no, I'm just saying... like in all cars, displacement/speed isn't always the determining factor. If displacement was the biggest factor, you wouldn't get a Mustang... you'd get an F-body.
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if displacement was the only thing, i would get a 90 lx notchback with a 351 windsor, stroker kit, worldclass tranny and be doing wheel stands all day... i am happy with my 281 and although small, sounds great, pretty fast, handles like a dream, and looks a lot better than a f-body(my opinion) but to each his own..
I don't think my car is ugly at ALL... And I happen to think a WS6 T/A looks better than ANY modern Mustang. And F-body guys say ya'll have tiny engines too. Ya'll (99+ GTs) are farther back from them speedwise than I am to ya'll... just something to think about.
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yeah, a car that looks like a pig is so much better looking than current gt's. bull s**t. f-body guys are tools. they cost an assload more. the mustang gt is about cheap economical v8. f-body is about gm being fools who committed suicide on the performance market.
You do realize that the only reason the Mustang outsold the F-body is that the SN95 redesign appealed to women more, right? That's the whole reason the Probe was cancelled. They were gonna axe the Mustang in the early 90s, but decided to wait for public reaction for the SN95 bodystyle. It was a hit. Now some people will say that the average buyer for the Mustang is a 40-50yr old male. You would be right. But guess who they buy them for?
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i'm not talking about outselling. i'm talking about they got overpriced trying to be all out. and you know what? SN95 looks like ass, i don't care who it was intended for. and you know what? i know mustang lx's are girl cars. but guess what. who here actually wants to own one when they could get a gt? i see no hands raised. actually hell, why should i argue it, im glad mustangs are a "girl car". 1, it keeps the good ones coming out for performance enthusiasts. 2, it pisses people off when they get spanked by one.
I don't get pissed off on the rare occasion that I lose to a Mustang, cuz I don't pick fights with those that I know are gonna beat me. Did beat a '96 Cobra in the 1/8 once though. 9.7 to his 9.9... he launched badly. He did trap 9mph higher than me though. And he ended up running a 14.6 to my 15.0 I believe.
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[QUOTE=BlackmagiCL_S] If it was an LS or a GS you would own it in your V6. If it was a GS-R then it has 200 ponies and is pretty darn quick for a 1.8L engine. Evenly matched I'd say. The V6 Mustang isn't slow but it could be geared better I think. The type-R (also (1.8L) is DAMN quick because it is so light. and it comes with factory mods) They usually have funky spoilers (assuming it was rolling and you can't see the rims) and they are a dumb color like Yellow. They screw. A GT will take them but it would be a good race. Off the line, the GT has it, on the highway the type R will play. Never saw "that" race so can't say who would win.
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Actually a GS-R only has 170hp and what kind of mods do they have from the factory??? None. Oh and what about yellow stangs???? Is it ok for domestics to make yellow? Stop talking out your ass... I have a friend that has a 2001 type r and bone stock he runs 14.4's...
[QUOTE=BlackmagiCL_S] If it was an LS or a GS you would own it in your V6. If it was a GS-R then it has 200 ponies and is pretty darn quick for a 1.8L engine. Evenly matched I'd say. The V6 Mustang isn't slow but it could be geared better I think. The type-R (also (1.8L) is DAMN quick because it is so light. and it comes with factory mods) They usually have funky spoilers (assuming it was rolling and you can't see the rims) and they are a dumb color like Yellow. They screw. A GT will take them but it would be a good race. Off the line, the GT has it, on the highway the type R will play. Never saw "that" race so can't say who would win.
Good luck with your car.[/QUOTE]
Actually a GS-R only has 170hp and what kind of mods do they have from the factory??? None. Oh and what about yellow stangs???? Is it ok for domestics to make yellow? Stop talking out your ass... I have a friend that has a 2001 type r and bone stock he runs 14.4's...
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Yeah... I have a GS-R; 170hp. And since when are black, white, and yellow dumb colors? Cuz that's all the Type R has EVER been offered in. Either one would spank a V6 if properly driven (even a 99+ with light mods), and both either beat 94-98 GTs (some GS-Rs and all Type Rs), or give them a run for their money (most GS-Rs)
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The V6 Mustangs "Phony Ponies" are slow as hell. But they are also heavy. When I had my GXE automatic Sentra I raced a 99+ conv. w/ auto and we stayed about even the whole way up to 80. Keep in mind my Sentra ran a 16.9 1/4 mile. It weighed 2650 and has 126 hp at the crank.
[QUOTE=Jugador]bingo. f bodies dont look good and theyre much more expensive too.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed that line...the mere fact that a new Z28 was 22.5k and a new GT was 24.5k completely discredits this post...especially since the Z would destroy a GT.
Reading over this I found quite a bit of inaccuracies in the posts...but since it's over 7 months old, I'll let it all go...
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GSR dude you took the words out of my mouth the type r's dont even hit 200 horse stock just there power two weight ratio is wicked.Me personally i walk on most gsr's.I have a good freind with a 96 civic coupe (wich weighs less than a integra from the get go)he has a jdm b18c wich most of you know is a gsr motor.he has a dc sports header greddy evo exhaust and type R tranny.I have a 94 gt 5 spd and he gives me a serious run.Although he has never beaten me he stays less than a car behind me all the way to 110. The point is some rice aint no joke. P.s. i am a recover ricer......99 sentra se-l 5 spd almost did the sr20det swap but traded for my stang.
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gsr takes any sn95 stock for stock (not cobra) .
also i dont think a gsr motor is a b18c, i might be wrong, and if it is a gsr motor your friend should kill you with his mods, unless he starts in 2nd gear.
you wont get lower than mid 15s with a stock 94 gt(period!)
stock 94 up gsr's can break into the 14s with practice.
JDM GS-R, which is called the Si-VTEC, or SiR-G is the B18C. The USDM GS-R has the B18C1. And 94GTchris, what mods do you have for him not to walk you like a dog?
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Poll.. Who on here cares about a B18 engine? I know I dont, its less than 1/3rd of my engine, and no it wont come close to me wihtout alot of money. So who cares, lets vote.
Oh yeah no ofense GSR and Own3d. It is about stangs after all isnt it? IIts kinda rare I tell everyone here how to build a Pontiac or an LS1, just how they run so maybe you guys have a benchmark or know not to mess with certain types, cause damn 11's with bolt ons? My car wouldnt even do that. I had to build an entire engine and then get it to hook. I do like my buddys 03 Cobra, its rather interesting and needs some slicks.
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[QUOTE=Jugador]bingo. f bodies dont look good and theyre much more expensive too.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed that line...the mere fact that a new Z28 was 22.5k and a new GT was 24.5k completely discredits this post...especially since the Z would destroy a GT.
Reading over this I found quite a bit of inaccuracies in the posts...but since it's over 7 months old, I'll let it all go...
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i was mainly talking about SS's since they went for an insane 30k most of the time
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