USMCrebel, the last place a respectable person would temp to gather evidence from is streetfire or youtube. And remember I simply said the same holdbacks in the transmission and gears affect the GT and Mach1 equally.
And redstanger your false sense of humor is terrible. It wasn't a joke you were simply trying to imply something which was BS. Your GT just wasn't as fast as you thought it was plain and simple. And please don't bring up other sites like they want you there.
nice try for a cheap shot but you fail, that is video evidence, hard to argue that. a stock ls1 will not walk a mach 1 not even close to WALKING it. a gt with the exact same hp and gears as a mach 1 will do the same against it as a mach 1. and where would you gather info/proof in video form ? Your ls1 is a wonderful engine, but take your pick the mach 1 the 99-01 cobra, and equally powered gt, will all do the same against a stock LS1= drivers race! you should go check your facts, read LS1 sticky up top and do more HW on the 4v before running your suck, im sorry if that was harsh, but you've exhibited slight ignorance on several occasions and attempt to make your LS1 the end all engine, and its not.
By the way roostracing just because I don't have a Ford in my sig now doesn't mean I didn't have any fun in my 2003 GT or 1991 GT. I could afford to upgrade several times and did so.
My post was not directed towards you....but since you took it that way....read my post correctly...i said, "I understand if they had a mustang and a camaro"
a corvette is not always an upgrade in my book...just cause it costs more???
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel a stock ls1 will not walk a mach 1 not even close to WALKING it.
Define 'walk'... to me that means things start out equal for a short time and up top one car starts to 'walk'/pull away from the other.
Here is a list of the fastest Mach 1s listed from Mach1Registry (Including Magazine times by Evan Smith)
I placed myself in the list to show you where an LS1 falls with a full tank of gas (Full weight), bone stock and what I consider to be a bad driver. According to the results listed 4 Mach 1s exist (or have been acknowledged) that are quicker than my results. Out of those 4 I can safely say I would 'walk' all of them based on trap speeds if the race went long enough.
Please if I am taking what you said the wrong way correct me but from what I see an LS1 IS walking a stock Mach 1.
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i consider walking an ass beating, not .5 a car lead and slowly pulling. if its close its a good race...if you slowly pull 3 cars then thats an ass beating.
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I am sorry man...but not all corvettes are upgrades...
NOTICE I SAID..."NOT ALL"....that means some are but some are definately not
I get you... but no one here (well save a few) is driving anything better in handling/performance than even a base C6... that is definately an agree to disagree/different strokes for different folks kind of thing. :)
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USMCrebel, the last place a respectable person would temp to gather evidence from is streetfire or youtube. And remember I simply said the same holdbacks in the transmission and gears affect the GT and Mach1 equally.
And redstanger your false sense of humor is terrible. It wasn't a joke you were simply trying to imply something which was BS. Your GT just wasn't as fast as you thought it was plain and simple. And please don't bring up other sites like they want you there.
nice try for a cheap shot but you fail, that is video evidence, hard to argue that. a stock ls1 will not walk a mach 1 not even close to WALKING it. a gt with the exact same hp and gears as a mach 1 will do the same against it as a mach 1. and where would you gather info/proof in video form ? Your ls1 is a wonderful engine, but take your pick the mach 1 the 99-01 cobra, and equally powered gt, will all do the same against a stock LS1= drivers race! you should go check your facts, read LS1 sticky up top and do more HW on the 4v before running your suck, im sorry if that was harsh, but you've exhibited slight ignorance on several occasions and attempt to make your LS1 the end all engine, and its not.
Come on there kiddo think it through.
What is the one thing that 99% of Mustang GT owners do to help it along in the 1/4?
And the answer is: GEARS
Sorry pal but a 280whp GT can mean a bunch of things and can be achieved many ways.
Simply put a geared to hell 280whp GT will loose to a stock 280whp Mach1. Even with heads, cams and an intake the SOHC just won't make the all the way to redline power like the DOHC. Add in all of the excess shifting and it doen't take much to see how this works.
A 280whp Mach1 will be a drivers race for a LS1 with a small advantage to the LS1.
By the way roostracing just because I don't have a Ford in my sig now doesn't mean I didn't have any fun in my 2003 GT or 1991 GT. I could afford to upgrade several times and did so.
ok we know the stock GT blows, this is about how he would do with a mach, i was just saying, i see a GT with 287rwhp keeping up with and possibly beating a stock ls1.
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ORIGINAL: USMCrebel a stock ls1 will not walk a mach 1 not even close to WALKING it.
Define 'walk'... to me that means things start out equal for a short time and up top one car starts to 'walk'/pull away from the other.
Here is a list of the fastest Mach 1s listed from Mach1Registry (Including Magazine times by Evan Smith)
I placed myself in the list to show you where an LS1 falls with a full tank of gas (Full weight), bone stock and what I consider to be a bad driver. According to the results listed 4 Mach 1s exist (or have been acknowledged) that are quicker than my results. Out of those 4 I can safely say I would 'walk' all of them based on trap speeds if the race went long enough.
Please if I am taking what you said the wrong way correct me but from what I see an LS1 IS walking a stock Mach 1.
Are these guys stock? If they are stock, their times are in line with most Machs, or at least what most Machs should be doing. That's a pretty tight race with most Ls1s in the 1/4. Btw, walking to me means a steady pull, like pretty bad, like a Z06 to a 03 Cobra bad.
wihtout your jiuce your toast. even with your 4.10's machs are under rated by 10-15 hp and about 10ftlb, they throw 320-325 at the crank, thats what 280rwhp stock, with a cat back and intake and chip/tune he's sitting on 300rwhp with the 3.55's you'll pull slightly on him until about 70-90, and then he will catch up and beat you to 120+, but if he's auto not stalled or anything like that have fun, if he's manual get ready, and you better know how to drive your ass off.
because I know that if I had a chip I would make sure to also tune it just to make sure I wasted every cent spent on that chip
the guys on the mach boards arent event his cavalier about the cars. Groundpounder if any of u remember him, added an xpipe, and intake to his car, and the mach1 registry guys said to look for 280ish.
I think this is a good race, and id even give the edge to the OP with his trap speed depending on where he is. around here Mach's dont trap that.
Spector, why the uproar man? It's a fact that Machs put down at least 280rwhp stock. It's a fact they have 325hp at the crank. Just do the % drivetrain loss thing. USMC wasn't refering to LS1s when he said watch out, he was talking to the OP.
ORIGINAL: Stone629 Are these guys stock? If they are stock, their times are in line with most Machs, or at least what most Machs should be doing. That's a pretty tight race with most Ls1s in the 1/4. Btw, walking to me means a steady pull, like pretty bad, like a Z06 to a 03 Cobra bad.
Saying these guys are 'on par' with what all machs should do is like saying that Evan smiths 12.8 and 12.9 passes are on 'par' with what every LS1 should do. Those are the 'best of the best' times I can find anywhere.
And as mentioned I had a different take on what 'walk' means...I get what you guys are saying given your definition of 'walk' its not like an LS1 just rips away from a Mach 1... but an LS1 should pull away none the less. (2 ~ 3mph difference in the 1/4 is huge in my book)....
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You're kidding right? Do you really believe those are the best of the best just because you pulled them off the registry? I ran a 13.4 at 106 stock on my 3rd try. Two weeks ago, I watched a 20 year old kid take his yellow stock Mach 5spd 13.2 at 106 on hid first attempt ever at the track. Machs run mid-low 13s with the slightest amont of practice. And before you question my ET, just know I'm being very gentle with it since I inherited a few problems with the 4.10s (traction and wheel hop).
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V-6 is for real drivers. Go buy a Jetta if you want gas mileage and a chicks car. Buy a V-8 Mustang if you have no driving ability and need the extra horsepower to compensate and feel like you''''''''re fast.
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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 
? Your ls1 is a wonderful engine, but take your pick the mach 1 the 99-01 cobra, and equally powered gt, will all do the same against a stock LS1= drivers race! you should go check your facts, read LS1 sticky up top and do more HW on the 4v before running your suck, im sorry if that was harsh, but you've exhibited slight ignorance on several occasions and attempt to make your LS1 the end all engine, and its not. 
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