ok before i decide (if i ever decide) what Im going to install, here is one more option and I need your help and oppinion! I found thistwinturbo on ebay for like$1000, its not anything big but its not bad either. Here is the description & spec:
Including following item
-TWIN TURBO INTERCOOLER (22X3X11" CORE SIZE.30" OVERALL LENGTH. 2.5" INLET OUTLET)
-t3/t4 internal wastegate turboX 2
-blow off valve X2
-oil line, oil return lines & fittingsX 2
-universal 2.5" aluminum intercooler piping with silicone
TURBO SPEC:
INLET
2"
OUTLET
3"
BEARING TYPE
WET FLOAT BEARINGS
OIL INLET
1/8 NPT
MAX PSI CAPACITY
27PSI
COMPRESSOR
.48 AR COMPRESSOR
TURBINE
.60 AR TURBINE
FLANGE TYPE
T3 FLANGE
DOWN PIPE FLANGE TYPE
2.5" V BAND
the guy said i am going to need a manifold and the downpipe made along with injectors, fuel pump, and ecu management (or ECU upgrade)andhp gain is 80-200.
So what do you think....could i get all these parts with another lets say $1000-$1500, and is it worth it?!
stangant
12-11-2007, 09:02 PM
i think it is worth it. im doing a single turbo setup until i build a new motor which i will be twin turbo.
konjina
12-11-2007, 11:19 PM
here are some pictures of a kit! what do you think?!
I've seen that kit myself, but it has left me with more questionionable doubt, than certainty. First thing is that the kit is a universal kit, so some pieces will need to be modified furthur to make them work. Secondly the T-3/4 turbos are not the best thing in the world by modern standards, and tend to go out fairly fast, just read the feedback on them from the site, they also can not run as much boost safely as newer/better brands and models of turbos can. Thirdly some of the parts are cheaply crafted, and the intercooler isn't the most effective, remember, you get what you pay for. Lastly, it's not a complete kit, as some parts still need to be modified, not to mention the fact that the seller has already screwed up some sales and hasn't shiped some people an entire kit.
Personally, I wouldn't buy it simply because of all the risk involved, it may be an OK buy, but with the sellers feedback and item quality in question, I just wouldn't take a chance on it, now if you wish to, and want to let us know how things went, I'd say be my guest, I'm always wanting to learn how these types of things turn out for people.
konjina
12-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I don't know man, with the money I am planning to spend this kit sounds like a good deal. Ihave about $2000, andI think that would be enough (maybe im wrong).Also I don't want some super big power on my car but something average, little faster V6, and I think with this kit that is realistic. But the onlyproblem I have is just like you said, how much can I trust that guy! Now if I knew everything is ok and would work just fine, I would pay even$1500 for that kit...but thats only IF! And I am not a big fan of NOS, it is kinda not practic for use and it lasts very short!
jthorn9
12-12-2007, 12:49 PM
This is just my advice here, but with $2000 why don't you look into buying a used Vortec S/C or something. Why take a gamble with that kind of money on something not quite proven when you can spend the money on something you know will work, and if something goes wrong, you can get parts quickly. There are tons of V6 S/C kits for around $1500 with little miles on them, some are even rebuilt and ready to go.
Granted, turbos make more stable power, however, trusting an "ebay" seller for a turbo kit doesn't seem to be the best route to me. If anything I'd rather build a custom fab kit myself then buy an unproven universal kit, at least I'd know the quality of the parts I'm using.
konjina
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Are you sure I can find used Vortec S/C for this money? If I can find one but complete kit, ready to install I wouldn't wait a minute, I'd buy it. Tell me where can I find those man...not on ebay obviously!
VCS_SSSTANG
12-12-2007, 07:41 PM
Either way 2000$ wont cover your entire bill.
konjina
12-12-2007, 11:47 PM
so theonly thing for me with $2500 is to get some NOS, somenice body kit, and some racing seats....im sure i could get that! but i still love S/C or turbos better...damn! ill go post a new forum now "Looking for used S/C and Turbo COMPLETE Kits"
jthorn9
12-13-2007, 12:14 AM
OK, just did a quick search, and for the first time ever, I could not find a used system for a sixer, oddly enough, now that I'm "NOT" looking, as it would figure, I found 10 billion used S/Cs for 94-95 5.0s, go figure that, have the brakes, and tranny finally go bad, and my S/C money has to go towards them, damnmit I hate irrony.[:@]
Keep a look out on ebay.
Also constantly check the "For Sale" forum here.
Also, hit up www.corral.net, they're another mustang forum, but their forum boards kind of suck, but their for sale area is "HUGE".
Keep an eye out for a few weeks and do more research to make sure that this is what you want to do.
Remember, with N2O you have to pay for refills, pay to have it well tuned, and you don't always have the power potential like you do with the S/C because once the boost is gone, you're back to stock.
VCS_SSSTANG
12-13-2007, 12:36 AM
ORIGINAL: jthorn9
OK, just did a quick search, and for the first time ever, I could not find a used system for a sixer, oddly enough, now that I'm "NOT" looking, as it would figure, I found 10 billion used S/Cs for 94-95 5.0s, go figure that, have the brakes, and tranny finally go bad, and my S/C money has to go towards them, damnmit I hate irrony.[:@]
Keep a look out on ebay.
Also constantly check the "For Sale" forum here.
Also, hit up www.corral.net, (http://www.corral.net,) they're another mustang forum, but their forum boards kind of suck, but their for sale area is "HUGE".
Keep an eye out for a few weeks and do more research to make sure that this is what you want to do.
Remember, with N2O you have to pay for refills, pay to have it well tuned, and you don't always have the power potential like you do with the S/C because once the JUICE is gone, you're back to stock.
Fixed that for you.
Yeah 3.8L s/c's are almost impossible to find right now, seems their is a huge performance boom for the 6er's.... Even if you find a used s/c kit for 1.6k your still gonna need a tune, and a few other minor things.
cobra232
12-28-2007, 08:50 PM
will the pics of that kit didn't show any headers to feed the turbo's.
maybe that's why it's sooo cheap combined with cheap chinese self exploding turbo's.
try to find a used procharger kit. i might be making V6 turbo kits but don't be fooled into thinking $1000 will get you a reliable poweradder other than nitrous.
a decent twin kit will run $4000+ and that's without all the fuel/air/tuning parts.
anyways a twin kit really isn't needed.
a good sized single will get the job done just fine
OK looked at the pics alittle closer. "it's a Trap" that is a bogus kit. the turbo feeds to the IC are a joke. there is no way that would work and i will bet the turbo's are just "zip tied" in place.
the kit shoen with the pipes shows all nice symmetrical bends. no way in hell are you going to have identical looking IC pipe bends on both sides.
that guy selling them needs reported. all he is selling is junk turbo's and cheap ass IC/IC lines
LilRoush
12-29-2007, 01:55 AM
I agree. That set up is pure crap. Don't get scammed.
Buy a used S/C set up or even an M112 set up and save yourself a lot of headache.
I just bought a procharger kit off of ebay for $1250 shipped. Everything included.It can be done:D
konjina
12-31-2007, 02:51 AM
ORIGINAL: RED2000
I just bought a procharger kit off of ebay for $1250 shipped. Everything included.It can be done:D
are you serious....man it cant be all included for that money, thats way too cheap...i am looking on ebay every single day and couldnt find anything like that[:@]
I happend to know that guy, I don't know if you want the t-trim on stock motor!
konjina
12-31-2007, 12:13 PM
i know but its not up to what i want but what i can pay for....anyways how bad would t-trim be on stock?
RED2000
12-31-2007, 12:20 PM
Yea, i actually have seen 3 or 4 of the v6 kits on ebay go for around $1200. They come up all the time...just keep looking
konjina
12-31-2007, 12:53 PM
ok
konjina
12-31-2007, 12:57 PM
do you know how reliable he is?
konjina
12-31-2007, 01:23 PM
here is what i have now and im trying to get rid of..what if i keep it what can i do with it? I know I will need like a million other parts to put it together...any advice?!