Ok....so I finally found a mustang that is in decent condition in my area that turns out to be a 65' hartop....ok...now it is a 6cyl. three speed.....what I was wondering was....how hard and what am I looking at to put a fuel injected 5.0 motor in it...and on a 2nd note...is $5000 a good price on a pretty much fully restored mustang of that year?....
hey man welcome to da forums. and ya i think that is a good price. i'm sure some1 else will chime in who knows more but it sounds ok to me. just make susre that there is NO RUST. the less body work to do the more you can spend on performance or show stuff or whatever u r into.
Good Luck Man!!!
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* 65 Mustang (gave to my bro red65dude. ) * 92 5.0 notch 5-speed
ok soo...everyone is helping me about the price part but my main question is how hard will it be to put a fuel injected 5.0 motor into it...like I said it is a 6 cyl. now....
It won't exactly be Hard per say to convert to a fuel injected 5.0.... just not that easy... If you want it to be a real v8 car and handle and stop well, you're going to need to / want to replace the front 4 lug drums to a 5 lug disc, rear the same lug conversion. You'll probably need to replace the tranny (I'm not sure what you have) which you'll probably do if you have a donor car with the 5.0... Replace the radiator, and drivetrain. I would probably reccomend an aftermarket EFI system if you can afford it so you don't need to perform some hack job on the wiring harness.
My 64.5 I'm personally keeping carbed for simplicity sake, have an edelbrock intake and putting heads/cam/headers on it. I'll probably do the SSBC front power discs, Flaming River rack, T5 and... A/C when I'm through with it...
Thanks man....I have another question of something that you said do you think that I should use a factory ecu or should I get a totally independent aftermarket ecu and wiring harness....because I was planning on using a 89-93 5.0 with a tremec 5 speed behind it.....
Thanks man....I have another question of something that you said do you think that I should use a factory ecu or should I get a totally independent aftermarket ecu and wiring harness....because I was planning on using a 89-93 5.0 with a tremec 5 speed behind it.....
You have to replace basically the entire front end to support the heavier engine and components. I would suggest you look into replacing the front end with a Mustang II front end. Your engine bay will be very crowded with the 5.0 mainly because of the placement of the shock towers. And, as has been mentioned, you will need to upgrade the entire brake system to disk brakes. So, you are looking at about a 10 grand job. I paid 5 grand for my rust free 65 way back in '91, so you will be getting a bargain if it is a completely rust free car. As far as the ECU and wiring harness, I would use the factory one. You will find that you will be well over your head in money out if you start replacing everything with aftermarket parts.
< Message edited by Soaring -- 3/13/2005 12:36:41 PM >
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Ok. First off, 5K for a nearly restored coupe is a good price. Second, If you want a V-8 car, why don't you get a V-8 car. For 5K you can find one that is in good shape. Now, before I sound like an idiot or jerk, the reason I say this is to convert the I-6 to V-8 EFI, you'll need to change the whole front suspension,brakes,rear diff,motor/frame mounts,associated wiring and also get the EFI setup and associated parts for that. After you acquire all the parts you need, the end result will be mucho $$$$$$. Also, if the person who you bought it from went through all the trouble of doing(or having it done) a resto on it, it would be a shame to take the car apart for the conversion. Try www.fordsix.com Those guys have tons of mods for a 6 to make it run just as good/fast as an 8.
Now all that said, If you do decide to do the conversion anyway, I'll be more than happy to take some of the 6 cyl. stuff off your hands.
< Message edited by bob emmerich -- 3/13/2005 7:37:02 PM >
well he was planning on doing a v-8 conversion in it himself.....him and his son but his son decided that he didn't like the car...soo..you know....but...didn't think it would be too much money because if you bought a donor 5.0 wrecked or something for $500...which I know I can get because we have a local wrecking yard that deals only with mustangs....could I basically have everything I need besides the front suspension...see this is why I was asking......
Try putting a Toyota Supra motor in it. Its still a six, but it has power(200hplus) and it can go for more then 200,000 miles. Use the transmission too. You don't have to up grade anything else!
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1966 Ford Mustang 289 hopped-up, ford 9" , 4 wheel disk brakes , HD T5 and BANNED from XOC.(Xterra Owners Club)
You suggested this swap in another post as I recall... Have you done it yourself, and can you recommend it first hand? By the way - many of these still-running vintage Ford 200 inline sixes have well in excess of 200,000 miles on their clock. They may not be power-houses; but they certainly have durability on their side.
is it possible to put the supra motor in it? my bro is into the supras and i have a 66 with the i6. hes been ordering motors for like $900 shipped to the house. They dont run bad either. And are you talking the mkII or the mkIII motor?
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You can put just about any motor in a Mustang. I have never did it, but it sounds like a great swap. I would try it, but I have a V8 motor in mine. If I had a I6 I would really think about it. In the Toyota world, That is the motor that they swap too. Don't know what would have to be done, but how hard could it be?
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1966 Ford Mustang 289 hopped-up, ford 9" , 4 wheel disk brakes , HD T5 and BANNED from XOC.(Xterra Owners Club)
Price- it all depends on the resto job. If it was done right it is a killer deal. If not.....well.... I mean some guys replace rotted steel and some guys slap on bondo and lots of paint, once it's "done" only time will show the quality of work.
The V8 swap is not the most difficult thing on those old cars. sites like
Have been doing these swaps for ever so they have lots of info and LOTS of sites on the net have a step by step approach to this kind of thing.
Personally I would forgo the EFI and put a Carb of for reduced trouble, No computer, no return fuel lines, no wiring harness, etc......
The front end, cooling system, brakes, suspension and rearend will all need to be changed but for the 65/66 cars all of this stuff can be bought in kits and there is Lots of suppliers with lots of options.
The only downside I can see is the overall cost. Even if you got yourself a doner drivetrain at a good price and bought used or inexpensive parts for the rest you will still spend more money than buying a whole V8 65/66 car. However if the body and interior on yours is in A1 shape you would have a pretty rockin car when you are done, and the difference in cost could (?) be minimal.
I am just glad that I have my 65 in original condition. All this swap for toyota enginen that are front wheel drive vehicles, and all the upgrades are just not what I figure as an original 65 Mustang. I love my original Mustang, but drive the hell out of my 03 Mach1. Now, I have to figure out how to get my original cigarette lighter working.
the supra is rw. I talked to my brother about this last night, he said he would highly recomend the 1jz. costs a little more but the reliability is much greater. plus you can get parts all day long for the motor. he said it runs $500 more than the 7mgte (which is the motor out of the late 80's supras, the ones with turbos). I googled this swap and came up empty handed. im sure a good fab guy could do it though. check out http://www.supraforums.com for more info.
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Even if the Supra motor would fit, WHY???? you would need to Fabricate motor mounts/support beams as the ford will not mate to the toyota. You would need to fabricate a trany crossmember. Hopefully the shifter hole will line up or you are cutting a new hole for the shifter and fabricating a peice for the old hole. Will the Tranny yoke bolt to the drive shaft or will it be custom built. Will the bellhousing fit the tranny tunnel or will you have to modify/fabricate a firewall. After it is all done all you have spent a lot of money for the same #of cyl, What did you gain???????? Even after it is all done should you decide to sell it who will buy it, anyone looking for an original one or one to put back to original will see WAY TOO MUCH WORK. If you are going to modify it, do it tastefully and do it bolt on. V8 is both.
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