The S197 has been out for about three years now, so there are a lot of used V8's with low mileage out there. In fact, around $20k in my area will easily buy a 2006 GT with between 10k and 15k miles on it...factory warranty and everything.
If I were in the market for a Mustang, then a new V6 would be a very hard to sell to me over a low mileage used GT.
So, I guess the question is why select a new V6 over a used GT?
Gas mileage isn't really that different, insurance is far less on a depreciated car (unless you're under 25, I guess). The factory warranty is still in place, besides, 10k miles on a one owner car hardly seems abused.
Oh, I saw some posts about the Pony Package Grille. You can do something like that on a GT, too. Just add fog light bezels and a grille insert (not sure if they sell the inserts anymore?).
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I see what poohflingr is getting at, it's like as long as you're nice to the V-6 guys in this thread, if you're a GT person, you may post, if you're gonna say something objective, then stay away. I get that feeling too. That's not to say I want to say something negative towards the bent six crowd(I did that last year when I first joined the forums and MAN I thought I was gonna get sued, had moderators sending me warnings and other members sending me hate PMs, all because I told a fellow member, who traded a V-6 for a GT, that he got a r**l Mustang, in a joking manner, but I felt like a black dude at a Klan rally). I understand the forum etiquette better now(well since that first month after joining). Just like a big family, don't pick on the "smaller" siblings(is that gonna get me in trouble?). This is America, right? We still have freedom of speech, don't we? As long as it's an opinion and not a personal attack, shouldn't it be seen as such and we can still respect each other? BTW the pony package looks nice for the way the V-6's lines are, but IMO the Shelby GT looks the best of all the factory S197s, then the GT500, GT, the Bullitt and then the PP V-6. Although when the GT500KR makes it's presence, it'll be #1 for me.
Great post lol. I was laughing my ass off through it because ive seen that happen to people. Im all for both cars but there is a part that understands that 8s jsut sound like a beast from hell and theres nothing like it
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I can think of a few actual "advantages of V6 over GT": · Better actual front-to-rear balance (about 130 lbs less in front, I think) · Two fewer of everything having to do with cylinders (not so many parts to mix up at overhaul time) · Minuscule fuel savings under identical conditions · Considerable insurance-cost savings for younger/riskier drivers · No need to buy wheel locks (who's going to steal those ugly 16" wheels?) · More pleasant, quieter boulevard ride (on those ugly wheels and passenger-car tires - even inflated to the factory-recommended 35 psi) · Plenty of room for compulsive modders to operate (go ahead - name a V6 characteristic you don't want to sacrifice to gain something)
I can also remember the characteristics of the Mustang (that's what Ford calls the V6 - the GT is the GT, not to be confused with the Ford GT) that resulted in my choosing one (I could have had anything I wanted, and was considering an expensive furrin car): · Looks gooood, man · Looks really good · Even though it Looks Good, it's not pretentious · Even though it's not pretentious, it makes a statement I don't mind making to the world (not intending to offend GT owners, I don't want to spend every minute behind the wheel pretending I do actual Grand Touring - or even know what that is) · My first car was a black Ford Six, and it imprinted · With Belond Equa-Flo split manifold and Smithy mufflers, that car sounded great in the manner of the Jaguar and GMC world-beaters of the day - and it imprinted · I'd had fours, sixes (straight and V-), eights (straight and V-), and I never liked the sound of the fours and eights as much as the sound of the sixes · I have a penchant for doing really good things with underdogs or the disadvantaged (raced VEGAS - really - and a TR7 with some good results; worked with delinquent kids, ditto) · Plain and simple, the package appealed to me more than anything else I looked at - and I looked at plenty
So, you can see in my case it was a complex problem with complicated factors operating, and an end result determined at conscious and unconscious levels: I liked it best. Simple, really.
You can argue about conclusions from a given set of facts, but you can't argue with feelings and opinions. They might not be like yours, they might not be as "good" as yours, but there they are. Flog away all you want, you can't make a dent if I don't let you.
Rather than attack me for my opinions or feelings, you can set yours out for inspection. If you can't do that without getting all hot and personal, try this ancient saying, recently popularized by the King of Spain:
« ¿ Porqúe no te callas ? »
Resp'y,
Assuming this response was to me, (because my name was at the bottom?) when did I respond to anything you said or attack your opinion in any way? Ya' see I don't know the King of Spain so if that was a direct response to me please clarify.
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An interesting thread.
The S197 has been out for about three years now, so there are a lot of used V8's with low mileage out there. In fact, around $20k in my area will easily buy a 2006 GT with between 10k and 15k miles on it...factory warranty and everything.
If I were in the market for a Mustang, then a new V6 would be a very hard to sell to me over a low mileage used GT.
So, I guess the question is why select a new V6 over a used GT?
Gas mileage isn't really that different, insurance is far less on a depreciated car (unless you're under 25, I guess). The factory warranty is still in place, besides, 10k miles on a one owner car hardly seems abused.
Oh, I saw some posts about the Pony Package Grille. You can do something like that on a GT, too. Just add fog light bezels and a grille insert (not sure if they sell the inserts anymore?).
This is very true and a couple of my friends after seeing my Mustang wanted one real bad, so they bought used GT's. One had 19k miles for $19K....an '07. The other a 2006 had 27K miles for $22K, but it had a lot of mods on it plus $3K in rims alone.
Me, I wanted a new car to break in myself and at the time the Pony Package price was for me. It's nice jumping in a car with only 3 miles on it.
these threads always crack me up. it is what it is like it or not. some of us were happy with the six. like i said it was the body style that i wanted. not the pressure of having a big v8 heck on the movie i just finished in canada we just destroyed 6 v8 cars three were roush v8s one was a true gt500 cut it up and made it a buck put the 5.4 on a stand and made it run for a shot they needed in the car shop and the rest were regular gts all stick. we could have done the whole thing with v6 cars but they wanted gts. the cars are so close it really does not matter heck where i live in la i have been pulled over 5 times already if i had the 8 who knows. i have plenty of power i made the car the way i wanted i have been in over 5 magazines ( the featured car in 1 mentioned by name in 2 ) im the picture car for 2 diferant manufaturers and have been asked by others and turned them down. how many v8 guys can say that, really does it really mater v8 v6 inline 4 come on get over the petty chilish stuff. the few motor heads that need to be the biggest fine, have your fun look down on us or accept us. there are a great number of v6 guys that have proven our worth and have paid the price to get there. yea yea i know if we had 8s we would not have to but let me tell you i have seen plenty of 8s blow in the mindless quest for speed. get over it we are here and the number is growing!
Uhhh, what? So far nobody has insulted your car and you are spouting off about how many magazines you've been in and how childish somebody is! Are you reading these posts or just looking for an opportunity to tell us how much your car has accomplished? Please indulge me because I haven't seen anyone make a childish comment about your ride dude.
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not my ride just 6s in general. and dont worry everyone knows my ride i dont have to spout off about it. i was on this site long before u and ill be here long after you as well. i just get tired of theses threads poping up every few months or so. they are a waist of energy. they are all mustangs some are just more insecure than others.
Uh, FYI it was started by a V6 guy so you are off base. And again you direct your hostility at somebody that has yet to insult you. I think you are pickin' a fight with the wrong person bro because I got no quarrel with you, but someone will respond if you make a comment like the one you just did. You know it's funny, I check out the V6 part of the forum because I hear a lot of great ideas and innovative thinking. But once in a blue moon these posts come up and tend to get taken as a slap to one side or the other. Then you make it a "I've been here longer than you" issue? What does that have to do with anything? Does that make my opinion less valuable? I just want to understand where this attitude that "V8 guys all look down on V6 guys" comes from. In this entire post I have heard nothing but praise from the few GT guys that have responded, and more backhanded comments from V6 guys looking to jump a GT guy no matter how he responds! I have never said one bad thing about a V6 and never will because it's a Mustang, not only that but I have never driven one so how can I comment? But all this looking down on the V6 guy crap needs to be directed at a GT owner that is actually doing it and not at the guys that have shown support.
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first off it is funny how you jumped in and said i said you insulted me. i never did i just made a coment how these thread crack me up and yes there were some slight remarks from thers and you for some reason felt the need to defend yourself. and thats ok i mean like i said i have been in canada for the last 6 months working and now im home. these threads ahve been around for ever and keep on coming but i do see that they have cooled down over the years. but i dont like the coments from some that if gt guys dont say nice things they are no good. i have plenty of gt friends its not a gt thing or a v6 thing unless you make it one. think what you must and ill keep repling till the mods close the thread. and yes the thread was opened by a guy asking a basic question and as always it turned into this. as it always does. and no i dont pick fights you did. just posted a fact and it developed into this . you dont know me and dont judge me till you look bacl on some of my posts from before you came here. i have a few write ups and continually post TSB's here and on other sites. but to do the fact that i was out of the country i could not acsess the ford site. to update the newest tsb's there are about 8 new ones. i just downloaded. so think what you may and have fun with your gt.
Although you don't like the "GT guys are no good unless they make nice" comments, it is true! Also true is the double standard here. V6 guys don't want GT guys to look down on them, but they want to comment on the "advantages of the V6 over the GT". Or about how it's more practical to buy a V6 and make it faster. What's the difference? If you say something like that aren't you just feeding the fire? After all the things I see on your mod list and all you've done with your car what do you have to prove. And how have I judged you? You seem to be doing the judging here with your "look down on us" comments. I tell you what, can you find a blatant slap to any V6 in this thread? I can't find one! So if anyone caused this thread to go south it was you.
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it is called deathrace 3000. its a remake of the old campy deathrace in the 70s i was the special effects coordinator . we had mustangs , dodge rams bmrs jags a couple of 67 riv's and a trans am oh yea also a 300. lots of guns on them and lots of explosions. we actually shut down the city one afternoon due to on of the big exposions we did the thought an airplane had crrashed... Ops. any way it wont be out till summer it stars jason stathem from the transporter movies. i was there preping for 3 months and then we shot for 3 months. the bummer is that all the cars will be destroyed except for a few . you can go to IMDB.COM and look up Deathrace 3000. we had a 7mil budget just for the fx.it was alot of work 6 to 7 days 14 to 16 hours a day. i just glad to be home, it started snowing last week. the movie looks like it will be a fun ride i cant wait till its out so i can here feedback. its a shame i have to wait till the summer.
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as i said WAY early in this thread.......the advantages of the v6 are the 16" skinnies. hella nice! .........but seriously, i thought this thread was good as long as people stated "ACTUAL" advantages. always seems to turn into a pride thing instead of an informative thing. even though i was joking about the tires, its true to a point (cheaper to replace), even though most of us upgrade our wheels/tires. the factory rocker panels on the v6 are also an advantage since they wont hurt as much from scratches like the pretty painted gt rockers will. doesnt mean it looks better but it can still be looked at as an advantage. if people keep this thread going with facts and features only, then it can be some good info for others. JMO.
I think our stories,backgrounds and status quo are quite a mix as to who has what and for what reason.I looked into getting a gt after i figured out what was going on in the mustang world.I felt it a good idea to at least investigate the possibilities.For a variety of reasons i was too upside down to make that move without getting a BIG stick up the rear end!That,combined with the number of mods i had already done committed me to the direction i am headed.Next up is F/I. I do however,enjoy the uniqueness as around my part of town i have yet to see many modded late gt's or 4.0's.It will be fun being a sleeper 6.Who knows,maybe next round i will get the next gen gt and then be able to ask "man,why are you driving that gt? /jk" Just remember,us modders are but a small slice of the pie.Most people don't screw with cars that are'nt broke,rofl.It's just fun and enjoyable to do and doesnt necessairly have to make $$/hp sense,and it does'nt make them stupid.There are some very bright talented modders here(not me tho,lol but i try).I see plenty of guys who have a 4.0 who could have easily swung a gt(or better).TO EACH THIER OWN i say and respectfully so.I truly dig all mustangs,mmm,except maybe the mustang II i dunno if i were to light heartedly pick on one,lol.Just one guys perspective here.Hope it sheds some light.
+1, I am just tired of hearing about GT guy being an @ss because I already know there are some knucklehead GT owners out there that turn their noses up at V6 guy. The guy that does that is the same one that will trade the stang for a camaro or GTO because he's not a true fan of this vehicle, just a fan of the power. Besides the fact that I got a Mustang for the history, I bought the GT because of all things the sound of that engine. Sound bite after sound bite, I could not find the exact sound I wanted in any model but the GT. That includes the GT500, and Shelby, not just the V6. These threads are great as long as "GT owner looked down on me and hurt my feelings" doesn't screw it up.
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The v6/v8 threads are old and tiring as ****. We are all mustangs, we all lead in in our class for price/performance ratio. Let it go. Close the thread, and move on.
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In my opinion every time I see a plain v6 I just stare at it. It is the best looking factory s197. No lights in the grill, no spoiler, no bs wheels, no fake stripes, and no bs badging just old school style and sex appeal.
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). Just like a big family, don't pick on the "smaller" siblings(is that gonna get me in trouble?). This is America, right? We still have freedom of speech, don't we? As long as it's an opinion and not a personal attack, shouldn't it be seen as such and we can still respect each other? BTW the pony package looks nice for the way the V-6's lines are, but IMO the Shelby GT looks the best of all the factory S197s, then the GT500, GT, the Bullitt and then the PP V-6. Although when the GT500KR makes it's presence, it'll be #1 for me
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