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HIONPSI
03-17-2005, 05:28 AM
Just thought I would drop a few video's here for you guy's. The first two vids is of my car on last years mods... back then I was putting down 250hp and 350 ft lbs.

http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=FREDS-GTP-VS-MACH-1.mpeg


http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=Cobrapulls.wmv

http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=gtp_vs_cobra.mov

http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=GTP_vs_Mustang_GT__1_.mpeg

http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=GTPvsMUSTANG.wmv

Mach1
03-17-2005, 05:49 AM
WOW! thanks!

InfernoKron
03-17-2005, 10:04 AM
Nice car man. What mods are you running and how much power are you putting down right now?

By the way, is there any way I can spot a GTP modded similarly before I try and race one so I don't get surprised? :)

RollinThunder
03-17-2005, 02:22 PM
damn back then u were putting down 350tq 2 the wheels? thats impressive...how much u putting down now??

HIONPSI
03-17-2005, 05:43 PM
MOst GTPer's get a gauge pod. That is a good way to tell that they are modded. It won't, fortunately ;), tell you how modded. Other things to listen for.... the louder the supercharger, the smaller the pulley in most cases (more boost). Other than that, just the regular things, listen for a cam etc...

Yes I was putting down 350ft lbs to the ground... it's the blower... having 100ft lbs more torque than hp is normal. This is before the N2O and half the mods below.

I have a pretty long mods list at this point. The major things are:

Race tranny with 3.69's and 3000 stall
cam
1.7 roller rocker's
alky injection
custom tuned pcm
42# injectors
SLP header's
N2O wet

and of course all the other supporting mods, colder plugs, 3" exhaust, FWI etc...
The car should be right around the 12.3-12.5 range on the motor and the 11.7-12.0 on a 75-100 shot.
With the car tuned properly I'm hoping for (motor/N20) 320/400+hp and 400+/450+ ft lbs.


I thought I was going to get flamed for the video's..... you guy's rock!!!

fast4door
03-17-2005, 09:16 PM
Dude, noice vids. Yur car is very respectable. Tha camera kid needs fired, but as for runs...noice, very noice. Stop playing with the little stangs, go find a 03/04 Cobra to beat up on.
Maybe even an LS1..."do you feel lucky??"

Mach1
03-17-2005, 10:52 PM
ORIGINAL: fast4door

Dude, noice vids. Yur car is very respectable. Tha camera kid needs fired, but as for runs...noice, very noice. Stop playing with the little stangs, go find a 03/04 Cobra to beat up on.
Maybe even an LS1..."do you feel lucky??"


Hey who you callin little? ;)



I got to drive a GTP with 150k on the clock at my old work, wow those car are awsome.

4fit?
03-18-2005, 12:11 AM
Very nice vids. My brother used to have a GTP. Those things are damn quick!

RollinThunder
03-18-2005, 12:27 AM
yea I've always wanted a GTP ..u can make them into a real sleaper and have a nice auto tranny at the same time

MACHJUAN
03-18-2005, 03:11 AM
whats a gtp i'm lost?

HIONPSI
03-18-2005, 03:11 AM
ORIGINAL: fast4door

Dude, noice vids. Yur car is very respectable. Tha camera kid needs fired, but as for runs...noice, very noice. Stop playing with the little stangs, go find a 03/04 Cobra to beat up on.
Maybe even an LS1..."do you feel lucky??"

You mean an LS1 like this one?
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=track.wmv

Here's another of my car on the dyno.

http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=PrixDyno.wmv
This was my very first time on the dyno with a untuned car.

Track prepped GTP
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=BumpinGTP.mpeg

No 03 Cobra vids at the moment. I assure you that as soon as it gets nice enough outside... that is the number one car on my list.:D

A GTP is the supercharged version of a Grand Prix. Not bad stock but a very heavy car. 3.8 s/c. Cars that are stock with forced induction tend to respond to mods better than NA cars.

Aliate X
03-18-2005, 04:21 AM
Dude no way we would flame you for that car. I give you more than most other people in the same time range with mustangs, and I think I speak for everyone when I say,that thing is badass.

Aliate X
03-18-2005, 04:23 AM
btw what is a GTP and what does it stand for? I know its some kind of supercharged grand am or something? My friend has one. Hes trying to do some work to it.

Driver_Kiddo
03-18-2005, 09:49 AM
not bad. :D

yellow4.6
03-18-2005, 11:46 AM
that is neat, nice sleeper

HIONPSI
03-18-2005, 02:03 PM
ORIGINAL: Aliate X

btw what is a GTP and what does it stand for? I know its some kind of supercharged grand am or something? My friend has one. Hes trying to do some work to it.

Grand Touring Package. It is NOT a Grand AM.. lol[:'(]. It is a Grand Prix. 3800lb fwd 250 crank hp stock (260 on the new ones). It comes stock with a Eaton roots type m90 on it. Yeah... you think these cars are sleepers... wait till you come accorss a Regal or Bonneville running same times if not quicker than me. They have the same motor and NO ONE expects to see a Regal or Bonneville move like that. They are just as capable as a GTP, just maybe 100 pounds heavier.

Once again... you guy's rock!

AF04GT
03-18-2005, 02:36 PM
Did you beat the mach 1 in the vid? I couldn't tell. That is one fast gtp!

4fit?
03-18-2005, 04:04 PM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI
Yeah... you think these cars are sleepers... wait till you come accorss a Regal or Bonneville running same times if not quicker than me. They have the same motor and NO ONE expects to see a Regal or Bonneville move like that. They are just as capable as a GTP, just maybe 100 pounds heavier.

Once again... you guy's rock!

I have always been a fan of the newer Bonnie's. They are just sick looking sedans.

HIONPSI
03-18-2005, 04:21 PM
ORIGINAL: AF04GT

Did you beat the mach 1 in the vid? I couldn't tell. That is one fast gtp!

Yes I did. That is one of my good friends. He's never beaten me at the track although I've only beaten him once on the street. Much more traction at the track... my only advatage over that car is I'm putting more torque on the ground.... to be to use it, I have to have good traction. The street rarely provides that. if you watch the vid again, you'll notice a little w that comes on on my clock below the time. The announcer also says left lane wins if you listen closely.

I have always been a fan of the newer Bonnie's. They are just sick looking sedans.I can show you one running 11.0x's! Talk about sleeper!!!!

FiveOhNo
03-18-2005, 04:48 PM
haha, i got to drive a s/c regal to my prom a few years ago...good times, haha.

fast4door
03-18-2005, 07:19 PM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI

You mean an LS1 like this one?
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=track.wmv



I watched it... and though he redlighted, it still looked lke he had you by a car at 1/2 track. BUT, that's not my LS1 hahahaha.
Still a sweet ride, though

BTW, fire that camera guy too. LOL

HIONPSI
03-18-2005, 09:25 PM
ORIGINAL: fast4door


ORIGINAL: HIONPSI

You mean an LS1 like this one?
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=track.wmv



I watched it... and though he redlighted, it still looked lke he had you by a car at 1/2 track. BUT, that's not my LS1 hahahaha.
Still a sweet ride, though

BTW, fire that camera guy too. LOL

He actually did cross the line before I did. BUT... if you really look at the video... watch the tree. It was bracket racing. I dialed in faster than him so he was to leave first. On top of him leaving first... as you mentioned, he red lighted, so he left that much earlier. Had we left at the same time... the outcome would have obviously been different. It's all good tho... you win some you lose some. The difference between my car now and then is night and day.

Sidewayz6.0
03-18-2005, 09:52 PM
You mean an LS1 like this one?
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=track.wmv

I'm sorry, I think I saw a 13.88 @ 101? Was that correct?

HIONPSI
03-18-2005, 10:02 PM
ORIGINAL: sidewayz4.6


You mean an LS1 like this one?
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=track.wmv

I'm sorry, I think I saw a 13.88 @ 101? Was that correct?



I think it was 13.58 actually, not sure... either way... not impressive for even a stock LS1. I don't remember the temperature... but my car never really got down into the low 13.'s until the sun dropped and got cold outside.

Here's a couple other vids of my car on last years mods.
http://www.gtphorsepower.com/hosting/movie/file_info/download1.php?file=FREDS-GTP-TWO-13-SECOND-PASSES.wmv

RollinThunder
03-19-2005, 02:07 AM
HIONPSI...r the new G6's by pontiac s/c also?...cuz those G6's look real badass...I'd deff. get one of em!

HIONPSI
03-19-2005, 03:16 AM
No clue..... I have heard a lot of good things about the new Cobalt tho!;)

fast4door
03-19-2005, 11:10 AM
I did notice that tree was bracketed;) but I didn't want to expose it due to his being first green...LMAO
I have to agree that if it's not cold temp, your car will not put down good times. We have a kid here with one and last year he (on the 1/8th now) was running 9.0's and I was runnin 8.7's (bone stock), he was pullied, CAI, exh, etc, the temp dropped dramatically by 10pm and he was runnin 8.5's right along side of me. Those cars ROCK when it's cold outside. I know he was planning a cam set up for the winter project. I'm interested to see how it does this year. I'm cammed up too so he better have really done some stuff!!! LOL


HAHAHAHA My wife wants a new Cobalt SS
Hmmmmmm...trade in the Impala SS for a Cobalt????? NO!
She's crazy!!

HIONPSI
03-19-2005, 01:47 PM
ORIGINAL: fast4door

I did notice that tree was bracketed;) but I didn't want to expose it due to his being first green...LMAO
I have to agree that if it's not cold temp, your car will not put down good times. We have a kid here with one and last year he (on the 1/8th now) was running 9.0's and I was runnin 8.7's (bone stock), he was pullied, CAI, exh, etc, the temp dropped dramatically by 10pm and he was runnin 8.5's right along side of me. Those cars ROCK when it's cold outside. I know he was planning a cam set up for the winter project. I'm interested to see how it does this year. I'm cammed up too so he better have really done some stuff!!! LOL


HAHAHAHA My wife wants a new Cobalt SS
Hmmmmmm...trade in the Impala SS for a Cobalt????? NO!
She's crazy!!

lol! The cold gets rid of knock retard which is the main problem with these cars. Depending on what cam he got... if he already got down to an 8.5 in the 8th...he'll probably get down to a mid 12. 1/4 cammed.

Cobalt vs Impala....... hhhmmmm lol

very different side os the spectrum. I can tell you that factory FI cars take to mods very well. 8.5:1 compression ratio motor's are great to start modding on!

fast4door
03-19-2005, 10:53 PM
We,ve owned the Imp since new, it runs mid 12's and is the wifes daily driver, gets 28-30mpg hwy and is a serious grocery getter. Plus it can tame quite a few ricers and some nameless domestics. you should see the look on their face when she is driving and I'm shotgun and they get Own3d.

HIONPSI
03-20-2005, 03:02 AM
ORIGINAL: fast4door

We,ve owned the Imp since new, it runs mid 12's and is the wifes daily driver, gets 28-30mpg hwy and is a serious grocery getter. Plus it can tame quite a few ricers and some nameless domestics. you should see the look on their face when she is driving and I'm shotgun and they get Own3d.

dude.. you have no clue how bad I want this to happen... my wife is terrified of my car and wont get on it at all. I keep trying to get her to take it down the track but she wont. You're lucky. Seeing a chick in a sports car is sexy... even if it's your wife/girlfriend. Definite turn on.

That car has to weigh more than mine does!!! (3800) Getting it moving like that had to of been slightly difficult. Good job on the car man! I wouldn't sell it either!

BCisme
03-20-2005, 03:54 AM
GTPees. :thown:

fast4door
03-20-2005, 12:14 PM
She's somewhat of a gear head too. She the Asst Mgr for an Advance auto parts, and has owned a 72 Nova SS, 87 TA, 92 Firebird all before we were married. We had a 70 Chevelle in excess of 600hp and she loved it. She drove it nearly everyday. (till I blew it up, she was pissed)

2000GT4.6
03-20-2005, 03:49 PM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI

MOst GTPer's get a gauge pod. That is a good way to tell that they are modded. It won't, fortunately ;), tell you how modded. Other things to listen for.... the louder the supercharger, the smaller the pulley in most cases (more boost). Other than that, just the regular things, listen for a cam etc...

Yes I was putting down 350ft lbs to the ground... it's the blower... having 100ft lbs more torque than hp is normal. This is before the N2O and half the mods below.

I have a pretty long mods list at this point. The major things are:

Race tranny with 3.69's and 3000 stall
cam
1.7 roller rocker's
alky injection
custom tuned pcm
42# injectors
SLP header's
N2O wet

and of course all the other supporting mods, colder plugs, 3" exhaust, FWI etc...
The car should be right around the 12.3-12.5 range on the motor and the 11.7-12.0 on a 75-100 shot.
With the car tuned properly I'm hoping for (motor/N20) 320/400+hp and 400+/450+ ft lbs.


I thought I was going to get flamed for the video's..... you guy's rock!!!


What tires are you running, slicks or drag radials?

Unless you are running all out slicks I would say that 12.3 in a 320 WHP car is being a bit optimistic.

In any case, nice car. My friend has a GTP and I was very suprised how quick it was stock.

Mike02GT
03-20-2005, 07:29 PM
quick gtp

fast4door
03-20-2005, 10:03 PM
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

What tires are you running, slicks or drag radials?

Unless you are running all out slicks I would say that 12.3 in a 320 WHP car is being a bit optimistic.

In any case, nice car. My friend has a GTP and I was very suprised how quick it was stock.


Don't want to flame ya but the GTP's can put down some mad torque and remember, they are FWD. I have seen a few with some good bolt-ons and a pulley run mid to high 12's on drag radials and/or DOT slicks

2000GT4.6
03-20-2005, 10:55 PM
ORIGINAL: fast4door


ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

What tires are you running, slicks or drag radials?

Unless you are running all out slicks I would say that 12.3 in a 320 WHP car is being a bit optimistic.

In any case, nice car. My friend has a GTP and I was very suprised how quick it was stock.


Don't want to flame ya but the GTP's can put down some mad torque and remember, they are FWD. I have seen a few with some good bolt-ons and a pulley run mid to high 12's on drag radials and/or DOT slicks



Ummmm FWD cars are far inferior to RWD or AWD cars for traction. The instant you acclerate all of the wieght is thrown to the rear tires.

This is why the race from a roll thing is so big in the import circles.

All im asking is he planning on those times with slicks or d/rs. Regardless of the torque numbers i have a hard time seeing a 12.3 in a 320 WHP car. Remeber it is also heavyer than a camaro/mustang.

In any case, like I said im not flaming him, just asking what he is planning on running for tires w/ those times.

HIONPSI
03-21-2005, 12:23 AM
I will run Mickey wrinkle walls at the track. As far as RWD being far more superior.... I saw a post here about how it's SO hard to get a stock GT into the 2.0 or below 60.'s. On Kuhmo 716's (bottom of the line) I regular the 1.9's and have a pulled a 1.8 on them on completely stock suspension and tranny(2.93's). torque is a huge factor. Getting this car into the mid 13.'s on 320 is the norm. I can show you a dozen! keep in mind that 320hp ='s 410 in torque. And that's just on the motor.

BCisme..... you're alreay on my list! I do have to say that I will approach this race with the upmost concern. regardless of when I spank that a$$. You have all my respect for getting a 6 banger Stang to move that fast NA. It will be close all motor.... but when the spray is in.... sorry bud.... lights out!;)

fast4door
03-21-2005, 04:14 PM
2000, cool, I see what you're asking....My bad

grimwolf
03-21-2005, 09:27 PM
those cobalts are bad ass for a lil car...they will give the neon rt4's a run for their money, me personaly if i was gonna own a gm product i would just hoc everything i got and buy a c6 zo6

01GTvertible
03-21-2005, 11:15 PM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI


No 03 Cobra vids at the moment. I assure you that as soon as it gets nice enough outside... that is the number one car on my list.:D
A GTP is the supercharged version of a Grand Prix. Not bad stock but a very heavy car. 3.8 s/c. Cars that are stock with forced induction tend to respond to mods better than NA cars.


dude, you have an awesome car, no doubt, much props to ya!!! i'll volunteer for the video!! :D my bro had an old 70 grand prix, that thing was sweet, ever since then, i have been a big fan of them. congrats on the originality

HIONPSI
03-22-2005, 01:45 AM
ORIGINAL: 01GTvertible


ORIGINAL: HIONPSI


No 03 Cobra vids at the moment. I assure you that as soon as it gets nice enough outside... that is the number one car on my list.:D
A GTP is the supercharged version of a Grand Prix. Not bad stock but a very heavy car. 3.8 s/c. Cars that are stock with forced induction tend to respond to mods better than NA cars.


dude, you have an awesome car, no doubt, much props to ya!!! i'll volunteer for the video!! :D my bro had an old 70 grand prix, that thing was sweet, ever since then, i have been a big fan of them. congrats on the originality

against you... it would take a bit of work.... and I would sweat the entire wat through.... but I might get ya.... it would be close on the bottle.
You have any idea what you're putting on the ground?

BCisme
03-24-2005, 09:48 AM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI



BCisme..... you're alreay on my list! I do have to say that I will approach this race with the upmost concern. regardless of when I spank that a$$. You have all my respect for getting a 6 banger Stang to move that fast NA. It will be close all motor.... but when the spray is in.... sorry bud.... lights out!;)



dude, my car's not a six shooter. :D

HIONPSI
03-26-2005, 07:15 PM
ORIGINAL: BCisme


ORIGINAL: HIONPSI



BCisme..... you're alreay on my list! I do have to say that I will approach this race with the upmost concern. regardless of when I spank that a$$. You have all my respect for getting a 6 banger Stang to move that fast NA. It will be close all motor.... but when the spray is in.... sorry bud.... lights out!;)



dude, my car's not a six shooter. :D


:eek:... your an ass! In that case.. I retract my statement... 300 whp out of a v8 Stang is easy... regardless.... not enough. I look forward to you getting home!

BCisme
03-27-2005, 08:36 AM
ORIGINAL: HIONPSI


ORIGINAL: BCisme


ORIGINAL: HIONPSI



BCisme..... you're alreay on my list! I do have to say that I will approach this race with the upmost concern. regardless of when I spank that a$$. You have all my respect for getting a 6 banger Stang to move that fast NA. It will be close all motor.... but when the spray is in.... sorry bud.... lights out!;)



dude, my car's not a six shooter. :D


:eek:... your an ass! In that case.. I retract my statement... 300 whp out of a v8 Stang is easy... regardless.... not enough. I look forward to you getting home!


actually 2V stangs have only just begun to crack 300. more and more everyday, and the record for a 2v is 368. and "six shooter" is a nickname given to my car by a member of dragva. it has nothing to do with the motor. and seeing as i only have .8 litres of displacement on you, AND you have boost, that should be all you need. if it takes your 3.8 2 power adders to outdo a mildly built small block V8 of just 4.6 litres, well...enough said. :D

when i return, the flame wars between mustangs and GTP's will rage all summer. ;) should be a great year.

SpecterGT260
03-28-2005, 12:24 AM
Wait, so ur wife drives an impala SS that runs 12s? Im assuming ur runnin the older one with the 5.7. I dont wanna up and throw the bs flag, but i thought the impala SS had 260hp, and weighs a shade over 4k. Besides, Ive never heard of anything runnin 12s as a grocery getter. Not callin u out, but please, for the sake of my sanity, tell me youve modded it somehow to get those numbers to fit.

HIONPSI
03-28-2005, 03:01 AM
^^^ the car has a LT1 or LS1 in it. Why's it so hard to believe that it runs 12.'s? NOt stock of course.... but who here is stock? There are many many "grocery getter's"running quite a bit faster than mid 12.'s (I jungle my key's again), it's not even uncommon anymore.

SpecterGT260
03-28-2005, 04:33 AM
guess ur right. My bad, just freaked cuz im not accustomed to thinkin of the impala as that fast of a car. But no sense in startin any problems as long as we are drivin rice.









ATTN RICERS: There is a reason Top Fuel's come in V-8's. You cant argue much with a 4 second quarter mile.

lucky
04-07-2005, 05:48 PM
great vids man, awsome sleeper[8D]