Regardless of the engine specs, price point, exterior good looks they sure the heck mess up the interior enough to put anyone off from buying one. Compared to ours the gauges are cheap and ugly and tacky. The buttons and control nobs look cheap and awkward. I thought most redesigns were supposed to enspire not repel customers and should atleast look user friendly.
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You should talk, why are you on a mustang forum anyway. To keep us in check? If the new Chevy engines are what they say they are thats great, but you need to realize the only reason they are up on ford in HP is because of the larger displacement. Period. I would like to see where you get the numbers for GM getting 30mpg, link me and I will get off the topic.
I am a Mustang Owner and Love my Car, I just Like the Camaro too. I wish the Mustang had more power and better milage I hope that Ford introduces these in 2009 or 10,
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The LS2 6.0-liter V8 was pulled straight from the current Corvette. The addition of a cylinder deactivation system gets mileage close to 30 mpg on the highway, according to GM.
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Regardless of the engine specs, price point, exterior good looks they sure the heck mess up the interior enough to put anyone off from buying one. Compared to ours the gauges are cheap and ugly and tacky. The buttons and control nobs look cheap and awkward. I thought most redesigns were supposed to enspire not repel customers and should atleast look user friendly.
Did you notice the gauge in the upper left under the radio? It's a Torque Gauge and it's top range is 370 Ft Lbs Tq This is the V6.... I am sure it will not reach that but impressive
Regardless of the engine specs, price point, exterior good looks they sure the heck mess up the interior enough to put anyone off from buying one. Compared to ours the gauges are cheap and ugly and tacky. The buttons and control nobs look cheap and awkward. I thought most redesigns were supposed to enspire not repel customers and should atleast look user friendly.
Did you notice the gauge in the upper left under the radio? It's a Torque Gauge and it's top range is 370 Ft Lbs Tq This is the V6.... I am sure it will not reach that but impressive
Might just be a default gauge regardless of engine but that was supposed to be the v6...
Here's the low down on what ford plans on doing through 2010 more or less with the engines. The 4.6L itself will remain the same. Ford will simply add an Air-intake (like the aftermarket ones) and remap with a more agressive timing curve (like the aftermarket tuners already do) so HP will be 315 vs 300. 4.0L stays the same, and the 3.5 Twin turbo will be introduced. It's capable of 400+ HP
In another article of the same issue (I have it at home) There's already speculation about the death of the new Camaro because of the CAFE standards that are coming up. What's really bad for GM is that they will introduce the V8 first, then 6 months later, the V6. IMO they should release both at the same time since the V6 has always made up the majority of sales for any car of this segment (even the mustang). Doing a V8 first will simply kill off the interest for those that don't care about a V8.
GM has also dropped its plans for Super V-8's in it's Escalade and Yukon high end models settling on smaller engines with comparable output and better fuel efficiency. Vette won't be affected because it's a niche car and they can tack an extra tax onto it to ignore the CAFE standards. Dodge wasn't really mentioned in the article(s).
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Man... I'd be happy if the new 4.6 is forged at least....they don't need to be huge, just support a lot more power stock. Then we could blow the heck out of it with no worries.
1st off i am a fan of ford and gm but the chevy guys are talking about displacement being the answer to h.p. then why does a 4.6L MAKE 300HP AND A 5.7 LS1 MAKE 315-350HP. 350CID- 281CID= 69CID MORE TO MAKE 15HP. So you chevy guys think ford should go back to pushrods and raise the cid to make the same power
1st off i am a fan of ford and gm but the chevy guys are talking about displacement being the answer to h.p. then why does a 4.6L MAKE 300HP AND A 5.7 LS1 MAKE 315-350HP. 350CID- 281CID= 69CID MORE TO MAKE 15HP. So you chevy guys think ford should go back to pushrods and raise the cid to make the same power
Why start a useless argument in your first post? This thread is about the possibilties and speculation of the 2009+ engines in the Ford Mustang. Just not read the title of the thread? Did you click on this thread instead of "let's start some **** today" thread?
Sorry fellas, but blatant, useless, ignorance just pushes my buttons.
Maybe there should be a test in order to create a profile here? Maybe smarter than the keyboard, yes?
1st off i am a fan of ford and gm but the chevy guys are talking about displacement being the answer to h.p. then why does a 4.6L MAKE 300HP AND A 5.7 LS1 MAKE 315-350HP. 350CID- 281CID= 69CID MORE TO MAKE 15HP. So you chevy guys think ford should go back to pushrods and raise the cid to make the same power
Why start a useless argument in your first post? This thread is about the possibilties and speculation of the 2009+ engines in the Ford Mustang. Just not read the title of the thread? Did you click on this thread instead of "let's start some **** today" thread?
Sorry fellas, but blatant, useless, ignorance just pushes my buttons.
Maybe there should be a test in order to create a profile here? Maybe smarter than the keyboard, yes?
- C
I think ur just being an asshole yourself, you have the blatant and useless part down...what does calling out a noob do...make you feel better?
I think ur just being an asshole yourself, you have the blatant and useless part down...what does calling out a noob do...make you feel better?
Actually, yes.
If your first post can blatantly start a useless argument, especially when there are Chevy/GM fans that visit this board regularly, I think you should be called out. I apologize if my pointing at the obvious made anyone actually have to think for themselves, but posting quality, especially in your first post, should be up front and foremost in all your posts.
Honestly, I see Ford making the neccessay changes to the engine lineup and possibly adding the 3.5 v6, but that would be way down the road. The reason the 4.0 is good is becasue it is alot cheaper to produce.
That being said, kyle2k, since your post didn't effect this thread in a positive way, as you didn't really look down upon the useless GM bashing by balbert, which he came back and posted and he is fine now, you simply called me out, which I hope that makes you feel better, here's a question. Actually you know what, it's not worth it. Continue with your internet life. I'm going to drive my Shelby s197 and be proud.
Here's the low down on what ford plans on doing through 2010 more or less with the engines. The 4.6L itself will remain the same. Ford will simply add an Air-intake (like the aftermarket ones) and remap with a more agressive timing curve (like the aftermarket tuners already do) so HP will be 315 vs 300. 4.0L stays the same, and the 3.5 Twin turbo will be introduced. It's capable of 400+ HP ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm confused.... did you and I just read the same article? (I clicked on the link you provided) Because in the article I read the writer states that the 4.6 will NOT remain the same, but rather be replaced by a 5.0 that is evolving from the current 3 valve motor. They aren't just adding an aftermarket intake, (like they did w/ the latest Bullitt Mustang) The writer was talking about how Ford plans on using some of the lessons learned from the Bullitt and applying that to the new 5.0, for horsepower somewhere in the 325-350 range. So it's not as simple as them using the same 4.6 w/ a cold air intake and different tuning.
bring on the 5.0 and bring on the hp. i love ford no matter the hp arguments with chevy. they have bigger engines anyway so just looking at size of engine... of course they will have more hp. I do like the idea someone mentioned earlier of having stock forged engines because thats a huge problem with me right now if I supercharge, I will have to worry about just how far I go before i drop another 7k or so in forged parts.
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If your first post can blatantly start a useless argument, especially when there are Chevy/GM fans that visit this board regularly, I think you should be called out. I apologize if my pointing at the obvious made anyone actually have to think for themselves, but posting quality, especially in your first post, should be up front and foremost in all your posts.
Honestly, I see Ford making the neccessay changes to the engine lineup and possibly adding the 3.5 v6, but that would be way down the road. The reason the 4.0 is good is becasue it is alot cheaper to produce.
That being said, kyle2k, since your post didn't effect this thread in a positive way, as you didn't really look down upon the useless GM bashing by balbert, which he came back and posted and he is fine now, you simply called me out, which I hope that makes you feel better, here's a question. Actually you know what, it's not worth it. Continue with your internet life. I'm going to drive my Shelby s197 and be proud.
- C
ps. Peace. Love. Recycle.
I'm debating your soberness, intelligence, and lack of logic. Furthermore...internet life....are you ****ting me? who has 400+ posts? Get a job hillbilly. Don't fool yourself, if you didn't want an argument you wouldn't have said anything. I like mustangs, im not a GM troll, but as for you... Go drive your GT into a tree asshole.
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