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i jsut saw the chevy/ gm comment, c6 STFU too. you and roost are pissing testastarone (i cant spell that ****) more than a dike in a gay bar. And no, if the "ALMIGHTY" ls1 owners left there would be assholes like me to keep bitches from high fiving each other.
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roostracing people like you make the internet fun for people like me.
Who gives a **** what I drive now? Do you realize if all of the Non-Ford guys left how lame this place would be. Then who would you try to pound your chest to then?
Why not just admit that the " Why is a corvetteor LS1 owner on a mustang site " bs is your only defense?
You keep arguing that the two cars are equal and clearly they aren't.
Same track, same day, same driver and same conditions: - LS1 will have the better ET - LS1 will have the better trap speed - LS1 will have highest top speed - LS1 will get 28mpg on the trip home
So tell me again how the Mach1 is equal or better again?
I have nothing against Mach1's but people like you make it really hard not to say anything.
#1 depends on the driver #2 the mach could spin like a MF #3 yes #4 not in a f-body only in a vette
how is the mach 1 better, i could drive the mach 1 and get 28mph highway no problem, tell me how the LS is better, its not, neither engine is bad, they both kick ass, and the potential of a motor increases with the cash flow to the motor if i put 1mil into my motor and you can only put 2k not **** mine is better i had more money. roost chill the **** out dude, 1/4 mile is overrated anyway, its fun but i can teach my wife to run good times in her VW. a road course is where it takes training and **** tons of skill, 1000hp car there is good **** until a turn then better hope it can.
well im not touching the other ones, because i think you guys know where i stand on that but i will say that my TA gets good gas mileage.. i drove my car home from north of NYC where i bought it home to buffalo.. a good 375 mile trip... with 3.73's and 420rwhp it made it home with more than a 1/4 tank left... i would say thats pretty impressive
So to be here I must currently own a Mustang and no matter what common sense tells me I am obligated to side with Mustangs.
Sorry but I was here when I had my 1991 GT, 2003 GT, 2000 Camaro SS, 2002 Camaro SS and am here now owning a C6.
Do you see me saying my C6 will beat a Mach1? No
I am simply saying you are wrong to think a LS1 won't beat a Mach1, nor is it a even match 0mph to finish.
C6...i never said that a LS1 cannot beat a mach 1...in fact ive said it would be a drivers race over and over...but i have heard people say that LS1's will beat mach 1's and thats where i came into argue my point
ORIGINAL: roostracing C6...i never said that a LS1 cannot beat a mach 1...in fact ive said it would be a drivers race over and over...but i have heard people say that LS1's will beat mach 1's and thats where i came into argue my point
You Might not be 'saying that' but everything you are saying implies that is what you mean.
Everyone has said it's a drivers race in most cases with the LS1 having an advantage in the power department/up top YET you still chime in and say we are wrong and that Mach 1s are equal/better. You can keep claiming all you want...everyone else can see the numbers and decide for themselves.
Also you said you ran what I ran bone stock right?? What was your exact slip? I am willing to bet you had a better 60ft and lower trap speed. My point? I SUCK at driving yet still pulled off a Mach 1 time.
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
Haha... I can't imagine a 4V does that bad..I thought they were 26+ rated?
The best I can do with these 4.10s is 24mpg if I set the cruise at 70mph. I'm pretty sure it was probably around 26-27 with the 3.55s. I only kept the 3.55s for about a month so I never got a chance to really measure MPGs with stock gears.
ORIGINAL: roostracing C6...i never said that a LS1 cannot beat a mach 1...in fact ive said it would be a drivers race over and over...but i have heard people say that LS1's will beat mach 1's and thats where i came into argue my point
You Might not be 'saying that' but everything you are saying implies that is what you mean.
Everyone has said it's a drivers race in most cases with the LS1 having an advantage in the power department/up top YET you still chime in and say we are wrong and that Mach 1s are equal/better. You can keep claiming all you want...everyone else can see the numbers and decide for themselves.
Also you said you ran what I ran bone stock right?? What was your exact slip? I am willing to bet you had a better 60ft and lower trap speed. My point? I SUCK at driving yet still pulled off a Mach 1 time.
Why dont both of you post up those slips. For comparison puposes.
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ORIGINAL: roostracing C6...i never said that a LS1 cannot beat a mach 1...in fact ive said it would be a drivers race over and over...but i have heard people say that LS1's will beat mach 1's and thats where i came into argue my point
You Might not be 'saying that' but everything you are saying implies that is what you mean.
Everyone has said it's a drivers race in most cases with the LS1 having an advantage in the power department/up top YET you still chime in and say we are wrong and that Mach 1s are equal/better. You can keep claiming all you want...everyone else can see the numbers and decide for themselves.
Also you said you ran what I ran bone stock right?? What was your exact slip? I am willing to bet you had a better 60ft and lower trap speed. My point? I SUCK at driving yet still pulled off a Mach 1 time.
Why dont both of you post up those slips. For comparison puposes.
+1 yeah not to bad of a loss for the gear swap though.
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Wow apparently only Mach 1s are capable of 11s N/A... Ego issues up the ass to go with the blind ignorance...I am almost proud of you. You almost made thing all mustang owners were toolbags again, but luckily you are a minority on this board. ;)
1.422 10.987@119.31 <-- Current N/A Stock Internals LS1 record...
Get off your high horse...I could give a **** less what you did with your modded Mach 1... it wasn't part of the discussion.
i didnt say that either...i think you shouldve taken my advice and read carefully what i say bro...i did not say ls1's are not capable of running 11's....i did say that WHEN YOU RUN AN 11 on the stock block then argue with me...
again....10.98 @ 119 is NOT what you ran..so quit dreaming and get yours to half that...
my modded mach 1 or your 10.98 dream car was not part of the discussion either...a modded gt vs. a mach 1 was...
so to put this all to rest like i tried to do so before is....the modded GT has a really good chance of beating the mach 1....thats the purpose of this thread but SOMEWHERE along the line...some LS1 guys budded in and we are at where we are at...
for the record, i have a bunch of friends with LS1's...i have respect for them (some in the 9's) but i would not go to a ls1 forum and say that mach 1's are better than ls1's...
so, i am not on my "high horse"...i am just defending mach 1's and certain people who do not realize the time and effort it takes to get a 313 rwhp car in the 11's ESPECIALLY on the stock block....i think the fastest n/a mach 1 on record right now is a 11.10 by JTCOBRA....its a hard road to go down...a lot of trial and error...if you get your car to the 11's (maybe thats not even what you want to do with your car) then maybe you'll understand where i am coming from...i actually am a very humble guy when it comes to modding cars...regardless of what you drive...
i seriously doubt if i will have my 13.1 timeslip...that was many years ago...i do believe a have about 6-7 12.0 passes and the 11.9 pass timeslips....
ORIGINAL: roostracing i didnt say that either...i think you shouldve taken my advice and read carefully what i say bro...i did not say ls1's are not capable of running 11's....i did say that WHEN YOU RUN AN 11 on the stock block then argue with me...
I still don't get the point of that comment... Keith from HPTuners DID run 10s with a stock block and stock internals.. wasn't your comment implying that it's not possible with an LS1 but is with a 4V?? Otherwise your comment is pointless as I have ZERO plans of having an 11 second daily driver.
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so to put this all to rest like i tried to do so before is....the modded GT has a really good chance of beating the mach 1....thats the purpose of this thread but SOMEWHERE along the line...some LS1 guys budded in and we are at where we are at...
I didnt' catch the initial discussion and I apologize for the major off topic... but when I see bs I call it.
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for the record, i have a bunch of friends with LS1's...i have respect for them (some in the 9's) but i would not go to a ls1 forum and say that mach 1's are better than ls1's...
That's because it's not true.
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so, i am not on my "high horse"...i am just defending mach 1's and certain people who do not realize the time and effort it takes to get a 313 rwhp car in the 11's ESPECIALLY on the stock block....i think the fastest n/a mach 1 on record right now is a 11.10 by JTCOBRA....its a hard road to go down...a lot of trial and error...if you get your car to the 11's (maybe thats not even what you want to do with your car) then maybe you'll understand where i am coming from...i actually am a very humble guy when it comes to modding cars...regardless of what you drive...
I really have no idea why you have the need to defend what you are doing...it's modding and that's what people do... but comparing your modded / gutted car in a conversation about what a stock mach and a stock ls1 can do is pointless.
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
It had to be darkened to even get it legible (bad scanner)..but you can read the numbers...
I have actually witnessed that exact same time out of a 1998 Z28 Auto with 2.73 gears. Sometimes I wonder if those higher gears actually help cause the guy I'm speaking of would literally floor it off the line with no wheel spin. He did have the free mod on the throttle body, but other than that it was a bone stock 98 with over 100k miles on it. He was pissing me off
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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 
ls1 owners left there would be assholes like me to keep bitches from high fiving each other. 
but i will say that my TA gets good gas mileage.. i drove my car home from north of NYC where i bought it home to buffalo.. a good 375 mile trip... with 3.73's and 420rwhp it made it home with more than a 1/4 tank left... i would say thats pretty impressive
