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03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 11:16:55 AM   
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What all is needed for to do this? Would it even be worth it? anyone done it before? Any info. would be greatly appreciated! thanks.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 11:28:02 AM   
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No not worth it at all. If not mistaken you have to get heads off the 4v and a new intake. You would be alot better off with a kenne bell. Its designed for the 2v and would be alot earier to do. And is a better supercharger.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 11:29:21 AM   
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I was just thinking about this again today, everyone will say you need a custom adaptor plate and its not worth it at all. But today I was looking at the m112 and upper intake manifold on the ford lightning. Because the Lightnings use a 5.4l 2v engine which has (from what I understand) the same heads as the GT.

I think it could possibly be a bolt-on part? And someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 11:33:07 AM   
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quote:

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What all is needed for to do this? Would it even be worth it? anyone done it before? Any info. would be greatly appreciated! thanks.

-alex


This has been discussed many times before.. not to be mean but you need to learn to use the search feature... but to answer your question.. No.. it's not going to happen.. It will not fit without a lot of customization done… and even if you do custom mount it it’s going to cost more then a brand new supercharger already made for a 2 valve.. Not to mention that the eatons suck anyway… that’s why most cobra owners swap it out for a Kenne Bell.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 1:09:06 PM   
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No, not ever going to happen..... by the time you rigged it together, you could have a proper 2v supercharger. The eaton wouldnt make much power anyway.... NOT WORTH THE TIME AT ALL!!!


I have seen a lot of these threads lately... im going to make this a sticky for a bit

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 1:52:14 PM   
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Actually, it can be done. Check out http://www.nautilusperformance.com/id74.html. The kit that you see on the page isn't the final production unit that they will come out with.. From what i understand, they will be coming out with a kit for $700 or so which comes with the basics to run this setup, such as manifold, plumbing, relocation brackets etc....but will not come with fuel, blower or tune etc... It can be very easy to find a ported/pullied eaton M112 for about $400-600 on ebay. If you could get the rest of your parts slightly used (If this isn't a budget supercharger, you might as well get a KB) you could probably do this project for around $1600 or so.. I suggest you give them a call and see what they can help you with. A ported/pullied Eaton is capable of putting out more power than a stock GT block can hold.
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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 3:25:17 PM   
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just remember they dont call an Eaton a heaton for nothing... a good friend of mine had a steig ported eaton on his cobra, had to f around with all kinds of cooling goodies. For the money and the hassle you would be much better off going with something like the vortec mongoose kit

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 3:51:25 PM   
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Thanks for the responces, I think I will pass on doing this. Btw, the search pulled up nothing for me, I search for 30 min. or so before I said the hell with it. thanks again guys!

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:01:01 PM   
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quote:

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Actually, it can be done. Check out http://www.nautilusperformance.com/id74.html. The kit that you see on the page isn't the final production unit that they will come out with.. From what i understand, they will be coming out with a kit for $700 or so which comes with the basics to run this setup, such as manifold, plumbing, relocation brackets etc....but will not come with fuel, blower or tune etc... It can be very easy to find a ported/pullied eaton M112 for about $400-600 on ebay. If you could get the rest of your parts slightly used (If this isn't a budget supercharger, you might as well get a KB) you could probably do this project for around $1600 or so.. I suggest you give them a call and see what they can help you with. A ported/pullied Eaton is capable of putting out more power than a stock GT block can hold.
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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:30:19 PM   
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I think that seems like an awesome idea because the m112's are not all that bad and they are very abundent, I would say with that adaptor you could have a decent setup for about $2000

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:35:40 PM   
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Yea I am looking into this company, I'd wish they would give more info on that setup.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:37:22 PM   
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there is another company which makes a full m112 kit but it costs more so I dont think it would be worth it. Here is a link for anyone intersted.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:45:38 PM   
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there is another company which makes a full m112 kit but it costs more so I dont think it would be worth it. Here is a link for anyone intersted.

Thats expensive. Alomost as much as a KB. 

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:55:20 PM   
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Where have you seen a kb kit for that cheap?

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 4:59:16 PM   
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Stanggang is Unfortunately 100% correct with the "Heaton" term. The heat soak is the #1 issue with these blowers as you push them past their efficiency range with a pully. One positive aspect to this kit is that if it doesn't come with a heat exchanger, you don't have to upgrade, since you wouldn't have one to begin with, you can buy an afco or similar unit to begin with...I agree though, that if you don't find bargain deals on most of the parts, the kit starts to add up for what it is. I think this kit is really the best option for someone with a stock block looking for around 350-400rwhp, as it could be done cheaper than any other. If max boost is what your after, there are FAR better options out there. Even with ported heads and cams, this blower would probably max out around 500rwhp. With this being relatively new to the market, the only way we will really know how well or poorly this setup will work is for people to try it. The only real question a potential buyer has to ask himself is what the ultimate goal is. If 400rwhp is enough, and you want to keep costs down while having strong low end torque then this may be the blower for you. If the goal is to one day have a built block, then there are a lot better blowers for that.

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 5:00:48 PM   
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I know that they have heat problems, but that is not a big concern of mine because I am a boost pussy and would probablly only run 6 psi

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 7:11:22 PM   
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How much psi do eatons start to have a problem, heat wise?

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 7:24:43 PM   
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I think they start to built a lot of excess heat at around 12-14 psi


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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 7:36:42 PM   
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That kit shows 6-11 psi. Is that just because it has the stock pulley on it? Could you put a smaller pulley on it and run higher than 11 psi?

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RE: 03 eaton on a 2 valve? - 12/17/2007 7:44:33 PM   
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I'm not sure, the cobra's run 8 psi stock and with I think with the smallest pulley they can run makes like 16-17 psi. So i assume the m112 could force that much pressure into a GT but it would be REALLY in-efficent and you would need a built motor to run anywhere near that much boost.

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