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ORIGINAL: roostracing a corvette is not always an upgrade in my book...just cause it costs more???
Not always an Upgrade??? What the hell do you consider an upgrade?
Som people here don't like Corvettes but reguardless of that I condsider my car one hell of an upgrade from even my GTO.
IMO I'd rather have an LS2 M6 GTO over a 'Vette. You just see less of them and the few that I do are usually bone stock. Cammed/full exhaust LS2 GTO ftw...
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ORIGINAL: USMCrebel ****, **** that the internet pwnd me again anyhow the article is about a guy running an 11.4 with a 150shot and he NA time is 12.9
His N/A Time is also Modded...(Not sure what this was in reaction too exactly)....
04 mach 1 with K&N intake, off-road x-pipe, steeda mufflers (catback), electric water pump, tune and a 150 wet shot. N/A - 318rwhp - 340rwtq corrected numbers N/A time - 12.9 @ 108 w/ 1.9 60 ft (before dyno tune and electric water pump.)
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
You're kidding right? Do you really believe those are the best of the best just because you pulled them off the registry? I ran a 13.4 at 106 stock on my 3rd try. Two weeks ago, I watched a 20 year old kid take his yellow stock Mach 5spd 13.2 at 106 on hid first attempt ever at the track. Machs run mid-low 13s with the slightest amont of practice. And before you question my ET, just know I'm being very gentle with it since I inherited a few problems with the 4.10s (traction and wheel hop).
Is that what I believe?? Are you serious? I've been around a lot longer than people think... I have put this in front of people time and time again... find me a better time (stock) and I will eat everything I've said (I think people on here can attest that I've been wrong and fully admitted to it). 12 second bone stock Mach 1s don't exist.. they just DON'T (and until one does so with proof you can't even entertain it) The absolute best times I've seen anywhere were presented. I am well aware of what Mach 1s run... and it's hardly news to anyone that a mustang is easy to take down the 1/4... My friend ran his bone stock 03 GT to 13.9 @ 100mph on a 1.9 60ft on his 2nd pass at the track with it... his best in my car on the same day was 14.6 @ 98mph on a 2.4 60ft after several attempts.
You won't find an argument from me that machs are easy to get a low 13 from... to say machs are faster than that when no one has ever done it is rediculous.
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
ORIGINAL: roostracing a corvette is not always an upgrade in my book...just cause it costs more???
Not always an Upgrade??? What the hell do you consider an upgrade?
Som people here don't like Corvettes but reguardless of that I condsider my car one hell of an upgrade from even my GTO.
Well now that you finally have a car worth bragging about, post up a few photos. You were pretty Impressed with that Cobalt ss and the GTO of your. You must be creamin in your jeans now.
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Roll racing isn't racing. Its just 2 retards speeding together!
thats still in LS1 times, i think i could take a stock mach (factory) to 13.0, anyone got one they wanna let me borrow?
No one said the times weren't close...the LS1 just has more top end power and eventually pulls away. Fastest times compared the LS1 has gone 12.8xs stock... Mach 1s have been to 13.0x... so there is a small gap at the extremes but it's not enough to say ALL xx cars with beat ALL xx cars. If I lined up with a mach 1 tomorrow it would come down to driver and length of the race. End of story. I would love to see you pull a 13.0 from a stock Mach 1 but I don't know you...on this board only a few people I can think of even have a shot...Gene K seems to pull retarded times from his cars and Doodad certainly seems to know what he is doing.... myself...I bet I could do any better than a 13.3 ~ 13.4 in a mach 1 because of driver skill.
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
lol now i just need one, or a 99-01 cobra, a basic bolt on cobra went 12.450, 12.568, 12628 in the august 2007 issue of MM&FF pg 76.
Trust me no one is going to dispute they are great performers and run great times with little mods... look up bob cosby is you want to see some crazy times... he went like low 11s with bolt ons in a 4v N/A cobra.
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2001 Z28 M6 - 13.1 @ 108mph 2.1 60ft / Bone Stock (FRA / 1LE Springs - No new times yet)
ORIGINAL: roostracing a corvette is not always an upgrade in my book...just cause it costs more???
Not always an Upgrade??? What the hell do you consider an upgrade?
Som people here don't like Corvettes but reguardless of that I condsider my car one hell of an upgrade from even my GTO.
Well now that you finally have a car worth bragging about, post up a few photos. You were pretty Impressed with that Cobalt ss and the GTO of your. You must be creamin in your jeans now.
Bragging about?
Sorry but I only spoke of well known information some were just to weak to deal with facts. I never claimed my GTO was god it went 13.03 no faster, my SS/SC went 13.7 no faster. I had cars five years ago that were fatser than that.
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The C6 is pretty nice. Anyone has spent any time in one should agree on that.
In my opinion the Monaro (GTO) was intended to be a Personal Luxury Car with High Performance. It was never intended to be a pure performance car. It was intended as a Gentlemans Express. Kind of like the original T-Bird. Or maybe a poor mans CL55 AMG. I dont see it as a real competitor to the Mach 1. They really are not the same segiment in my opinion.
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You're kidding right? Do you really believe those are the best of the best just because you pulled them off the registry? I ran a 13.4 at 106 stock on my 3rd try. Two weeks ago, I watched a 20 year old kid take his yellow stock Mach 5spd 13.2 at 106 on hid first attempt ever at the track. Machs run mid-low 13s with the slightest amont of practice. And before you question my ET, just know I'm being very gentle with it since I inherited a few problems with the 4.10s (traction and wheel hop).
Is that what I believe?? Are you serious? I've been around a lot longer than people think... I have put this in front of people time and time again... find me a better time (stock) and I will eat everything I've said (I think people on here can attest that I've been wrong and fully admitted to it). 12 second bone stock Mach 1s don't exist.. they just DON'T (and until one does so with proof you can't even entertain it) The absolute best times I've seen anywhere were presented. I am well aware of what Mach 1s run... and it's hardly news to anyone that a mustang is easy to take down the 1/4... My friend ran his bone stock 03 GT to 13.9 @ 100mph on a 1.9 60ft on his 2nd pass at the track with it... his best in my car on the same day was 14.6 @ 98mph on a 2.4 60ft after several attempts.
You won't find an argument from me that machs are easy to get a low 13 from... to say machs are faster than that when no one has ever done it is rediculous.
I really think we are close to being on the same page, but with a bit of misunderstanding. I'm not speaking of THE best time a stock Mach or stock F-body has ever run. That reward would go to the LS1 no doubt. Frankly, I can't stand when people take literally one or two cars best ETs on a couple occasions (the 12.8-9 stock F-Body for instance) and use it as a weapon in this type of discussion. I also know what these Machs do on a regular basis and it is indeed mid-low 13s. The only proof I have are my own time slips and the memories of what other Mach owners have run at the same track. With mods they are all over the place just like any modded car. F-bodies average the same ETs with obvivously a lot more running low 13s than Machs. I have been the proud owner of two LS1s, and I never said they were not a tick ahead of the Mach. I can pull up good and bad times for either car, but that's not going to prove a thing. You know what you have seen and I know what I've seen. I say we agree to slightly disgaree...
ORIGINAL: roostracing a corvette is not always an upgrade in my book...just cause it costs more???
Not always an Upgrade??? What the hell do you consider an upgrade?
Som people here don't like Corvettes but reguardless of that I condsider my car one hell of an upgrade from even my GTO.
Well now that you finally have a car worth bragging about, post up a few photos. You were pretty Impressed with that Cobalt ss and the GTO of your. You must be creamin in your jeans now.
Bragging about?
Sorry but I only spoke of well known information some were just to weak to deal with facts. I never claimed my GTO was god it went 13.03 no faster, my SS/SC went 13.7 no faster. I had cars five years ago that were fatser than that.
No need to get all smartassed about it though.
Ok so no pics then.
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Roll racing isn't racing. Its just 2 retards speeding together!
You're kidding right? Do you really believe those are the best of the best just because you pulled them off the registry? I ran a 13.4 at 106 stock on my 3rd try. Two weeks ago, I watched a 20 year old kid take his yellow stock Mach 5spd 13.2 at 106 on hid first attempt ever at the track. Machs run mid-low 13s with the slightest amont of practice. And before you question my ET, just know I'm being very gentle with it since I inherited a few problems with the 4.10s (traction and wheel hop).
you think you have wheel hop problem's?
come take a ride in mine. your damn head bounce's off the roof
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2001 True Blue Cobra.............average stock 01 ;)
Spector, why the uproar man? It's a fact that Machs put down at least 280rwhp stock. It's a fact they have 325hp at the crank. Just do the % drivetrain loss thing. USMC wasn't refering to LS1s when he said watch out, he was talking to the OP.
no uproar geez, my gf isnt even that sensitive. i was actually criticizing the people who were getting all butt hurt by this thread.... i think.... i dunno. i just got back from the bar. on vacation with the lady in chicago. btw, anyone ever check out howl at the moon? cool place..... expensive tho, but thats cuz im used to cheap booze from a college town
You're kidding right? Do you really believe those are the best of the best just because you pulled them off the registry? I ran a 13.4 at 106 stock on my 3rd try. Two weeks ago, I watched a 20 year old kid take his yellow stock Mach 5spd 13.2 at 106 on hid first attempt ever at the track. Machs run mid-low 13s with the slightest amont of practice. And before you question my ET, just know I'm being very gentle with it since I inherited a few problems with the 4.10s (traction and wheel hop).
you think you have wheel hop problem's?
come take a ride in mine. your damn head bounce's off the roof
I feel for ya man, that IRS can be a bit ch. You would think a solid rear would stay planted better, but if you ever get a chance, check out the LCAs on a Mach and you'll see why. They are pathetic. The part that connects to the axle is about as big around as a #2 pencil and the other half of the arm is made out of some rubber crap. Looks just like a rubber corndog, literally!
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