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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 8:21:53 AM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 8:32:47 AM   
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against the mach 1 without juice its gonna be close until bout 80mph is my guess

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 9:01:40 AM   
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i have 373s with mickey thompson et streets.  the 13.3 run was on nittos with a 2.0 60ft i belive and i pill 1.8s all day with the mickeys.  hopefully i could pull another tenth or 2 out of her.   as for the mach driver, not like this should have anything to do with his driving ablilities but he was askin me my mods and i told him i had a 100 shot so i said im pretty confident i could beat him, them he goes"but its a 4v not a 2v" like thats supposed to matter or somethin? plain and simple, i make a but load more hp then him and have suspension mods plus sticky tires. on the bottle he is done.  he just didnt seem to birght to me...

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:00:52 AM   
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I know 4Vs respond damn well to mods, but with just a chip and a catback (OP didn't confirm the intake) to 300RWHP?  I'd figure closer to 280RWHP.


Machs put down  over 280rwhp stock.


Any proof?  That's saying they are underrated severely and make maybe 340-360 at the crank, which I don't believe.

I found an article that states about 265-270 at the wheels, bone stock.

Found a video.  Made 271 on a Mustang Dyno.

dang



Proof? Yea, I could (and will if you insist) go on youtube and pull up several dyno pulls showing Machs putting down +280rwhp bone stock. Motertrend did a test on the Mach and proved that they were underated and were putting out 325hp at the crank. Take a high 14% drivetrain loss and you have 280rwhp. There is a guy in the Mach section that put down like 291rwhp with just an exhaust, headers, and a CAI, no tune. Just say that he picked up 15rwhp from those mods without tuning, that would put him at 280rwhp if he were stock. Another Mach owner posted in the Mach section that he pulled 293/299 with high fow cats and weld in flowmasters. Like I said, it will be a good race judging by the OP's ETs, but only from a dig. The Mach will pull him up top.

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:02:24 AM   
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if your on the giggle gas, you stomp his ass. if your not and he can drive, flip a quarter......there are a bunch of guys around here that dont know **** about cars, but they can drive the piss outta a car.

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:04:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

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ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

I know 4Vs respond damn well to mods, but with just a chip and a catback (OP didn't confirm the intake) to 300RWHP?  I'd figure closer to 280RWHP.


Machs put down  over 280rwhp stock.


Any proof?  That's saying they are underrated severely and make maybe 340-360 at the crank, which I don't believe.

I found an article that states about 265-270 at the wheels, bone stock.

Found a video.  Made 271 on a Mustang Dyno.

dang




271 rwhp on a mustang dyno is like 285-290 on a regular dyno jet...mustang dyno #'s are lower



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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:05:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 99GTvert

I know 4Vs respond damn well to mods, but with just a chip and a catback (OP didn't confirm the intake) to 300RWHP?  I'd figure closer to 280RWHP.


Machs put down  over 280rwhp stock.


Any proof?  That's saying they are underrated severely and make maybe 340-360 at the crank, which I don't believe.

I found an article that states about 265-270 at the wheels, bone stock.

Found a video.  Made 271 on a Mustang Dyno.

dang




271 rwhp on a mustang dyno is like 285-290 on a regular dyno jet...mustang dyno #'s are lower





I was well aware of that.


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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:08:01 AM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.



That's not a cool thing to say man. Very narrow-minded statement.
Is the based on the sole fact that you know a couple of bad Mach Drivers? Just wondering..

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:11:42 AM   
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well...here is a good mach 1 driver  11.93 @ 114 mph on a STOCK uncracked mach 1 motor


if you know what you have and are a good driver...than you should be able to drive ANYTHING

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:19:44 AM   
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well...here is a good mach 1 driver  11.93 @ 114 mph on a STOCK uncracked mach 1 motor


if you know what you have and are a good driver...than you should be able to drive ANYTHING

what do you mean by stock, b/c thats not a sstock car on stock tires.


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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:23:11 AM   
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http://mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2860

those are the 1/4 mile times for the mach 1 registry.


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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:34:12 AM   
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yup...i believe i'm number 8 on that list...

i dont think stock tires would help in getting to the 11's man...

stock MOTOR....i'll tell ya my bolt ons for power: pulleys, cold air kit, headers, full exhaust, sct tune....that equals to 313 rwhp

full suspension + good driver + MINOR weight reduction = 11.93 @ 114 mph



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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 11:46:07 AM   
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yup...i believe i'm number 8 on that list...

i dont think stock tires would help in getting to the 11's man...

stock MOTOR....i'll tell ya my bolt ons for power: pulleys, cold air kit, headers, full exhaust, sct tune....that equals to 313 rwhp

full suspension + good driver + MINOR weight reduction = 11.93 @ 114 mph



no im saying that the car isnt bone stock, stock is the way it comes from the factory IE tires engine tune, suspension. not pulley's, cai,headers and all that other crap. there is no mach 1 from the factory running under 12.5 STOCK, and i think thats a stretch too.


number 45 on the list, nice run 11.9


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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 12:31:52 PM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.




You never beat one credible LS1 ever.

The same cars you beat got beat by stock LT1's and Mustang GT's with 260whp. They all had issues be it high miles and low maintainance or a **** driver.  

And you really should take a look at a F-Body beside a Mustang or on a scale. There the same size and almost the same weight. 

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:12:13 PM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.




You never beat one credible LS1 ever.

The same cars you beat got beat by stock LT1's and Mustang GT's with 260whp. They all had issues be it high miles and low maintainance or a **** driver.  

And you really should take a look at a F-Body beside a Mustang or on a scale. There the same size and almost the same weight. 


you mean cuz it wasnt yours

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:14:17 PM   
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yeah like 100lbs or less diffrence,
i just ignored his gt beating an fbody, but what do you consider credible, if its an ls1 its still and ls1 regardless of what beats it, how well the driver/owner kept it up makes a diffnrece, but no in the outcome of his race


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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:14:51 PM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.



That's not a cool thing to say man. Very narrow-minded statement.
Is the based on the sole fact that you know a couple of bad Mach Drivers? Just wondering..


Yep well most/all around here. Is that better stated or do i have to butter it up for ya.

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:21:20 PM   
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ive race a hand full of ls1's with my full bolt on gt (old old setup). Never lost. i never raced past mid 4th gear either. I only had 282rwhp with a 2v 4.6L. people will say they werent drove right/running right. I had drag suspension so i could pull so hard out of the hole shot. yeah they have the 130mph+ speed capibility but who cares. I also see a lot of people that say they stuff is better because its theres. Most/all MACH1's drivers dont know how to drive though. I just hate it when people think LS1/f-body's are not the end all engine/car. In my opinion i hate the boat looking f-bodys.



That's not a cool thing to say man. Very narrow-minded statement.
Is the based on the sole fact that you know a couple of bad Mach Drivers? Just wondering..


Yep well most/all around here. Is that better stated or do i have to butter it up for ya.


You can butter it up all you want, but it's still a B.S. statement. How someone can sterotype an entire group of car owners is beyond me.

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:36:58 PM   
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calm down stone, ignorance is just jealousy 

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RE: how would i do against a mach 1 - 1/7/2008 1:43:57 PM   
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calm down stone, ignorance is just jealousy 


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