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Joined: 11/28/2007 From: Bay Area, CA Status: offline
Hey what's up everyone...
I'm a new 07 V6 owner, since September 1st '07, but I've been surfing through MustangForums since my purchase and I just finally decided to become a member. Now, I won't ask all the newbie questions (what should my first mod be... where do I purchase CAI/Tune...etc.) but I do have a question about s/c... I've read about the X-Charger, Vortech, ProCharger, and the Saleens and Roushes(which they don't have for the sixes) and they all sound appealing but the one name that sticks out the most is Shelby. I came across the Shelby website, and I've read in magazines about the CS8 but not the CS6. I've read the info the Shelby site put, but I trust more on what owners have to say about it.
I guess my question is, if there are any owners of the Shelby/Paxton s/c or know anyone with one, how fair is it compared to the other s/c mentioned? Reliability? Dyno #'s?
In case anyone here missed it (which I'm positive everyone knows about it..) here's the gallery to Shelby's CS6, which in my opinion is the best looking modified V6 on the market now(which I believe is the only modded 6):
If you poke around the Shelby site you should find the forums. There's a guy called Paleoc that did a full CS6 build, plus a lot of other stuff. (Or try Googling "Paleoc CS6 built progress") It gives a lot of ups/downs of doing the conversion. He might even be on here as well, but I'm not sure.
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The Paxton is almost exactly the same as the Vortech HO with some differences in the head unit which is probably relatively minor. About half of the mod list was part of the Shelby CS6 Turn-2 Kit. The $13k (price has gone down and now includes more decorative parts) does not include paint and labor. Shelby is also making the Terlingua. Which if you take to one of their certified shops (Las Vegas, Massachusetts, Texas, Oklahoma and soon Florida) to have the conversion done comes as an actual numbered and Registered Shelby car. The Paxton on it gets pulleyed for more HP, it has an actual extraction hood, slightly better brakes and some of the remaining same or very similar parts. It has a wilder paint scheme which may or may not appeal to you. It will also probably take some time to get the conversion done as Shelby has a habit of releasing/showing prototypes before the conversion parts are widely available.
Or you can do the mods yourself and build the car to how you want it to look. A lot of people have installed the CS6 front fascia and little or nothing else. The parts are available separately. Between the superchargers, X-charger, procharger and Vortech/Paxton, it seems to be mostly personal preference. The X-charger being a roots type produces more low-end torque while the remaining centrifiguals produce more power at the higher band of rpms. The procharger and the vortech/paxton have different oiling schemes (self contained internal vs. external oiling).
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Joined: 11/28/2007 From: Bay Area, CA Status: offline
Thanks Paleoc! Very informative. I have a couple of questions though...
In terms as a daily driver car, what's the advatages of having self contained internal vs. external oiling? Also in another thread, someone said that the CS6 wouldn't be numbered and registered as a Shelby car... am I wrong or has that changed? If so, would you need the entire kit to be registered?
I love the entire kit of the CS6 but the stripes are a little too 'wild' for me. I think a simple, custom CS6 badge on the fender would be more appealing. And the price tag of 12k it's a little too much for me right now... I'm actually more interested in the s/c and to keep it in the Shelby family, I'd love the GT500 front fascia. I belive a member here has a V6 Vortech s/c and the GT500 front - absolutely beautiful.
BTW, amazing looking CS6 you got there!
< Message edited by Mr. L -- 11/29/2007 6:04:15 PM >
The Paxton is almost exactly the same as the Vortech HO with some differences in the head unit which is probably relatively minor. About half of the mod list was part of the Shelby CS6 Turn-2 Kit. The $13k (price has gone down and now includes more decorative parts) does not include paint and labor. Shelby is also making the Terlingua. Which if you take to one of their certified shops (Las Vegas, Massachusetts, Texas, Oklahoma and soon Florida) to have the conversion done comes as an actual numbered and Registered Shelby car. The Paxton on it gets pulleyed for more HP, it has an actual extraction hood, slightly better brakes and some of the remaining same or very similar parts. It has a wilder paint scheme which may or may not appeal to you. It will also probably take some time to get the conversion done as Shelby has a habit of releasing/showing prototypes before the conversion parts are widely available.
Or you can do the mods yourself and build the car to how you want it to look. A lot of people have installed the CS6 front fascia and little or nothing else. The parts are available separately. Between the superchargers, X-charger, procharger and Vortech/Paxton, it seems to be mostly personal preference. The X-charger being a roots type produces more low-end torque while the remaining centrifiguals produce more power at the higher band of rpms. The procharger and the vortech/paxton have different oiling schemes (self contained internal vs. external oiling).
I love that CS6!!! Do you have any wallpaper sized pictures you'd be willing to share?
Internal vs external oiling. I am going to repeat things that I have heard without and I stress without knowing them to factual other than just rumor. Alledgedly the internal oiling develops oil seal leaks after a while. Owners of the supercharger state that is not true. Since the internal oiled system has the oil already present rather than having it pumped up to the supercharger, alledgedly it promotes longer life since the system is always fully oiled particularly when the engine is started. Punching a hole in the oil pan and connecting a pump and lines is more complicated and harder to install. Again I repeat, this is all hearsay.
The CS6 is not a registered car. The Terlingua (which will be built by "authorized" dealers) will be.
I was cool on the graphics at first but they grew on me after a while. They supplied a CS logo to replace the horse on the faux gas cap but as I had already purchased a Ford Snake faux gas cap and preferred the snake and I felt that there were enough foot tall CS's on the car already without adding another 2 inch one to the trunk. I was going to use it on the horn button but Jason Cenora (of Hillbank) wanted it for his prototype CS8. As he had sold me the kit and had on multiple occassions bent way over backwards to help me, it was only fair and right to give to him.
And here's my car as originally delivered by the dealer.
That Redfire looks pretty awesome too. Too bad I didn't have the 15g's or I'd show you what the Torch Red looks like!! I love that front facia Hey, if anybody out there wants to donate a CS6 package so that we could all see what the Torch Red looks like, I'll let my car be the guinea pig !!
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ohh okay. to tell you the truth, i want to, and might, trade in my auto redfire for a manual sonic blue/vista blue just because of this cs6 thing :D
yes, i really like it that much, and yes, i am aware there is a redfire version of it, but i think the blue one looks better. however, i am not gonna do the whole kit, because of financial reasons
p.s. is the cs6 in the gallery sonic blue or vista blue?