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Just a quick update on the TTI kit. After adding good rods and pistons of course...440 rwhp and 436 rwt at 12.2 pounds of boost. Same kit, but instead of a 3.3 upper, a 3.1 upper pulley. Still stock heads, axle back exhaust. stock cats. so from a starting point of 242 to 440.
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Just a quick update on the TTI kit. After adding good rods and pistons of course...440 rwhp and 436 rwt at 12.2 pounds of boost. Same kit, but instead of a 3.3 upper, a 3.1 upper pulley. Still stock heads, axle back exhaust. stock cats. so from a starting point of 242 to 440.
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I suppose you could. We have had a lot of questions about doing that exact thing. We have designed a number of different adapter plates, but there is such a wide selection, and all the blowers have different foot prints, different snout lenghts, etc. so we are going with the TVS 1900 and TVS 2300 upgrade. The 1900 produced 770 hp on a built 6L and the 2300 just put down 950 hp at 15 pounds of boost on an LS2. Currently our focus is on the daily driver, who wants a 150 hp jump economically, using stock heads and maybe a cat back. In the future with the same kit, if you install good rods, pistons, and upgrade the fuel system you can jump to 500 rwhp. No other changes. A kit is currently being installed on another GT that has Stage II cams and heads, good internals, headers, exhaust and the right suspension setup to get it to the ground. We are waiting to see what that will do.
i seen a guy take a m90 blower off a supercoupe thunder bird and put on a 4.6sohc. I have access to one of those blowers. any body no what it would take to do the swap. i know a differant blower would work better but i just want to know what it would take
I had a supercoupe with a ported blower and GTP teflon rotors it had seen boost as high as 18lbs, and it is too small a blower for a 4.6. An M90 is way too small for any 4.6 , the 4.6 breathes soo much better.
thanks man i seen a guy who did it and it ran reel well. but im getting ready to build a 4v stroker mod motor with a f1a procharger n a few months any. i was gana do the m90 a couple months back. so do you know anyone that would be interested in that blower its been ported and has a differant pulley on it.. and to do a 4v swap into a 2001 gt does the wirering have to b changed. any feedback would be appreciated
Sorry if somebody has already talked about this. I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to s/c's and a lot of other things about cars. But what would it take to get this s/c setup completed and running good. I have an 02 GT conv auto. with only flows and 3.73's on it.
Not very efficient, he would show little gains on top end horsepower compared to if his car was NA and tuned for that , the M90 is too small displacement for a motor that breathes that well, a change to just an m118 would show probably 50hp or greater gains to his set up. With a whipple he would be making about 100hp more with those mods. As a comparison with a 3.8 liter I had 410- ftlb of torque and 385 RWHp with headwork(3.8 heads stock are crappy and hard to make good breathers) and a stock 89 cam. Running 18lbs of boost good exhaust and a good FMIC. Tune was for 36 lb injectors I could have used bigger. This is a 3.8 that breaths poorly compared to the PI 4.6 an M90 is too small to be efficient on a 4.6 with mods, will it work yes, but it has to be spun really fast and is making more torque than peak HP. also making ALOT of heat. that car is very nice, but with just an upgrade to a 118 it would have noticably higher top end.
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He is very aware of that fact. And that is the exact reason he just ordered an M112 Gen V from Tork Tech Inc. His estimate is a 1/2 second gain... so 10.70's. I will post his results when they are available.
Well Well.....what a sticky that has been posted! Ok I guess I am going to have to run my mouth for a while about this and give my input. Ok to begin I am poor college kid there you have. I have been wanting to supercharge my Stang 99 for about a year now but being in school other things have to come first. In the meantime I have been researching superchargers and reading ever bit of information I can read about them. I once had the idea why not buy a eaton off a Cobra from e-bay and slap it on if only someone made a CHEAP adapter for it. Well the time is here and I see a lot of these ideas coming together. Now that the time is here my feelings have changed BIG TIME. Although I want to supercharge so bad I cant stand it what is the point in investing 2,000 in a adapter, then buying the E-BAY STOCK COBRA EATON supercharger, Fuel Pump, Injectors, MAF, and TUNE, for a STOCK Cobra.....so what if they can handle pretty good numbers that is still absurd because of the price.(THERE IS NO WAY TO GET AROUND HAVING TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT WE ALL KNOW THAT) There are MANY MANY companies out there today that have kits ready for us 2v owners that can make and build on some serious numbers..Why try to kill yourself getting used parts, adapters, and everything else just for a supercharger when there are so many others out there for at most 500 dollars more than what you would invest in this kit just to say I''m supercharger-ed. If you like me your never going to be happy and even to add superchargers and tuning is complicated why go out and make it that much harder on yourself trying to stick a bunch of stock crap that was not designed really for your motor just to put out some numbers that IMO aren''t half of what the aftermarket jobs out there can do. That''s just my two cents and I am 21 years old. Come on boys I know some of you work do the damn thing right and invest the money to have what you want not just some cheap alternative to say you supercharged, then with a sigh say oh its just a eaton from a cobra when some guy with a Twin-Screw or Cen blows your doors off...That just my two cents...I don''t mean to offend anyone...=-)
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This just in. Mustang Magic in NY just tuned one of the Tork Tech kits on a 2000. With heads, good internals, headers, exhaust at 12 pounds of boost they reported 495 rwhp @ 6800rpm. It was all done on pump gas. Next week they are upping the boost to 17 pounds. Should be interesting. I''m trying to get a dyno sheet.
Well Well.....what a sticky that has been posted! Ok I guess I am going to have to run my mouth for a while about this and give my input. Ok to begin I am poor college kid there you have. I have been wanting to supercharge my Stang 99 for about a year now but being in school other things have to come first. In the meantime I have been researching superchargers and reading ever bit of information I can read about them. I once had the idea why not buy a eaton off a Cobra from e-bay and slap it on if only someone made a CHEAP adapter for it. Well the time is here and I see a lot of these ideas coming together. Now that the time is here my feelings have changed BIG TIME. Although I want to supercharge so bad I cant stand it what is the point in investing 2,000 in a adapter, then buying the E-BAY STOCK COBRA EATON supercharger, Fuel Pump, Injectors, MAF, and TUNE, for a STOCK Cobra.....so what if they can handle pretty good numbers that is still absurd because of the price.(THERE IS NO WAY TO GET AROUND HAVING TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT WE ALL KNOW THAT) There are MANY MANY companies out there today that have kits ready for us 2v owners that can make and build on some serious numbers..Why try to kill yourself getting used parts, adapters, and everything else just for a supercharger when there are so many others out there for at most 500 dollars more than what you would invest in this kit just to say I''''m supercharger-ed. If you like me your never going to be happy and even to add superchargers and tuning is complicated why go out and make it that much harder on yourself trying to stick a bunch of stock crap that was not designed really for your motor just to put out some numbers that IMO aren''''t half of what the aftermarket jobs out there can do. That''''s just my two cents and I am 21 years old. Come on boys I know some of you work do the damn thing right and invest the money to have what you want not just some cheap alternative to say you supercharged, then with a sigh say oh its just a eaton from a cobra when some guy with a Twin-Screw or Cen blows your doors off...That just my two cents...I don''''t mean to offend anyone...=-)
I think you''re really missing the whole point of this idea. It isn''t for everybody. It''s for those trying to save some money and who don''t mind pieceing it together. No one said it is better than a twinscrew, but that argument kind of goes out the window when you realize that an M112 is capable of producing more then the STOCK block can handle. you can install a KB on your car and make 400rwhp safely, and you can with the M112 as well. Nobody with a twin screw or a centri is going to "Blow your doors off" unless their making more power (READ: Built block). If you''re going with a built block, then this is not for you.
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i didnt bother reading what everyone said about this. but i did butt loads of research and it can be done. i saw used ones selling for 250 to 1000 on ebay but.... you need to chance alot of parts in order to get it working i saw a company that sold a kit for 2,900 that didnt even have all the parts you needed. when all is said and done your looking at spending almost $4,000. your way better off getting this kit http://modularpowerhouse.com/product_info.php?products_id=91&osCsid=d3bd82412bdbc1c6dca50bfc987a435f or another kit like this one. no one who bought this had one bad thing to say about it. and it would be a alot less of a headache not to mention all brand new parts
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Well here you go guys. Finally a dyno sheet of the new TTI kit on a bone stock 99 GT. Stock heads, stock exhaust, stock everything. This was just a straight "bolt on". Stock compared to after install. 9.3 PSI max, average boost was 7.5 pounds. I would guess the boost climbed a bit higher because of everything being bone stock. Lots of rescrictions.
The first couple of posts all rag on EATON SC''s. EATON SC''s weren''t made to be "custom add-ons". They were made to be production ready!!! Thus the reason that the other manufacturers are better. I was raised in a household that was supported by EATON. EATON makes marvelous things, and if it wasn''t for them, we wouldn''t currently have some of the technology that we do!!! I had a 3.8L Camaro that would have been supered.....if I would have kept it!!! And it would have been done with a "production ready" super.
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. and to do a 4v swap into a 2001 gt does the wirering have to b changed. any feedback would be appreciated
