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[QUOTE=hurleyboarder21]man, u have a Z06 corvette man, and arnt u gettin a saleen? thats alot of money for speed too. how much did u spend on your Z06? and your saleen? Money = Horsepower. i love both imports and domestics. i have a 88 gt, and a 96 gsx eclipse turbo. right now the eclipse can pull hard on my gt. the eclipse might even give you a lil trouble. i know alot of people who can take gt's on the road, and i know alot of gt's have no trouble with "rice" and "corn". haha, whats even more funny is when people get smoked by a ford taurus. haha[/QUOTE]
the eclipse give my Z06 trouble??? HA! Not unless you have 10 grand under that hood!!! I hate to sound like a pr**k, but man, have you ever ridden in a 2002 Z06 Corvette? One ride and you will never say that your 96 gsx eclipse will give me trouble. I just can't see your gsx doing anything but getting embarrassed by racing a Z06. Hate to sound like this, but it's the truth for goodness sake!
[QUOTE=hurleyboarder21]man, u have a Z06 corvette man, and arnt u gettin a saleen? thats alot of money for speed too. how much did u spend on your Z06? and your saleen? Money = Horsepower. i love both imports and domestics. i have a 88 gt, and a 96 gsx eclipse turbo. right now the eclipse can pull hard on my gt. the eclipse might even give you a lil trouble. i know alot of people who can take gt's on the road, and i know alot of gt's have no trouble with "rice" and "corn". haha, whats even more funny is when people get smoked by a ford taurus. haha[/QUOTE]
the eclipse give my Z06 trouble??? HA! Not unless you have 10 grand under that hood!!! I hate to sound like a pr**k, but man, have you ever ridden in a 2002 Z06 Corvette? One ride and you will never say that your 96 gsx eclipse will give me trouble. I just can't see your gsx doing anything but getting embarrassed by racing a Z06. Hate to sound like this, but it's the truth for goodness sake!
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I know a GSX than ran a 10.7 that would own your Z06.
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Ok, and how much money was spent on that gsx? I never said a gsx couldn't outrun a Z06. Anything can outrun a Z06 with money invested in it! Like every racer knows, money=horsepower. I can go buy a new cobra, spend $1199 on it, and eat my Z06 for lunch. But you know what? When all is said and done, that guy is still driving a piece of sh*t eclipse. No matter what he does to it, or how fast it is, it will always be a piece of sh*t eclipse import. Don't know about you, but I'd rather drive something with a lot better reputation for racing such as a Mustang or a Z06 corvette, even a Viper! Anything other than an import!
Well, the GSX was purchased for about 40 thousand less than what you spent....He prob put about 5 grand into it....Its sort of sad to watch these mustangs and vettes go down to some "ricer". Well to get back to you story....
Lets say your z06 costed you 50 grand (im not sure how much they actually go for new). Lets say he got his eclipse for 5 grand and put 7 grand into it....so 12 grand.....so what do you have to show for that other wasted 38 grand of yours? I guess you get the honor of saying you own a corvette, and you get to tell your buddies how much rwhp your making...
I think we should respect the ricers in eclipses, hondas, etc....I could see maybe a vette owner or mustang cobra owner talking trash, but sometimes i see v6 and gt owners running their mouths.......98 gt's cant even break 15's stock........but anyways dont hate on the 4 bangers
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I love domestics, but I respect any car that can move. It's easy for a 'vette or a Cobra to run fast, but try making a 4 cyl Honda run in the 12's and 13's. They win my respect.
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Well, the GSX was purchased for about 40 thousand less than what you spent....He prob put about 5 grand into it....Its sort of sad to watch these mustangs and vettes go down to some "ricer". Well to get back to you story....
Lets say your z06 costed you 50 grand (im not sure how much they actually go for new). Lets say he got his eclipse for 5 grand and put 7 grand into it....so 12 grand.....so what do you have to show for that other wasted 38 grand of yours? I guess you get the honor of saying you own a corvette, and you get to tell your buddies how much rwhp your making...
I think we should respect the ricers in eclipses, hondas, etc....I could see maybe a vette owner or mustang cobra owner talking trash, but sometimes i see v6 and gt owners running their mouths.......98 gt's cant even break 15's stock........but anyways dont hate on the 4 bangers
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Ok, let me tell you something man. First of all, if you buy a piece of sh*t GSX for 5k, then there's no way it's set up for all the power adders you would put on it to outrun a Z06. And hold on... you're not playing fair. You're comparing the price of a new vette to the price of a used eclipse. ok, lets compare used to used. You can now buy a Z06 for around 30k. So compare a 5k eclipse with that price, not 50k. Ok, that's settled. Now, whoever told you you can put 7k in a 5k eclipse is full of sh*t. If you bought that car for 5k, that must mean that it's a piece of crap, therefore a total motor rebuild. Nitrous-(although it's the p*ssy power adder) would be needed, slicks, (I was going to say gears, but I forgot those piece of sh*t FWD's don't have them!!! lol) Nah, there's no way you're going to spend 7k and have a eclipse outrunning a Z06. And besides, all I have to do is put slicks on the Z, and get a good run and I'll be touching the 11's. What do stock eclipse's run? 16? 17? HA! Don't expect to spend even 10k and get 5 seconds out of it, because you will be really disappointed! Just face it, imports will never be what american muscle is. Give it up. God I hate imports!!!
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I doubt you even own a 'vette. Most 'vette owners I know don't have to brag. They know they're cars are hot and they don't have to talk trash. You on the other hand give a new meaning to the word 'insecurity'. You probably drive a four door Civic.
Grow up and accept the fact that anyone, even a 'vette can get beat. I've got 3k in my Mustang, for another 3, I could beat you easy. So what?
New to the board. I currently own a 2000 Trans Am Ram Air (stock) and a modded 2001 Toyota Celica GT-S. I love both import and domestic. Id have to say a domestic could easily romp over any import about 85% of the time. Adding intake, exhaust, and headers on an import would give it like 30-40hp. Whereas domestics respond to mods a lot better than an import. But i still like the way my Celica looks. Id have to say overall, the celica is a better car. It has a nice sleek interior, a very nice shiftbox, pretty smooth ride, and a very reliable and well built car. Looks wise, i think my celica looks better than my ram air. Ive got a very nice body kit on it, sitting on some tight 18" rims. It doesnt have any neons, graphics, altezzas, or any large gay ass spoiler. its a real clean import. In the next year i am planning on getting a turbo kit for my celica, and customizing the interior a bit so i can enter it into some car shows. I would love to put money in my TA, but imports these days are pretty much taking over. i just like the way you can customize an import to the way you want it. My Trans Am is all stock but havent lost to any ricers. The only imports ive lost to was a Supra TT, an RX-7, and a 300ZX-TT. Those are some pretty quick cars modded. Those are like the muscle cars of imports. I give much respect for those cars.
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ok, new to the board but here's my take. I have a 1990 Nissan 300ZX twin turbo, usual mods, exhaust,intake, you know the usual bolt on stuff (though it takes pulling the engine damn near any time I want to mod it). I have had the car 6 years, very fast, BUT I just recently (this past weekend) purchased a 2000 Mustang GT. It was time for a car that didn't take a million dollars to make it go fast.I won't say imports suck, they don't. I can't see what the whole anti-import thing is all about. Now I see the civics and neon lights and a hundred stickers of parts that they usually have. Domestic guys do that but not as much(or so I have seen). The import handles WAAAAY better, but boy do I love the low end torque and rumble of V-8 exhaust! So, selling the Z and buying a ton of stuff for the Stang'. Gonna be fun. So I guess I have joined what was considered the enemy. Gonna take a bit to crush some supra's and Z's though, but certainly not an old GSX, forget about it.
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The thing that pisses me off the most is how the f-ing imports are taking over. There everywere. I have seen some rice cars that look pretty hot. Like the other day i was driving down the street, and i saw some black rice car that was so custom i didnt know what kind of car it was. I think it was a Celica, but im not sure. But the thing is, is that all of these ricers (its really bad here in Oregon) dont spend money on making them fast. Its all about looks to them.I know down in Cali there is a lot of ricers that can go fast, but up here all people care about is looks. And that pisses me off. Thats one of the great things about a muscle car, they come fast, so you dont have to worry about making them fast right away. Work on the body, then make them even fast. Buying a muscle car gives you a step up in the game, there already fast and they already look good. Imports take a lot more time, and a lot more money to bring up to par, so whats the point?
[QUOTE=67gt500]The thing that pisses me off the most is how the f-ing imports are taking over. There everywere. I have seen some rice cars that look pretty hot. Like the other day i was driving down the street, and i saw some black rice car that was so custom i didnt know what kind of car it was. I think it was a Celica, but im not sure. But the thing is, is that all of these ricers (its really bad here in Oregon) dont spend money on making them fast. Its all about looks to them.I know down in Cali there is a lot of ricers that can go fast, but up here all people care about is looks. And that pisses me off. Thats one of the great things about a muscle car, they come fast, so you dont have to worry about making them fast right away. Work on the body, then make them even fast. Buying a muscle car gives you a step up in the game, there already fast and they already look good. Imports take a lot more time, and a lot more money to bring up to par, so whats the point?[/QUOTE]
I agree that muscle cars come fast and that there are alot of import owners who make real import fanatics look like ricers. Even though there are alot of hondas with neon lights and altezzas, I have see a good deal of mustangs and cavaliers(espicially), that are all riced out...Dont be ignorant and think its only the import crowd....
People buy imports for many reasons. Probably the number one reason is the reliability is unbelievable. Technology has come so far in the past 10-15 years, and it shows greatly through 4 cyl engines that are being brought over to the United States. While the power is usually not on par with domestics, gas mileage is great and the fact that one can go over 200,000 miles usually without and major repairs is great. I for one can't afford to be throwing my money into a car constantly for repairs.
The bottom line is you should respect all kinds of cars - Every car has its own personality which makes the automotive industry as popular as it is today. While speed is important, I like 99% of America do not buy cars for only straight line power...Alot of domestics that are 30 k or under do not have the greatest handling - Mustangs, Camaros,etc. Just respect all cars....If we could be adults this wouldnt be such a problem
Every car has their pros and cons. There is so much stuff i can do too my Celica to make it look nice, whereas my Trans Am is all about performance. 67gt500, you said to buy a muscle car because its fast and then doing stuff to the body?? what can i do to a body of a Trans Am?? i cant put a body kit or 18" ten spoke rims. What exterior work would you do to a mustang?? Putting a body kit on a mustang, isnt that a little ricey?? I love the Saleen kit, but to put it on a v6 or GT?? As for rims, the only rims you can get are muscle car type rims. I would keep mustangs a stock look. Adding anything else would make it too ricey. And i dont at all think imports are crappy. They are a lot slower, but overall are a better car. Built better, Last longer, more reliable, and a lot more advanced in technology. I read somewhere that the engines on imports are about 4-5 years ahead in technology then domestics. Look at a Honda S2000, its a 4 banger pushing out 240hp. Thats pretty damn good for a 4 banger. My Celica has Variable Valve Timing Intelligence with Lift, kinda like the VTEC of Hondas. Whereas domestics dont have that. All im saying is that imports are way more advanced in all categories of a car compared to domestics. So believe me, they arent pieces of s**t.
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I'm just saying your going to put a lot more money into rice to make it up to par with muscle. And I dont belive you ca "rice" out a muscle car. Rice and muscle do not go togther. They call it rice because its Asian, they call it muscle because its american. You can put mods on a muscle car, but its not ricing it out. I do respect those people that spend thousends of dollors on imports ( gods knows i wouldnt). I just prefer an american muscle car.
And dont bring up that "lets all be adults here" s**t, age has nothing to do with this. I fell i handeld this as an adult, i was simple stating my opion, and you were stating yours. so i dont know where you got off thinking i was going about this in an unmature manner.
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its cheaper to upgrade an import compared to domestic.... my friend has a civic.. and we compare the prices of parts.. and how much performance comes out of both.......
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ya, but it would take a s**t load of mods, and a lot of money to slap a v8 in a 4 bangger. and all the little mods here and there to give the ricer a boost in hp, u can turn around and do all that to a muscle car, that already has a v8. and i have looked, the little thing to add a bit of hp, are the same price for muscle and rice.
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