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New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/7/2008 11:23:44 AM   
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Anyone heard word of a new engine line up for 2009? With the new camaro hitting the road in 09, I think ford needs to make some changes other than the V6 change they already have planned. Like the base GT getting a 400 hp SC 4.6 and the base Shelby getting a NA 5.4. What do you guys think?
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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/7/2008 12:39:02 PM   
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A 4.6 is going to be hard to compete against at 400hp 6.0.
But, the Camaro is going to have a hard time competing against the price point of the Stang.


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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/7/2008 1:03:30 PM   
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Is that 400hp supercharged 4.6?  No way are they going to add a supercharger to every mustang gt.  The price would skyrocket.  It's not like ford is making their own superchargers for pennies.

It'd be nice if ford could just stroke the current motor and add some forged rods while they are changing things.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/7/2008 1:25:50 PM   
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the Camaro is going to have a hard time competing against the price point of the Stang.



+1

I havent read yet, but I cant see the V-8 camaro being much cheaper than the Challenger SRT. Personally, at such a price difference, its not all fair to compare the stangs with those other two.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/7/2008 1:33:57 PM   
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Is that 400hp supercharged 4.6?  No way are they going to add a supercharger to every mustang gt.  The price would skyrocket.  It's not like ford is making their own superchargers for pennies.

It's be nice if ford could just stroke the current motor and add some forged rods while they are changing things.



I agree, it doesn't make cents

I think you may see a boost to the current 3v 4.6 with a revised head and/or revised intake as well as a remapped OEM tune and perhaps freer flowing exhaust. Should be good for an additional 50hp+ at the crank (350hp+).

Kind of like when they took the new edge mustangs and bumped the GT from 225 to 260 (35 hp) with the revised intake system or the 3.8L from 150 to 190hp with new heads and intake. It's amazing what attention to the intake and head setup does.


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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/8/2008 7:25:32 PM   
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i've heard from several sources that mustangs were getting 5.8 and 6.1L engines for 2009. not sure how accurate this info is though

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/8/2008 9:05:18 PM   
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Of course its the same ol'e deal over and over again.  Lets face it. As usual the stock camaro Will out perform the stock or- GT simply because its Built to do that.
The camaro from its inception is a mustang ripoff, the fact that gm waits until the mustang is on the road before setting goals and getting deturned engines from the vette is a 'johnny come lately' approach to so-called competing.  xactly why the camaro, although a good car, is somewhat a cheater.   NOW the problem is Ford.  FORD wants to caiter to too broad of a demographic.
And everytime they do that, (designing for women and 50year olds) they fail.  the FordGT shouldve stayed in production, beings fords TRUE sports car and flagship, which like the camaro and the vette, make the mustang a much better car- as long as ford made quality parts specific for each vehicle (WHICH they dont).   Todays mustang is still WAY to heavy for its size. And droping bigger sized engines isnt the answer.  Thats always been the american aproach, and its a foolish one.  Weight reduction is the key. (ask any racer)  the mustangs unsprung weight is horribly to much.  and screw all the talk about a short wheelbase being the problem. Porsches have been doing it for years, and theyre porportions arent that different from the stangs (abliet the engines in the back).
the mustang needs a shorter not taller. (c.o.grvity) lighter, andeven a tad wider. Even just loosing weight would make the current car SCREAM!!  the camaro is making up that xtra weight with hp per liter. but it. like all camaros will be a heavy beast too.  thats why i love saleens, theyre setup for tracks, not drag strips.   Both are great fun, but precision driving rules.  draging get boaring and VERY expensive after a while

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/8/2008 10:35:57 PM   
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Of course its the same ol'e deal over and over again.  Lets face it. As usual the stock camaro Will out perform the stock or- GT simply because its Built to do that.
The camaro from its inception is a mustang ripoff, the fact that gm waits until the mustang is on the road before setting goals and getting deturned engines from the vette is a 'johnny come lately' approach to so-called competing.  xactly why the camaro, although a good car, is somewhat a cheater.   NOW the problem is Ford.  FORD wants to caiter to too broad of a demographic.
And everytime they do that, (designing for women and 50year olds) they fail.  the FordGT shouldve stayed in production, beings fords TRUE sports car and flagship, which like the camaro and the vette, make the mustang a much better car- as long as ford made quality parts specific for each vehicle (WHICH they dont).   Todays mustang is still WAY to heavy for its size. And droping bigger sized engines isnt the answer.  Thats always been the american aproach, and its a foolish one.  Weight reduction is the key. (ask any racer)  the mustangs unsprung weight is horribly to much.  and screw all the talk about a short wheelbase being the problem. Porsches have been doing it for years, and theyre porportions arent that different from the stangs (abliet the engines in the back).
the mustang needs a shorter not taller. (c.o.grvity) lighter, andeven a tad wider. Even just loosing weight would make the current car SCREAM!!  the camaro is making up that xtra weight with hp per liter. but it. like all camaros will be a heavy beast too.  thats why i love saleens, theyre setup for tracks, not drag strips.   Both are great fun, but precision driving rules.  draging get boaring and VERY expensive after a while




The motor in the Camaro/Firebird is the same as the Corvettes it isnt detuned.  LT1=LT1  LS1=LS1  etc etc.

The f-body has just about all ways (at least for the 4th gen) got the same exact engine as the Vette. It's just that ford doesnt ever have anything to compete with it stock for stock.....Look how everything is right now ford has the 4.6 and 5.4. Chevy has the LS series engine.....and the up and comeing gen V Direct injection V8. Ford has what comeing up? (that has been announced)
Ford is even now talking about getting rid of the V8 (in most applacations) does this meen that it will be the end of the true GT Mustang?  (I hope not) But ford has been know to make alota screw ups look at when they jumped to the modular engine format. I could really see Ford putting ina Turbo V6 for the GT Stang....


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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/9/2008 10:15:25 AM   
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............Ford is even now talking about getting rid of the V8 (in most applacations) does this meen that it will be the end of the true GT Mustang?  (I hope not) But ford has been know to make alota screw ups look at when they jumped to the modular engine format. I could really see Ford putting ina Turbo V6 for the GT Stang....



I think Ford knows better than to get rid of the v8..... most people without technical knoledge or consumers that are not advanced in tech specs  (btw I dont know much myself, but enough to know this, lol) and the insides of a cars workings just know that if I buy a v8 im buying a high performacne car.... try convincing them a V6 well done will beat a V8 and theyll never believe you, but it is true. With that being said Ford always outdoes the Camaro in sales terms...  which is an area where Ford will not want to lose its advantage, thus, never will the V8 go away. But I will say this just to clear things up... that Im not bashing the Camaro.... its an excellent car just like the Mustang....without the Camaro who else would we have to beat on the track and see it in the rear-view mirror, j/k, lol.

btw.... a V6 turbo is so a European car company thing to do!

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/9/2008 12:43:02 PM   
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Derf00 is pretty close, this what I've been told. The v6 will be the same type engine as the Edge has (with a few tweeks).  Rumor; it may have a turbo (looking at around 340 hp). I don't exspect this to happen until the new v8 engines hit the road.  The v8 on the other hand for 2009 will have a new intake system with new heads with new cams.  Looking around 340hp.  But that will be just to get by until 2010 when the new engines will be the famed Hurricane engines.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/9/2008 7:07:44 PM   
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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/9/2008 8:47:47 PM   
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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/10/2008 7:40:20 PM   
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.  But that will be just to get by until 2010 when the new engines will be the famed Hurricane engines.


Actually, they aren't calling those powerplants "Hurricane", they will be known as  "Boss" engines, and the 1st one is sceduled  to debut in the next all new F-150, at 6.2 liters.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/10/2008 8:14:28 PM   
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2009's will have the same 3v 4.6L that the current Mustang's have.  We're going to have to wait out the S197 just a little bit longer.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/15/2008 11:38:09 AM   
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The last I heard there will be no 5.0L version of the 5.8L/6.2L Boss/Hurricane for the Mustang/Explorer. They will have to make do with the 5.8L version.

The Mustang cant support an engine line on its on. We will eventually get the 5.8L. When is anybodies guess.

The goal for the 5.8L is to exceed the output of the 5.7L Hemi. For those that havnt heard the target just moved. 2009 5.7L Hemi VVT 380 bhp 404 lb-ft.


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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/16/2008 6:02:17 PM   
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Hopefully Ford with make another Police Package Mustang..seein as how a few agencys around here,including highway patrol have already ordered a few Camaro's...

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/16/2008 6:06:06 PM   
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oh as far as small displacement mustangs..*cough cough* SVO *cough cough*

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/16/2008 7:06:55 PM   
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A 4.6 is going to be hard to compete against at 400hp 6.0.
But, the Camaro is going to have a hard time competing against the price point of the Stang.



chevy is not dropping a 6.0 LS2 in the new camaro.  the LS2 is "supposively" going out of mass marketing.  ive heard rumors of the LS3 6.3L stepping in but nothing is for sure yet.  theres more certainty of what the challenger is going to have.. and its coming out before the new fbody.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/17/2008 3:52:36 PM   
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so the new body style mustang will be in 2010? I thought it was supposed to be a 2009 release.

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RE: New engine line up for 2009 Mustang - 1/19/2008 7:52:03 AM   
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well the thing is that camaros have kinda always been a little faster then the mustang! i mean the biggest engine ford really has is the 5.4 but look at the price of it. camaro have the 5.7 LS1 which is a best. my brother has a z28 beats me ever time not by much but we are talking stock all we have would be cold airs..ford needs something bigger but that doesnt run at 30,000

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