So I over heard a guy saying that a four door neon kick the crap out of his 00 GT

say it isnt so a neon?

If this is true, it would be the SRT-4 version of the neon with a 2.5L, Turbocharged, 215 horsepower, 245 lb-ft of torque at only 2800 pounds in weight.

The Dodge SRT-4 is the second fastest current-production Chrysler vehicle, and one of the fastest Dodges ever made. Even with that mind-blowing acceleration - seen in recent Dodge history only by the Viper, Spirit R/T [Road and Track], and Daytona R/T.

Having a friend with one and getting a ride, I can verify it is ball busting fast.

The GT Mustang is 300HP with 320 lb-ft of torque but weighs in at almost 3400 pounds.

So, is it possible....Anything is possible given the right conditions.

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Yeah, The SRT-4 is ridiculously fast. I have seen them run low 14s high 13s on the tracks here..

moved to street/strip

yea a friend of mind has a SRT-4 and it pretty quick... i'll try to post a vid of him racing a couple of MUSTANGS, and some ricers.....The fastest srt-4 i ever seen run was like mid 12's i think her name was SRT_GURL... i think.....[:'(]

^^^^^hey arent u the kid wit the 03 GT that beat a sti?

ORIGINAL: tightdogal

^^^^^hey arent u the kid wit the 03 GT that beat a sti?

Haha, that would be funny, MUSTANG_GT....MUSTANG_COBRA...very similar, you never know ;)

that is funny! but those little srt's are pretty quick! watch out or they will getcha!


ORIGINAL: tightdogal

^^^^^hey arent u the kid wit the 03 GT that beat a sti?

Yeah, that was me. And apparently your not familiar with the turbo neon....it's fast, and it will take out a stock 00GT. He got me on top end...mind you there was salt on the roads and i wasn't giving it my all. Funny thing is, he would get me 0 - 60 too. Many people on this site will tell you that they won't...but their arrogant...the car does 0 - 60 in 5.2 (in motor trend) so a 5.5 is realistic. Motor trend gave my stang a 5.5, realistically it will do a 5.9.

Ya dont have to be arrogant to say an SRT4 wont wax ya, you just gotta be faster, thats all. 0-60 in around 3 or so seconds and mid 11's is usually more than enough to shut up most people who are arrogant like ya say. It doesnt matter if they are in a stock LS1, a Mustang or a Neon. Faster is faster

I am arrogant to the point I dont think 13's are ridiculously fast. A few years back I thought 13's was fast on the street, but times change so do people. Keep modding...lol..

fast streetcar = under 12.5 IMO

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.
thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix [:'(][:'(]

My car is fast and it is only a 13.0. Is that not fast?

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Ya dont have to be arrogant to say an SRT4 wont wax ya, you just gotta be faster, thats all. 0-60 in around 3 or so seconds and mid 11's is usually more than enough to shut up most people who are arrogant like ya say. It doesnt matter if they are in a stock LS1, a Mustang or a Neon. Faster is faster

I am arrogant to the point I dont think 13's are ridiculously fast. A few years back I thought 13's was fast on the street, but times change so do people. Keep modding...lol..


Discussion was stock for stock i think...

I THINK 13.0 IS FAST FOR A STREET CAR JD

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.



You also cant compare 4clys and 6clys to V8

But yea ive only ran one srt in my stang and it was pretty close, so yea given the driver adn the mods it could be a challenge to keep up with one possibly

I dont think 13's are ridiculously fast.

Whew! I thought I was the only one!

I only know of one almost stock LS1. Its in the driveway, and it has free mods and a flowmaster that sounds nice but doesnt make it faster. Its an economy car @ 29 mpg highway.

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

fast streetcar = under 12.5 IMO

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.

ugh... opinions really are like assholes.

Everyone has one, and everyone is one.

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

fast streetcar = under 12.5 IMO

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.
thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix [:'(][:'(]


First off, GTO's dont even share the same chassis as grand prix's idiot. They share the holden monaro body/chassis from australia. Grand prixs also dont have LS1'LS2.

And SRT's can be made VERY quick. im sure a stock motored SRT (with just an aftermarket turbo and boost controller) that runs 11.6's is faster than your ride.

Keep your bias, ignorant comments to yourself.

Dom

ORIGINAL: SilverBullet5.0

First off, GTO's dont even share the same chassis as grand prix's idiot. They share the holden monaro body/chassis from australia. Grand prixs also dont have LS1'LS2.

And SRT's can be made VERY quick. im sure a stock motored SRT (with just an aftermarket turbo and boost controller) that runs 11.6's is faster than your ride.

Keep your bias, ignorant comments to yourself.

Dom



hahahahah, there no need for name calling fellas, whats wrong get a lil cranky when someone has an opinion, and i know it isnt based on the grand prix, but look at the gto! it looks like a grand prix on steroids. ugliest thing ever.

also, where did i say anything about a 11.6 second neon being slower than me car? NOWHERE.
did i say modified srt 4's are slow? NOPE dont think so, and again, u say a "stock motor" srt4 w/ aftermarket turbo and boost controller, thats like saying a 03 cobra with a 200 shot. it will smoke that 11 second neon. so, as for keeping my ignorant comments to myelf, its MY opinion and i will say it over and over all i want, YOUR the one getting cranky and giving ignorant comment 2000si calling me an asshole, you calling me an idiot, you should watch what u say before getting cranky at me when i didnt call ne names :D

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

YOUR the one getting cranky and giving ignorant comment 2000si calling me an asshole, you calling me an idiot, you should watch what u say before getting cranky at me when i didnt call ne names :D




I'm not getting cranky, and if you're going to continue to insult cars with inane comments such as "its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels" then I will call you ignorant. Because it is pretty ignorant.

I don't care if you don't like the car, but respect is given when it's shown.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si


ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

YOUR the one getting cranky and giving ignorant comment 2000si calling me an asshole, you calling me an idiot, you should watch what u say before getting cranky at me when i didnt call ne names :D




I'm not getting cranky, and if you're going to continue to insult cars with inane comments such as "its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels" then I will call you ignorant. Because it is pretty ignorant.

I don't care if you don't like the car, but respect is given when it's shown.



Are we talking about the Honda Si? LOL :D:D:D

Poor Old jd... lost and confused again.

That old age memory loss really snuck up on ya, didn't it?

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

Poor Old jd... lost and confused again.

That old age memory loss really snuck up on ya, didn't it?



I will take that as a joke but in all honesty I have lost 3/4 of my short term memory since Iraq and the doctors say it is stress related and refuse to look into it any further. Im kinda pissed about it.

Except the cobra is an eight cylinder car with a blower. The SRT is a FOUR cylinder with a turbo. Thats pretty sad on the part of the cobra, and pretty impressive on the part of the SRT.

Dom

why does the cylinder matter? theres lots of 6cyl things out today with much more power than a factory 5.0? likely 4 cyls too, why not get a civic and drop a v8 if they are that big of a difference, 4cyl can be fast, as can 8s, hell 2cyls smoke my car many times. theres are many differences in the engines, it all comes down to preferance tyhose 4cyls can rev like mofos, my v8 cant, my v8 has torque a 4cyl doesnt. theres differences.. you can compare 4 and 6 cyls to v8s, but you cant compare either if one has a turbo.. ANYWAYS, i leave this to rest im too tired to go on about nothing.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si



I'm not getting cranky, and if you're going to continue to insult cars with inane comments such as "its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels" then I will call you ignorant. Because it is pretty ignorant.

I don't care if you don't like the car, but respect is given when it's shown.


LMAO, maybe we dont care if we get respect from a turboed bumble bee, the guy just called it what it is, just like you always say, he is just expressing HIS opinion, but this time you jumped on him and called him ignorant. id have to agree w/ you on the opinions though, we all have one dont we. mine just happens to be the same as dc-mann8's on this topic.

ORIGINAL: 01GTvertible


ORIGINAL: 2000Si



I'm not getting cranky, and if you're going to continue to insult cars with inane comments such as "its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels" then I will call you ignorant. Because it is pretty ignorant.

I don't care if you don't like the car, but respect is given when it's shown.


LMAO, maybe we dont care if we get respect from a turboed bumble bee, the guy just called it what it is, just like you always say, he is just expressing HIS opinion, but this time you jumped on him and called him ignorant. id have to agree w/ you on the opinions though, we all have one dont we. mine just happens to be the same as dc-mann8's on this topic.



You seem to care a whole lot when I joke about Mustangs and the reliability. No really, you do care. You just want to make another inane point.

Anyway, it's his opinion. That doesn't make it a smart one, or one that was put together intelligently.

That opinion was bred by hate, hatred is bred from ignorance. Get my drift here?

i think neons are ugly......

(waits to be attacked)

I'm with him ^ I don't like them either. Keep up the good work DC.

srt-4's are nice cars, I definately prefer the look, sound, and feel of my GT though. It's all about preference, don't dog on a car because you think it's ugly. Fact of the matter is, they are probably the best bang for the buck car out right now, they deserve some props.

ORIGINAL: tightdogal

i think neons are ugly......

(waits to be attacked)


No attack here. I don't care if you think it's ugly. You didn't start making useless remarks like "it's slow" or "it's a ricer car with a ricer wing"

At least you have a little bit of tact. ;)

For me it has a lot to do with the driver, its not completely about the car. Some people have really nice cars but are a$$ holes, so they and their cars dont get the respect they deserve. Also you can come across a car you dont really like, but the driver is cool so you give him and his car more respect. I like all cars, including srt-4s. I think they are fast and cool. Just because i drive a mustang doesnt mean all other cars suck. Ill get smoked by an srt-4 all day, for now...;)

^^^^ya know u pretty much summed it up for me

The SRT-4 is fast stock 13.9 is the best I've seen them run in stock condition. However it isn't the 2nd fastest prodution vehicle in chryslers lineup, just to mention a few faster: SRT-8 300C, SRT-10 Ram, SRT-6 Crossfire and the Viper also the 300C hemi runs the same 13.9 in the 1/4 mile in stock trim. I've beat a couple SRT-4's in both my GT & my Ram but its mostly the driver....

Its always more fun to whoop on a car with a truck you guys really need to see the expression some people make...[:-]

BTW this is my first post ever!!!

It WAS the 2nd fastest when it first came out, before the 300s were out or the crosfire.

Right now, the 2nd fastest mopar would be either the SRT-8 or SRT-6.

thanks guys!

anyways yes it IS ugly, and IS a factory ricer, but i did not call it slow but if u took that trubo off itd be slow now wouldnt it.

as for the guy saying its the best bang for a the buck out there... are u on crack? IMO a 5.0 mustang is the besat bang for the buck as they go for 2-4 thousand and run 14s stock.. put a few thous and u can hit an 11.. soo.. let say 6k total, 3k car 3k mods, u have a 11 second car.. as for a srt4 u couldnt even buy the car for that.

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

thanks guys!

anyways yes it IS ugly, and IS a factory ricer, but i did not call it slow but if u took that trubo off itd be slow now wouldnt it.

as for the guy saying its the best bang for a the buck out there... are u on crack? IMO a 5.0 mustang is the besat bang for the buck as they go for 2-4 thousand and run 14s stock.. put a few thous and u can hit an 11.. soo.. let say 6k total, 3k car 3k mods, u have a 11 second car.. as for a srt4 u couldnt even buy the car for that.


It is not a "factory ricer" and he meant that for a NEW CAR, you know... one with the year built the same as the year it is now, a warrenty and no problems that you'd find in a typical 5.0... it's the absolute best bang for the buck out there.

Yes, yes it is.

Stop arguing with me now.

It is.

he did not say brand new did he? he said best bang for the buck car out now, and how can you judge the problems 5.0s have, 5.0's are one of the strongest engines. im at 126,000 miles and only thing i had to replace was the rad and clutch cable, and just because its new doesnt mean its perfect, things break on new cars too. and yes it IS a factory ricer, i can call it whatever i wanna call it because its MY opinion and you have no right to tell me im wrong because that what it is, an opinion and there is no correct answer if its a ricer or not.

opinions aren't right or wrong. They're just biased points of view from one side or the other. I don't get where this rice crap is even coming from... holy crap it has a cosmetic spoiler on it from the factory. You don't seem to be calling any Mustangs cosmetic spoilers rice, or Supras, or even mine for that matter... I don't care if you think it's ugly, but quit using the freakin term rice.

It's old, it's played out. It's getting to be the most used excuse to hate on a car and still not come anywhere near the topic of the thread.


As far as your posts now, in the case it's an opinion calling a factory four banger, that's coincidently faster than your 5.0, rice... well all I can say is that is just jealousy. ;)


(here comes the denial!)

Once again im gonna side with 2000si. All you people calling it ugly and a factory ricer that is YOUR opinion. Instead of saying "Its ugly" say "I think its ugly". Same with "Its a factory ricer." Say "I think its a factory ricer." Everyone has an opinion. Plus everyone is always bitching about how immature and ignorant srt4 owners are, and to some degree i agree, but i also see a lot of you guys doing the same thing. Give respect get respect.

"and yes it IS a factory ricer, i can call it whatever i wanna call it because its MY opinion and you have no right to tell me im wrong because that what it is, an opinion and there is no correct answer if its a ricer or not."

This is what im talking about, you say "YES IT IS A FACTORY RICER" like your right and everyone who disagrees is wrong, but at least you said its your opinion. I personally like the stock look of it and i would gladly drive it, it takes very little to make those things move very fast. 220-230whp going through a quiafed tranny seems like a killer deal to me.

ORIGINAL: SilverBullet5.0

Except the cobra is an eight cylinder car with a blower. The SRT is a FOUR cylinder with a turbo. Thats pretty sad on the part of the cobra, and pretty impressive on the part of the SRT.

Dom


Not when you consider all the factors. First and foremost the SRT-4 only weighs 2,870 lbs. compared to the Cobra at 3,665 lbs. That's almost 1,000 lbs. difference right there. Also considering the SRT-4 is cramming 15 psi of intercooled boost into the engine. So given that information no it's not sad on the part of the Cobra at all, especially considering a stock 2003 Cobra can still wax a stock SRT-4 by a considerable margin. Simply put it takes more power to move a heavier car faster. I'm not bagging on the SRT-4 and if that's what you like fine, but don't compare apples to oranges. Consider all the factors before stating that a V8 engine is somehow inferior to a 4-cylinder based on track numbers.

Consider the fact that a 600cc sport bike is fully capable of annihilating a SRT-4. Does that mean it's "sad on the part of the SRT-4?" I mean the bike isn't even boosted. No, it's all about power-to-weight ratio.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

opinions aren't right or wrong. They're just biased points of view from one side or the other. I don't get where this rice crap is even coming from... holy crap it has a cosmetic spoiler on it from the factory. You don't seem to be calling any Mustangs cosmetic spoilers rice, or Supras, or even mine for that matter... I don't care if you think it's ugly, but quit using the freakin term rice.

It's old, it's played out. It's getting to be the most used excuse to hate on a car and still not come anywhere near the topic of the thread.




hey.....RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE. i can use the term all id like, what r u gonna do about it.......RICE

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

As far as your posts now, in the case it's an opinion calling a factory four banger, that's coincidently faster than your 5.0, rice... well all I can say is that is just jealousy. ;)

(here comes the denial!)


a factory srt 4 is faster than my 5.0? since when do factory neons run in the 12s? since your the ricer expert i must be wrong. my 13.0 mustang MUST be slower than the factory srt.













RICE

I think he means your factory stang vs a factory neon. Your car didnt roll off the assembely line running those times.

maybe, but he did not say a factory 5.0, or even just 5.0, he clearly said MY 5.0

So then go against a modded srt4

ORIGINAL: Mach1

So then go against a modded srt4


A modded srt will not beat his 5.0. You have to do a lot of work to make it run in the 12's.
DC i'm with you i think it is factory rice to.

You guys never seem to give up. You make incredibly inane arguements over pretty much anything that can even be remotely argued.

You know perfectly well what I meant, but you can't seem to get over the fact that you don't have any idea of what you're talking about.

I'm done with this debate, dc and 01gt turned this into a 3rd grade level playground arguement.

ORIGINAL: 01GT

ORIGINAL: Mach1

So then go against a modded srt4


A modded srt will not beat his 5.0. You have to do a lot of work to make it run in the 12's.
DC i'm with you i think it is factory rice to.



My god man. I cant believe you're still going on about this. Have you ever seen a modded SRT4 run on the track OR the highway? I honestly think you're a N00B speaking out of your ass because nothing you've said in this forum to this date makes absolutly no sense. Unless that fox is pushing 280+ hp then he has no chance against a Stage II SRT4 and no chance in hell against a Stage III.

You dont have to do a lot of work to them at all. Stage II on slicks ran 12.9 and I seen it with my own eyes. You really need to do some research before you talk because you're making yourself look dumber and dumber with every ignorant comment leaving that cock holster of yours.

You guys have never seen a lot of things that are really fast have you? I'll be the first to admit that I think the SRT-4 is ugly. And the old beaten down "It's still a neon." I wouldn't care to own one, fast or not. It's a Neon.

Thats not the point though. For very little $$$ they scream. It's sad I know. But at the moment, it probably is the best bang for the buck. Especially since Ford just makes the Mustang gayer and cost more...But it never gets any faster.

****, I bet one of those will surprise you one of these days. Last summer I got my ass handed to me by a Jetta. I didn't see that coming. I wouldn't be amazed to see those little shooping cart Neons running 11's.

IBTL

the neon is just that. its a neon. but it has a turbo. it beats stock GT's. it has questionable styling. im just gonna be PC here. i dont like the way they look or the build quality. i think it is cheap looking and feeling. i feel the same thing about evos. thats why i have a wrx. the refinement just isnt there in either of those cars. oh well. as far as the wing goes, some people take those "questionable" things off. i personally dont like any wings. my stock wing was too big for me. we have 3 in our club and i make fun of them all the time, but i respect them.

its alright 2000si, im sorry and i love you

I knew the gay sex was coming any minute now.

ORIGINAL: sidewayz4.6

I knew the gay sex was coming any minute now.



HAHAHA

And i hate to break this to you but if your running 13 flat its not gonna take much for a srt4 to beat you. Stock vs stock hes already almost a second ahead of you.

ORIGINAL: jdaniel


My god man. I cant believe you're still going on about this. Have you ever seen a modded SRT4 run on the track OR the highway? I honestly think you're a N00B speaking out of your ass because nothing you've said in this forum to this date makes absolutly no sense. Unless that fox is pushing 280+ hp then he has no chance against a Stage II SRT4 and no chance in hell against a Stage III.

You dont have to do a lot of work to them at all. Stage II on slicks ran 12.9 and I seen it with my own eyes. You really need to do some research before you talk because you're making yourself look dumber and dumber with every ignorant comment leaving that cock holster of yours.


01GT had a guy w/ a srt talk some major crap to him, he had exhaust, some other bolt-ons, and even 75 shot, and he only got 14.5!!! 3 times, im sure it was driver error, atleast all of you neon fans in here will say so, either way, it was slow, and looked ugly at the track, even smelled like someone was boiling RICE!! some of you guys need to get out from behind your computer and go to the track some times. i dont give a crap what the mags say, you are gonna have to show me a stock neon running anywhere in the 13's before i will believe you.

ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

fast streetcar = under 12.5 IMO

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.
thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix [:'(][:'(]

This is just down right.... dumb (to put it lightly).SRT4's are retarded? High 13.'s, racing seats, amp and sub in the trunk.... all for 22k. You show me another car that can do the same.

They have to slap on a turbo to keep up with na stangs. I am SO tired of hearing that stupid ****! Really I am. Having a car stock FI is very different than doing it aftermarket. You are comparing a 4cyl. to a V8 and complaining? There's no replacement for displacement remember? I mean... using your theory, then didn't Ford have to S/C the Cobra for it to run with a LS1?

Why can't you compare turbo'd cars to NA? They have been doing it for over 30yrs and now it has changed because you say so? Porsche and Corvette have rivaled for years. I mean... you can't compare a stock GTP to a Mustang then because the GTP is supercharged? get a grip.

And for the biggest bone head statement.... a GTO is only a hopped up Grand Prix? OMG!!! Are you stupid? COMPLETELY different cars. Fwd- rwd, V8-V6. Not even in the same ball park. Kid... go haze yourself for that one!

ORIGINAL: HIONPSI


ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

fast streetcar = under 12.5 IMO

anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels[:'(], they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA.
thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix [:'(][:'(]


There's no replacement for displacement remember? I mean... using your theory, then didn't Ford have to S/C the Cobra for it to run with a LS1?

And for the biggest bone head statement.... a GTO is only a hopped up Grand Prix? OMG!!! Are you stupid? COMPLETELY different cars. Fwd- rwd, V8-V6. Not even in the same ball park. Kid... go haze yourself for that one!


I agree with all the above, just if I say it, everyone jumps on my nuts. I love how all these Mustang guys hate turbo imports b/c they need FI to keep up with N/A V8's, yet they fall in love with a Cobra. Blows my mind.

New GTO > anything in it's price range....all motah!

What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.

Embarass me? I think it's impressive those cars run mid 11's for minimal amount of money. Hell, I've said on numerous occasions that I'd have one if they were as cheap as my LS1, just so I could say I make 500rwhp and run mid 12's.

A lightly modded GT will NEVER run with an LS1. My car made 325rwhp with just some headers...through an automatic. Let's see any N/A Ford motor do that.

My car with $2K thrown at it would mean you'd need a new blower to keep up. That's not too impressive man.

ORIGINAL: 01GT

What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.


I'm usually bias when it comes to 03 Cobra vs. F-bodies, but an NA Mustang GT? Not even close. Not even Mach1s can touch LS1s on the top end. They beat LS1s because of better gearing and such, but LS1s always trap higher.

But hey, the 04 would slaughter LS1s mod for mod. Go ahead and put a blower on the LS1, it'll be spitting rods outta the block long before the Cobra's internals start to strain.

ORIGINAL: 01GT

What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.


Dude your an idiot. First of all were comparing FACTORY stock cars dumbass. GT=240whp? Ls1=300whp. The only na stang that can compete is the mach1 and as someone alerady said its only in the 1/4 mile.

ORIGINAL: 01GT

What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.
yes, you are in fact, a moron. If you have to mod a GT to run with an LS1, than YES, there has to be some work done to keep up. Ford deicided to go the FI route. I LOVE the 03+ Cobra's, don't get me wrong. But the previous stangs had nothing for the lS1. Not even the Mach.... it is a strong car.... but stock for stock... the nod goes to the LS1, sorry.

But hey, the 04 would slaughter LS1s mod for mod. Go ahead and put a blower on the LS1, it'll be spitting rods outta the block long before the Cobra's internals start to strain. The motor was not designed for FI. I have seen some completely stock LS1's, add a blower, and put down 450+(7psi).

haha finally everyone else realizes how much of a moron 01GT is so that I don't have to tell him that anymore.

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ORIGINAL: dc_mann8

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haha wow... kinda ironic that you posted that. don't ya think?

im just messing around 2000, i have no hard feelings lol.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

haha finally everyone else realizes how much of a moron 01GT is so that I don't have to tell him that anymore.

Oh I knew it, but arguing with him is about as productive as banging my head agaist a wall.