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Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:02:00 AM   
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Hey everyone I just wanted to know what are the advantages of a v6 over a GT.  Performance wise and whateverwise you can think of.  Thanks

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:04:26 AM   
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Fuel economy and insurance rates.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:05:14 AM   
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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:18:19 AM   
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-V6's get 2mpg better in city and on the highway
-V6's weigh about 130lbs less than a GT, V6 has cheaper insurance rates
-V6 is about $6k cheaper than a GT, mods are cheaper for the V6
-Some of the same mods for the GT are cheaper for the V6
-Superchargers for the V6 are generally $1k less than superchargers for the GT
-The V6 has better reliability than the GT due to less hp per cubic inch.  

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:18:21 AM   
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i dont think it matters when your car looks as beautiful as yours does

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:22:24 AM   
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i dont think it matters when your car looks as beautiful as yours does


Yea seriously, he's got the power and the looks.


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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:28:39 AM   
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obviously the 16" skinnies!!.....those things are WAY TOO sick!!......i didnt feel worthy so i switched them with GT bullits...........also the v6 rocker panels are less stress if they get scratched compared to the nicely painted GT rockers. 

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:48:19 AM   
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obviously the 16" skinnies!!.....those things are WAY TOO sick!!......i didnt feel worthy so i switched them with GT bullits...........also the v6 rocker panels are less stress if they get scratched compared to the nicely painted GT rockers. 


Never thought of that, but you're right - rockers WILL get scratched, there's no way to protect them.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 11:54:09 AM   
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-The V6 has better reliability than the GT due to less hp per cubic inch.  


This is not correct!  You can't resist posting can you?

As for insurance, that is not correct as well.  Insurance is a moving target, it depends on too many factors, to include but not limited to:

-Age
-No of years driving
-Color of car
-Driving record
-Type of car
-Model of car
-Location
-Plan
-Type of use

I've seen GT owners with less insurance, and V6 owners with more and vice versa.   Though all things equal, it is generally cheaper to insure a less powerful car, that has a lower blue book value.  The autox guys tell me the V6 is slightly better balanced from a weight perspective when all things are equal.   And you can build up a v6 smart, and for less money though the potential is not as much.   But it depends on the deal you can get on the car, another moving target (xplan, price negotiation, loan rates, etc.).   Building an 11 second v6 is actually very affordable, and attractive if you do your research and learn from others mistakes.   Email me if you want my long list of mistakes!  LOL.






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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 12:04:51 PM   
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Well what about the engine itself?  I hear it is built stronger and better than the 8's and it revs faster right? That would mean that it hits it's power band faster than an eight would.  Correct me if im wrong.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 12:11:08 PM   
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Well what about the engine itself?  I hear it is built stronger and better than the 8's and it revs faster right? That would mean that it hits it's power band faster than an eight would.  Correct me if im wrong.


We have a stronger block, that can take more boost which muddies the waters once both cars hit the 11's.   We have stronger rods.   We both have crap pistons and the GTs have crap rods.   We have valve float issues at 350rwhp, they do not.   Not sure what else.  We have some weight advantages, like if you build up the 7.5 rear end instead of an 8.8 build up, that is like a 50lbs savings I think, and the motor is another sligth weight savings.  

Also, we had a big mpg thread awhile back on the 4.0 and 4.6, it turned out that the difference was 1 or 2mpg advantage max.  When measured out in typical dd use, it would take years to get a return on the savings.  The same equations were used when people try to decide between 3.55, 3.73 and 4.10s.  Just takes too long to get the savings back. 

The real value of it over the GT is with the asumption you got a great deal on the 6er from the dealership, carefully executed your mods, and can essentially build an 11 second car for $25-26K.   It's doable, but careful execution is key.    It was easier to articulate when the mark up on the GT's were 8k+, that is when I bought my sixer.   But now with ford trying to pump out both cars six times to sunday, the waters get muddy.   


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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 12:32:00 PM   
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Hey everyone I just wanted to know what are the advantages of a v6 over a GT.  Performance wise and whateverwise you can think of.  Thanks


Price.

But then you have those folks who say the resale of our 6ers loses it's value faster.
If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, I don't think it matters.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 12:46:15 PM   
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Yea, if you really value relsale, aside from a special edition mustang, the mustang is not really a wise choice.  Most people buy them because they love the look, price/performance ratio and history that come with the car.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 2:35:05 PM   
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I understand that with similar suspension mods, the V6 handles slightly better.  The GT has a tendency to push a little in turns, while the V6 is more neutral.  I know mine is very neutral but I haven't driven a GT to compare.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 2:46:47 PM   
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what ever happened to "a mustang is a mustang"?

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 2:49:38 PM   
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I understand that with similar suspension mods, the V6 handles slightly better.  The GT has a tendency to push a little in turns, while the V6 is more neutral.  I know mine is very neutral but I haven't driven a GT to compare.


if this is true, maybe it has to do with the slight weight difference?


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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 3:06:04 PM   
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I think it all boils down to personal choice and what you want from your Mustang. For a turn key, easy mid-high 13 second car, the GT is hard to beat(not just against the V-6, but against anything out there being made when costs of ownership, repairs and upkeep are factored in). Yes, resale takes a big hit, like others have said, but every new car takes a hit, a new $55K Bimmer is a $35K car in a few years, just to put things into perspective.
I nearly bought a V-6 back in early '05, but since I could afford a GT and always wanted one, to me, it was the only way to go. I wasn't looking for the fastest car(I would have bought a Fox body and made a 500hp terror for $12-15K if my objective was an 11 second daily driver), I wanted something that would take about 85-90% of the cars on the road, looked great and had the '"sound", nothing IMO beats a well tuned, dual exhaust American V-8 for music to the ears factor.
I know the V-6 is a great starting point to get very creative and make a serious street machine, but for myself, I didn't want to add a supercharger/convert to dual exhaust/add an LSD to make a fast(er) V-6, to me it sorta defeats the purpose of buying the V-6(sorry, but that's my opinion, hope all the V-6 people aren't mad at me for saying this) in the first place. I'm not saying one car is better than the other, they both serve a certain market place, and that's what's cool about owning a Mustang, you never need to apologize 'cause you chose the right car

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 3:08:29 PM   
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what ever happened to "a mustang is a mustang"?


+1

Only plus for me is the insurance rates. I bought the car for the looks, if it had an inline 4 I'd still buy it.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 3:43:28 PM   
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I wanted the new Mustang the minute I saw it. This from a Chevy man my whole life. Now the choice was made to get a V6 not by me but by my wife, she bought the car for me in Nov of 05. Was I disapointed by her decision? Not at all, we had talked about the new Mustang in passing all the while she was taking notes. I didn't need or want a GT, the added cost of the car was not worth it to me. Now, I have thouroghly enjoyed my V6. I had the  fortune to be in the same area as Doug  the tuning man, he was looking for a mule, I volunteered being an old hotrodder . That set me on the path to modify my V6, first it was Dougs early tunes , then the development of  a few CAI's, then the UDP, and now the X charger, 3:73's and a T Loc. For me I have enjoyed bending wrenches on my V6 making it perform in a way the factory had never intended, surprising the general public with it's ability. The GT is expected to be fast, it's expected to perform as well as the exhaust note indicates it should. No challenge there; no the challenge lies in making a secretarys car a screaming beast, A truely FAST Mustang, not one an engineer design but one we designed in our respective garages all across the country. When a GT goes screaming by you can say Ford did it right, when a V6 goes screaming by, you say MAN!! WAS THAT A V6???!!!.Thats why we modify V6 Mustangs.

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RE: Advantages of V6 over GT - 11/19/2007 3:59:28 PM   
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I wanted the new Mustang the minute I saw it. This from a Chevy man my whole life. Now the choice was made to get a V6 not by me but by my wife, she bought the car for me in Nov of 05. Was I disapointed by her decision? Not at all, we had talked about the new Mustang in passing all the while she was taking notes. I didn't need or want a GT, the added cost of the car was not worth it to me. Now, I have thouroghly enjoyed my V6. I had the  fortune to be in the same area as Doug  the tuning man, he was looking for a mule, I volunteered being an old hotrodder . That set me on the path to modify my V6, first it was Dougs early tunes , then the development of  a few CAI's, then the UDP, and now the X charger, 3:73's and a T Loc. For me I have enjoyed bending wrenches on my V6 making it perform in a way the factory had never intended, surprising the general public with it's ability. The GT is expected to be fast, it's expected to perform as well as the exhaust note indicates it should. No challenge there; no the challenge lies in making a secretarys car a screaming beast, A truely FAST Mustang, not one an engineer design but one we designed in our respective garages all across the country. When a GT goes screaming by you can say Ford did it right, when a V6 goes screaming by, you say MAN!! WAS THAT A V6???!!!.Thats why we modify V6 Mustangs.



wow....that was inspirational. i respect 05gtdriver's opinion also. what it all comes down to is personal perspective. both of you guys have understandable reasons for your thinking and neither is wrong IMO. whether u got a sixr or a GT, its pretty cool that we have such a legendary car to be proud of.

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