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hammeron -> Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 1:58:25 PM)

Post revised, with modaddicts recommendation
and ordering info:

This setup is for -10AN.


"if you want the balls best, here's the recipe... "


#5122 Stef's -10AN air/oil separator 98.00
Order on-line or call 800.418.9573
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Summit Racing:
MOR-63401 3" can bracket 6.95
SPE-3260 5/8" clamps (qty-2) 13.90
EAR-403010ERL 3ft -10 Perform-O-Flex hose 32.39
EAR-812010ERL -10 120* swivel-seal hose end 25.95
EAR-800110ERL -10 straight swivel-seal hose end 10.95

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And here are MODADDICTS thoughts, on why we need an
air/oil separator, incase you don't want to have to
read the whole thread.


Here is S197 PCV 101:

Follow this closed loop PCV system in your mind. Our cars draw air IN to the
passenger side cam cover. This air comes from the intake tube AFTER it has
passed through the MAF sensor so it has been cleaned by the air filter and
metered by the MAF meter. This air circulates through the motor and is sucked
OUT of the drivers side cam cover and into the the intake manifold BEHIND the
throttle body. This suction draws oil vapor with it from the crankcase and this oil
will contaminate the Air/Fuel mixture, create burnt oil deposits on your pistons and
valves, and put a nasty coating on your supercharger intercooler if you have one.
Not to mention shortening the life of your $90.00 spark plugs and gunking up your
throttle body not to mention other more sinister long term possibilities.

So, you put an Air/Oil separator in the line that runs from the Drivers side cam cover
to the intake manifold.
Spend the money and do it correctly! Don't skimp and get the thimble sized glass
one (like the junk steeda one posted in the thread) because it will fill too quickly
and become a maintenance issue. Don't try to save money and get a "catch can"
(like the SHM 2V one ham asked about in this thread) because it is cheaper. It will
require modification to work properly. Get a good Air/Oil separator and plumb it properly.

Now you don't have to use this parts list and some complete kits like the stefs are good
units. But if you want the balls best, here's the recipe...



  
CataclysmGT -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 2:05:36 PM)

I like that system better then the catch can.  Interesting.

hammeron -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 2:36:03 PM)

yeah i like it too, but i'm not
going to order it, until it's approved
by my technical advisor [:D]

onederful100 -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 2:38:41 PM)

maybe modaddict is fixing the fro right now[:)]

but if it is good i'm gonna order it too

hammeron -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 2:43:54 PM)

i'm ordering as soon as it gets approved

modaddict -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:04:43 PM)

That's for a 2V...[;)]

Trust me, a catch can with good SS lines and good fittings is the the way to go on our cars. Don't skimp on the lines and fittings, that's the most important!

Even if you're not seeing a lot in your TB, believe me, if you broke down your blower - you'd find tons under the manifold. Everyone FI should have a good catch can set-up IMO. It's relatively cheap and easy and just plain smart.

howarmat -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:08:39 PM)

Would you recommend the stefs?

hammeron -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:14:16 PM)

thanks m, i will take your input under
advisement [:)]

seriously tho, not the answer i was hoping for....

i guess i'll go back to the drawing board tomorrow.

moosestang -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:25:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: howarmat

Would you recommend the stefs?


I would and I don't even have it.  The Moroso can is the exact same thing and it stops 100% of the oil, but it only comes with -12AN fittings.

Whatever you do don't pay $44 for the summit racing -12 AN blue twist tight hose, it will collapse under vacuum.[:'(]

blueherd02gt -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:29:22 PM)

I've seen it (oil) in the heads too.. A modded KB with 10,000 miles looked terrible manifold down. You can't see it happening but it's there...



quote:

ORIGINAL: modaddict

That's for a 2V...[;)]

Trust me, a catch can with good SS lines and good fittings is the the way to go on our cars. Don't skimp on the lines and fittings, that's the most important!

Even if you're not seeing a lot in your TB, believe me, if you broke down your blower - you'd find tons under the manifold. Everyone FI should have a good catch can set-up IMO. It's relatively cheap and easy and just plain smart.


hammeron -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:37:40 PM)

just to clarify, incase there is confusion:

this would be mounted to the drivers side
PCV metal tube, with a small piece of hose, acting
as a barrel adapter.....


onederful100 -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:45:00 PM)

what about this one from steeda?
http://www.steeda.com/products/steeda_oil_separator.php

[image]http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/555-3710-md.jpg[/image]

moosestang -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:50:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hammeron

just to clarify, incase there is confusion:

this would be mounted to the drivers side
PCV metal tube, with a small piece of hose, acting
as a barrel adapter.....




I think that would work fine.  The rubber oring where it threads together would be my only concern, but if it's made well, and it looks to be, then it shouldn't be a problem.

blueherd02gt -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:53:16 PM)

Hammeron this is pretty much as you described.. Good post onederful100.. I forgot about steeda everyone I know has moroso



quote:

ORIGINAL: onederful100

what about this one from steeda?
http://www.steeda.com/products/steeda_oil_separator.php

[image]http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/555-3710-md.jpg[/image]

modaddict -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:54:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: howarmat

Would you recommend the stefs?


I like the stefs and it does the job okay but regardless if you use the stefs or morosso can, the real important factor is the lines and fittings. The can isn't much good if the lines are trapping at all.

Here is S197 PCV 101:

Follow this closed loop PCV system in your mind. Our cars draw air IN to the passenger side cam cover. This air comes from the intake tube AFTER it has passed through the MAF sensor so it has been cleaned by the air filter and metered by the MAF meter. This air circulates through the motor and is sucked OUT of the drivers side cam cover and into the the intake manifold BEHIND the throttle body. This suction draws oil vapor with it from the crankcase and this oil will contaminate the Air/Fuel mixture, create burnt oil deposits on your pistons and valves, and put a nasty coating on your supercharger intercooler if you have one. Not to mention shortening the life of your $90.00 spark plugs and gunking up your throttle body not to mention other more sinister long term possibilities.

So, you put an Air/Oil separator in the line that runs from the Drivers side cam cover to the intake manifold.
Spend the money and do it correctly! Don't skimp and get the thimble sized glass one (like the junk steeda one posted in the thread) because it will fill too quickly and become a maintenance issue. Don't try to save money and get a "catch can" (like the SHM 2V one ham asked about in this thread) because it is cheaper. It will require modification to work properly. Get a good Air/Oil separator and plumb it properly.

Now you don't have to use this parts list and some complete kits like the stefs are good units. But if you want the balls best, here's the recipe...

#5123 Stef's -12an air/oil separator 98.00
Shipping and Handling 14.00

Summit Racing:
MOR-63401 3" can bracket 6.95
SPE-3260 5/8" clamps (qty-2) 13.90
EAR-403010ERL 3ft -10 Perform-O-Flex hose 32.39
EAR-9892120ERL Female -12 to Male -10 reducer (qty-2) 33.50
EAR-812010ERL -10 120* swivel-seal hose end 25.95
EAR-800110ERL -10 straight swivel-seal hose end 10.95
Shipping and Handling 10.95

Total $246.59



howarmat -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 5:59:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: blueherd02gt

Hammeron this is pretty much as you described.. Good post onederful100.. I forgot about steeda everyone I know has moroso



quote:

ORIGINAL: onederful100

what about this one from steeda?
http://www.steeda.com/products/steeda_oil_separator.php

[image]http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/555-3710-md.jpg[/image]



That is basically what i have now.....but I am not boosted, i think I would upgrade for sure as that one is barely sufficient for my setup as it is now.

Thanks for your valued input MA

moosestang -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 6:08:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: modaddict


Summit Racing:
MOR-63401 3" can bracket 6.95
SPE-3260 5/8" clamps (qty-2) 13.90
EAR-403010ERL 3ft -10 Perform-O-Flex hose 32.39
EAR-9892120ERL Female -12 to Male -10 reducer (qty-2) 33.50
EAR-812010ERL -10 120* swivel-seal hose end 25.95
EAR-800110ERL -10 straight swivel-seal hose end 10.95
Shipping and Handling 10.95

Total $246.59


You can order the Stefs with any fittings you want, that way you won't need the expensive reducers.  Not to mention adding in a reducer is going to make for one long fitting.

ebr -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 6:11:55 PM)

If you wanted to vent to atmosphere with k&n pvc filters on bothsides would there be any issues besides cleaning filters and maybe your valve covers from time to time .

modaddict -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 6:15:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

quote:

ORIGINAL: modaddict


Summit Racing:
MOR-63401 3" can bracket 6.95
SPE-3260 5/8" clamps (qty-2) 13.90
EAR-403010ERL 3ft -10 Perform-O-Flex hose 32.39
EAR-9892120ERL Female -12 to Male -10 reducer (qty-2) 33.50
EAR-812010ERL -10 120* swivel-seal hose end 25.95
EAR-800110ERL -10 straight swivel-seal hose end 10.95
Shipping and Handling 10.95

Total $246.59


You can order the Stefs with any fittings you want, that way you won't need the expensive reducers.  Not to mention adding in a reducer is going to make for one long fitting.



Good point. I was just giving the the list I used as an example.

modaddict -> RE: Oil Separator - Attn: MODADDICT (1/15/2008 6:17:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ebr

If you wanted to vent to atmosphere with k&n pvc filters on bothsides would there be any issues besides cleaning filters and maybe your valve covers from time to time .


Personally, I would not do that on these cars and ESPECIALLY on a car like yours that is planning on a lot of track use...[;)]

  

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