paint on if there is good paint to bond to. What do you guys think?
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Ed Walden ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1954 Ford F-100 312 Y-Block Built for speed/9"Rearend/Aerostar Front IFS 2006 Ford F-150 1972 Ford Mustang Grande Coupe 2002 Triumph Trophy 1200
A classic Mustang with original paint? I doubt that. If you are painting over a couple of old paint jobs you have to trust all those previous shops to have done the body work, prep and paint properly. Painting over one factory paint job and you will be ok, anything more than that and you are taking a chance. If he is going to strip and paint the car for that price don't complain. Striping it is the way to go. Then you know exactly what is underneath.
To many unknowns painting over existing paint. They do it but, given the choice, I would go to bare metal. Then you see exactly what you have. If the paint lifts, no one can blame the old paint. They have some really good etching primers now, it's a no brainer!
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If it was easy, I'd be done by now! 66 V8 coupe-stock 66 FB under construction- not stock
Barring getting a MAACO paint job, which is cheap and the car will only look good for about 1 year, a good paint job will cost you at least $3,000 and up. So you should expect to pay at least that much if you plan on keeping the car.
To many unknowns painting over existing paint. They do it but, given the choice, I would go to bare metal. Then you see exactly what you have. If the paint lifts, no one can blame the old paint. They have some really good etching primers now, it's a no brainer!
No I am 100% certain the paint is original as are every single panel on the vehicle. Including the entire interior of the car except the window cranks since I bought new ones for it. They look exactly like original though. Every paint shop has also said the paint was original which goes back to why I cannot polish the car. Its so thin that anywhere there is an edge the paint is down to the light grey primer used by ford.
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Sorry the last was in response to the paint being original. Not the good painting info. Oh and I live just outside of HOuston to the south to be exact. I do not plan on paying $3000 but I am taking the car to the painter with nothing on it to remove other then the tailights and whatever is needed to drive it there. Once I get there I will remove those few items. BTW I am not painting into the door jams or anywhere where the paint is not going to be needed. They all still look like new and I am repainting the same color. There is no reason why this should cost over $2000 with the condition of the car or the amount of work that will need to be done. I am even thinking of buying the paint online and saving a few more hundred dollars since the very same paint my local paint dealer sells for $475 a gallon I can get for $300 a gallon online.
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Oh and yes I did go to Maaco and looked at thier paint jobs. Not a chance in Hell that is going to happen to my car. I have never seen such lousy paint jobs in my life and that even includes the ones the citys do to city vehicles.
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Ed Walden ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1954 Ford F-100 312 Y-Block Built for speed/9"Rearend/Aerostar Front IFS 2006 Ford F-150 1972 Ford Mustang Grande Coupe 2002 Triumph Trophy 1200
For $300 a gal, does that include reducer, because if that is just for basecoat color, you are fixing to get your head ripped off! Even if it does, you can spend that much on paint, but you don't have to. Buy paint locally, then if you have a problem, a rep can come out and possibly warranty their product. You can buy PPG at ORiellys better than that, I don't use them, but PPG is good paint. You don't have to pay retail at these autoparts stores. They have more than one price code.
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If it was easy, I'd be done by now! 66 V8 coupe-stock 66 FB under construction- not stock
Well I have read all this and some good points are made. as far as macco or similar foget it. It is a one shot deal and don't expect to ever match it if need be. I have owned my own shops over the last 45 years and painted at home. The at home thing is a problem with the dirt and other "goodies" landing in the paint, also they now have laws against it. found that out the hard way. Even if you have a booth you are still in a residential area and not"EPA" inspected. So when I went to get quotes for paint work 5K plus is the norm. Shop rates range from 80 to 100 and hour then start adding materials, I got some paint off the internet but the "mix" required a purchase by the gallon and then have extra for inside the doors and such. I hate to say it but if I was given a car primer and "ready to blow the paint" I would refuse the job for not knowing what was underneath and what could bleed through. This paint issue is why the Rat Rods have had a come back. Now the finish is "Patina" the weathered look. So I would not be shocked at 10K for an over all in and out quality job. The real problem is finding the right shop not the cost.
Not to be argumentative, dgulian, I hear what you are saying, but I think this all got started with the inability to pay $10,000 for a paint job. As for me, I live in the middle of nowhere, so the EPA is not a concern, besides I have a exhaust filter system to protect the environment. Yes, trash in the paint is a concern, but that is a problem for everyone, don't you agree? Finding any shop to paint it looks to be a problem these day's. I hit a deer with my wife's 06 explorer last Sat and it will be the first of Feb before she can even take it in. This is the kind of work they do and you have to wait, imagine how long it would take on a classic, if they would even consider doing it. I agree about the Maaco, I could do a better job in a wind storm at night!
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If it was easy, I'd be done by now! 66 V8 coupe-stock 66 FB under construction- not stock
Well back to the issue. I have not decided yet so I will go ahead and do everything but the paint job to the car. I will do more research on the paint issue to see if I can get one done for what I consider a fair price. $4000 for a paint job on a car is way to much. I mean unless you want to show it in a car show its a bit overpriced. 80 -100 an hour is way too much too. I do not know how this industry got where it is but no painter is worth that much to me. 30-60 maybe but anthing over that is just a waste of money. This is a car not a hospital patient.
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Ed Walden ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1954 Ford F-100 312 Y-Block Built for speed/9"Rearend/Aerostar Front IFS 2006 Ford F-150 1972 Ford Mustang Grande Coupe 2002 Triumph Trophy 1200
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