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Once again im gonna side with 2000si. All you people calling it ugly and a factory ricer that is YOUR opinion. Instead of saying "Its ugly" say "I think its ugly". Same with "Its a factory ricer." Say "I think its a factory ricer." Everyone has an opinion. Plus everyone is always bitching about how immature and ignorant srt4 owners are, and to some degree i agree, but i also see a lot of you guys doing the same thing. Give respect get respect.
"and yes it IS a factory ricer, i can call it whatever i wanna call it because its MY opinion and you have no right to tell me im wrong because that what it is, an opinion and there is no correct answer if its a ricer or not."
This is what im talking about, you say "YES IT IS A FACTORY RICER" like your right and everyone who disagrees is wrong, but at least you said its your opinion. I personally like the stock look of it and i would gladly drive it, it takes very little to make those things move very fast. 220-230whp going through a quiafed tranny seems like a killer deal to me.
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ORIGINAL: SilverBullet5.0
Except the cobra is an eight cylinder car with a blower. The SRT is a FOUR cylinder with a turbo. Thats pretty sad on the part of the cobra, and pretty impressive on the part of the SRT.
Dom
Not when you consider all the factors. First and foremost the SRT-4 only weighs 2,870 lbs. compared to the Cobra at 3,665 lbs. That's almost 1,000 lbs. difference right there. Also considering the SRT-4 is cramming 15 psi of intercooled boost into the engine. So given that information no it's not sad on the part of the Cobra at all, especially considering a stock 2003 Cobra can still wax a stock SRT-4 by a considerable margin. Simply put it takes more power to move a heavier car faster. I'm not bagging on the SRT-4 and if that's what you like fine, but don't compare apples to oranges. Consider all the factors before stating that a V8 engine is somehow inferior to a 4-cylinder based on track numbers.
Consider the fact that a 600cc sport bike is fully capable of annihilating a SRT-4. Does that mean it's "sad on the part of the SRT-4?" I mean the bike isn't even boosted. No, it's all about power-to-weight ratio.
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opinions aren't right or wrong. They're just biased points of view from one side or the other. I don't get where this rice crap is even coming from... holy crap it has a cosmetic spoiler on it from the factory. You don't seem to be calling any Mustangs cosmetic spoilers rice, or Supras, or even mine for that matter... I don't care if you think it's ugly, but quit using the freakin term rice.
It's old, it's played out. It's getting to be the most used excuse to hate on a car and still not come anywhere near the topic of the thread.
hey.....RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE RICE. i can use the term all id like, what r u gonna do about it.......RICE
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ORIGINAL: 2000Si
As far as your posts now, in the case it's an opinion calling a factory four banger, that's coincidently faster than your 5.0, rice... well all I can say is that is just jealousy.
(here comes the denial!)
a factory srt 4 is faster than my 5.0? since when do factory neons run in the 12s? since your the ricer expert i must be wrong. my 13.0 mustang MUST be slower than the factory srt.
A modded srt will not beat his 5.0. You have to do a lot of work to make it run in the 12's. DC i'm with you i think it is factory rice to.
My god man. I cant believe you're still going on about this. Have you ever seen a modded SRT4 run on the track OR the highway? I honestly think you're a N00B speaking out of your ass because nothing you've said in this forum to this date makes absolutly no sense. Unless that fox is pushing 280+ hp then he has no chance against a Stage II SRT4 and no chance in hell against a Stage III.
You dont have to do a lot of work to them at all. Stage II on slicks ran 12.9 and I seen it with my own eyes. You really need to do some research before you talk because you're making yourself look dumber and dumber with every ignorant comment leaving that cock holster of yours.
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You guys have never seen a lot of things that are really fast have you? I'll be the first to admit that I think the SRT-4 is ugly. And the old beaten down "It's still a neon." I wouldn't care to own one, fast or not. It's a Neon.
Thats not the point though. For very little $$$ they scream. It's sad I know. But at the moment, it probably is the best bang for the buck. Especially since Ford just makes the Mustang gayer and cost more...But it never gets any faster.
****, I bet one of those will surprise you one of these days. Last summer I got my ass handed to me by a Jetta. I didn't see that coming. I wouldn't be amazed to see those little shooping cart Neons running 11's.
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the neon is just that. its a neon. but it has a turbo. it beats stock GT's. it has questionable styling. im just gonna be PC here. i dont like the way they look or the build quality. i think it is cheap looking and feeling. i feel the same thing about evos. thats why i have a wrx. the refinement just isnt there in either of those cars. oh well. as far as the wing goes, some people take those "questionable" things off. i personally dont like any wings. my stock wing was too big for me. we have 3 in our club and i make fun of them all the time, but i respect them.
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I knew the gay sex was coming any minute now.
HAHAHA
And i hate to break this to you but if your running 13 flat its not gonna take much for a srt4 to beat you. Stock vs stock hes already almost a second ahead of you.
My god man. I cant believe you're still going on about this. Have you ever seen a modded SRT4 run on the track OR the highway? I honestly think you're a N00B speaking out of your ass because nothing you've said in this forum to this date makes absolutly no sense. Unless that fox is pushing 280+ hp then he has no chance against a Stage II SRT4 and no chance in hell against a Stage III.
You dont have to do a lot of work to them at all. Stage II on slicks ran 12.9 and I seen it with my own eyes. You really need to do some research before you talk because you're making yourself look dumber and dumber with every ignorant comment leaving that cock holster of yours.
01GT had a guy w/ a srt talk some major crap to him, he had exhaust, some other bolt-ons, and even 75 shot, and he only got 14.5!!! 3 times, im sure it was driver error, atleast all of you neon fans in here will say so, either way, it was slow, and looked ugly at the track, even smelled like someone was boiling RICE!! some of you guys need to get out from behind your computer and go to the track some times. i dont give a crap what the mags say, you are gonna have to show me a stock neon running anywhere in the 13's before i will believe you.
anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels, they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA. thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix
This is just down right.... dumb (to put it lightly).SRT4's are retarded? High 13.'s, racing seats, amp and sub in the trunk.... all for 22k. You show me another car that can do the same.
They have to slap on a turbo to keep up with na stangs. I am SO tired of hearing that stupid ****! Really I am. Having a car stock FI is very different than doing it aftermarket. You are comparing a 4cyl. to a V8 and complaining? There's no replacement for displacement remember? I mean... using your theory, then didn't Ford have to S/C the Cobra for it to run with a LS1?
Why can't you compare turbo'd cars to NA? They have been doing it for over 30yrs and now it has changed because you say so? Porsche and Corvette have rivaled for years. I mean... you can't compare a stock GTP to a Mustang then because the GTP is supercharged? get a grip.
And for the biggest bone head statement.... a GTO is only a hopped up Grand Prix? OMG!!! Are you stupid? COMPLETELY different cars. Fwd- rwd, V8-V6. Not even in the same ball park. Kid... go haze yourself for that one!
anyways, srt4's are retarded, its a factory ricer with the body kit and wheels, they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA. thats like us saying wow man the 03 cobra smoked that 95 neon!! because after all, its still a neon....a hopped up neon, and the GTO is a hopped up grand prix
There's no replacement for displacement remember? I mean... using your theory, then didn't Ford have to S/C the Cobra for it to run with a LS1?
And for the biggest bone head statement.... a GTO is only a hopped up Grand Prix? OMG!!! Are you stupid? COMPLETELY different cars. Fwd- rwd, V8-V6. Not even in the same ball park. Kid... go haze yourself for that one!
I agree with all the above, just if I say it, everyone jumps on my nuts. I love how all these Mustang guys hate turbo imports b/c they need FI to keep up with N/A V8's, yet they fall in love with a Cobra. Blows my mind.
New GTO > anything in it's price range....all motah!
What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.
Embarass me? I think it's impressive those cars run mid 11's for minimal amount of money. Hell, I've said on numerous occasions that I'd have one if they were as cheap as my LS1, just so I could say I make 500rwhp and run mid 12's.
A lightly modded GT will NEVER run with an LS1. My car made 325rwhp with just some headers...through an automatic. Let's see any N/A Ford motor do that.
My car with $2K thrown at it would mean you'd need a new blower to keep up. That's not too impressive man.
What does the new GTO cost???? Ford didn't have to S/C the cobra to keep up with the LS1. A lightly modded GT can RUN with them all day. Quit running your mouth about the COBRA when all of your friends can see but love them when you talk in private don't make me embarrass you.
I'm usually bias when it comes to 03 Cobra vs. F-bodies, but an NA Mustang GT? Not even close. Not even Mach1s can touch LS1s on the top end. They beat LS1s because of better gearing and such, but LS1s always trap higher.
But hey, the 04 would slaughter LS1s mod for mod. Go ahead and put a blower on the LS1, it'll be spitting rods outta the block long before the Cobra's internals start to strain.
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, they have to slap on a turbo in order to keep up w/ factory NA stangs, you cant compare turbo'd cars to NA. 
