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i say it all depends on what you want out of your car. i love just looking at my 40. these new stangs are the sexiest things on the road. period. i wanted a 40 so i could afford to drive it every day. if your truly looking to indulge in the performance aspect you gotta have the 5.4 at 500+ hp out of the box its the best bang for the buck. theres no replacement for displacement. you can run 10s with a slightly modded gt500 with external bolt ons and slicks. and you could build a clone for a fraction of the price out of a 40. so enjoy the ride for what it does for you.
I am always a little surprised at the people that say a Pony Package V6 looks better than a GT. Sure, some people may prefer the pony package grill better than the GT grill, but there are a number of other visual differences between the two vehicles that favor the GT.
The V6 front and rear fascia are very soft and rounded compared to the GT, the rocker panels are black, and the rear of the car has that hideous single muffler. Also, doesn't the pony package come with those stripes along the sides? Do people really like those? Overall, the GT looks much more muscular than the V6 (pony package or not).
Sure, a V6 can spend some money and add those GT parts, but I imagine a GT owner can just as easily put on a pony package type grill. The V6 certainly has it's advantages (and I've always been impressed by its status as fastest car under 20K), but the Pony Package itself hardly makes a good reason to pick a V6 over a GT.
I am always a little surprised at the people that say a Pony Package V6 looks better than a GT. Sure, some people may prefer the pony package grill better than the GT grill, but there are a number of other visual differences between the two vehicles that favor the GT.
The V6 front and rear fascia are very soft and rounded compared to the GT, the rocker panels are black, and the rear of the car has that hideous single muffler. Also, doesn't the pony package come with those stripes along the sides? Do people really like those? Overall, the GT looks much more muscular than the V6 (pony package or not).
Sure, a V6 can spend some money and add those GT parts, but I imagine a GT owner can just as easily put on a pony package type grill. The V6 certainly has it's advantages (and I've always been impressed by its status as fastest car under 20K), but the Pony Package itself hardly makes a good reason to pick a V6 over a GT.
Yet I know alot of people actually prefer the look of the V6 rear bumper with a cutout for duals. Also the PP didn't come with the side stripes, or at least mine didn't, maybe the dealer removed them.
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I am always a little surprised at the people that say a Pony Package V6 looks better than a GT. Sure, some people may prefer the pony package grill better than the GT grill, but there are a number of other visual differences between the two vehicles that favor the GT.
The V6 front and rear fascia are very soft and rounded compared to the GT, the rocker panels are black, and the rear of the car has that hideous single muffler. Also, doesn't the pony package come with those stripes along the sides? Do people really like those? Overall, the GT looks much more muscular than the V6 (pony package or not).
Sure, a V6 can spend some money and add those GT parts, but I imagine a GT owner can just as easily put on a pony package type grill. The V6 certainly has it's advantages (and I've always been impressed by its status as fastest car under 20K), but the Pony Package itself hardly makes a good reason to pick a V6 over a GT.
Don't forget those same rocker panels that are on a V6 are also on Shelby's. That's one of the reason's why I keep mine on.....if it's good enough for a Shelby, then it's good enough for me. Not only that, but with the V6 rocker panel you don't have to worry about chips or scratches like the GT rocker panel with it's paint. Yes, my Pony Package came with the side stripe and I love it! I think the car would look too plain without it.
I chose a V6 over a GT for two reasons, I bought two vehicles the same day, a V6 and an E-350 fiberglass body van/truck. Then turned around a month later and bought a Focus for my daughter. With the amount of money that I spent on all three cars (in cash) I could have easily paid for a Shelby or Saleen, but my family and business comes first. The Mustang is just for joyrides on weekends for me anyway. I don't need a V8 I have three other vehicles that have V8s, plus I owned a Mustang 5.0 once. I thought I would give the Pony Package a chance for something different, plus I loved the body style.
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I have an '04 GT and my wife has an '07 V6. I can honestly say the V8 exhaust note and manual tranny are the only reasons I like my GT better. In terms of power and handling, the V6 has plenty for me personally.
< Message edited by mikemc04gt -- 11/23/2007 1:42:16 PM >
for me the biggest thing was the diff. in insurance rates at first...but now that ive had my 6er for awhile i love it and i cant wait until my mods are done on it. i love "sleepers" i cant wait until someone pulls up next to me and i smoke them and they cant tell if it was a GT or a V6 that will be a good day
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The V6 front and rear fascia are very soft and rounded compared to the GT, the rocker panels are black, and the rear of the car has that hideous single muffler. Also, doesn't the pony package come with those stripes along the sides? Do people really like those? Overall, the GT looks much more muscular than the V6 (pony package or not). .
You might not have been old enough to have owned an original 64 1/2 to 72 Mustang, but I am and did. In fact, of the 6 guys that I typically hung out with in high school ('74 to '77), 5 of us owned used Mustangs. These were not the Boss versions or even the Mach 1''s and GT's. These were the standard run of the mill Mustangs. Now 1 of the 5 did have the straight line 6 banger and he did get ribbed a little, but the rest of us were 289's and 302's. The other friend owned a Pinto (Ouch). These ponies had just the right power for young drivers. Non of us wrecked our cars over this time frame. I wonder what our crash record would have been if we had of had 300 HP at our feet. And we did do a little back road racing too. Just don't tell my dad
The Pony Package appeals to me far more for these reasons than the GT. Thank you Ford.
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I really do like how the V6'ers look with the pony package and was looking for one when i was shopping. The reason i got a GT came about because my dad says "go big or dont go at all" i drove a mid 13 second car and he knew i wouldnt be happy with a stock V6, so id mod it, and during all of that time, make mistakes modding it, cost more $$ and eventually have a modded V6 with less resale. So i got the Gt first because i wasnt in the position to have my car down to put larger mods on it and it was still a quick car. I love the pony packages and would deffinatly consider one if the worst happened to my GT. And when i did take the cars for a drive i was amazed at the sound of my GT( had exhaust because of tradein) and it was sitting in my drive an hour after i test drove it. And to tell the truth, ive never heard a 4.0L with an aftermarket exhaust in person, so i had no comparison. -Jon
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I have said this before in a post that I posted in the street/strip section and it kinda goes along with what 05AV6 said. Everyone knows what a V8 can do why not be different and try something else....like a V6 and see what you can do with that?
The ones that keep kicking my butt at the track and make me look silly!!!!! LOL This is the best V6/V8 discussion I have seen. I love the 4.0 and is a great platform that responds to mods very well. I ended up with a GT becuase I got an A plan, older with no tickets so insurance diff was like $6/month. Fuel mileage is close and would not have bought a Mustang if mpg was a huge determining factor. I always support the 4.0 owners out there. I agree the pony package grill and fogs are the best looking, prefer the GT bumpers. Differences??? Unfortunately for all 4.0 owners are at a HUGE disadvantage in this area. For major mods is more expensive. Meaning this, like engine parts are not sitting on vendors shelves and must be special ordered or produced. Looking for a stroker build on a 4.0. It will be custom and you will be at the mercy of a builder that may or may not built up that motor before and will charge a ransom for it. I give props to those owners that have overcome those defecits. The 4.6 3v can be expensive! 4.0 owners check out prices for our sparkplugs!!!! WOW! My saying has been its not what is under the hood but whats in the soul. Long line the Mustang.
See getting a V6 worked great for me. I didnt have enough to get the 60K race set ups so i didnt want to get a stock GT. Well with the low price of the V6 i was happy. With me i have a jeep aswell and its paid off. This way when i do big work on the car i dont have to rush to finish so i can go to work. I also like the fact that because i didnt spend so much on the car i can pay for mods and such. Not to mention insurance for me is only 99$ and thats with a speeding ticket :)
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Um, I don't get it. Is this thread designed to make V6 owners feel good or GT owners feel bad? Last time I checked being a mustang owner was like, the best thing going today! We are all part of something awesome! I own a GT and have never failed to give props to any Mustang owner I see. Maybe I'll go to my Mom's place and ask her the advantages of my brother over me, since that's really what we are doing here. Don't get it twisted, this is a nice thread because it's very informing for those of us that don't drive a V6, and those that don't drive a GT. Sounds to me like some GT owner said something to a V6 owner thus spawning this thread. Ok news flash, there are a lot of @sshole GT owners out there that somehow think a V6 is not a real stang. It has been established many times on this forum that these guys are idiots so who cares? Now if I'm off base please tell me because I hate when a innocent thread meant to inform people turns into a GT's have ugly lines and V6's look too plain thread. I have heard some really great opinions here but there have been some unecessary comments about what is a beautiful car.
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Um, I don't get it. Is this thread designed to make V6 owners feel good or GT owners feel bad? Last time I checked being a mustang owner was like, the best thing going today! We are all part of something awesome! I own a GT and have never failed to give props to any Mustang owner I see. Maybe I'll go to my Mom's place and ask her the advantages of my brother over me, since that's really what we are doing here. Don't get it twisted, this is a nice thread because it's very informing for those of us that don't drive a V6, and those that don't drive a GT. Sounds to me like some GT owner said something to a V6 owner thus spawning this thread. Ok news flash, there are a lot of @sshole GT owners out there that somehow think a V6 is not a real stang. It has been established many times on this forum that these guys are idiots so who cares? Now if I'm off base please tell me because I hate when a innocent thread meant to inform people turns into a GT's have ugly lines and V6's look too plain thread. I have heard some really great opinions here but there have been some unecessary comments about what is a beautiful car.
From what ive seen no one is getting upset or getting out of hand. To me it seems people are jsut listing what they think are good and bad point. Granted one or two posts were ......... out there but so far I think this is a great thred.
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I believe I said I enjoyed the thread, but those "out there posts" are the ones I'm addressing. These threads always bring out a couple of those "why buy a GT when you can buy a V6 and make it faster then a stock GT" comments. As if there is a law that GT owners can't mod their cars. That being said, this is a good thread for those V6 owners that really want to know what their car is capable of, and a kick in the @ss to the GT owners that like to give crap to the V6 guys.
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i got the car for the body period!! i started madding it to have fun with it. i go plenty fast ive been featured in mags and people like it! and its still fun when i do go to the track to have people say wow thats a 6! the oh its a 6 crowed is getting smaller. we have proven ourselfs, its a car express yourself have fun and be safe. badger if you must but in the end it is your car and be happy with it. i know i am!
I can think of a few actual "advantages of V6 over GT": · Better actual front-to-rear balance (about 130 lbs less in front, I think) · Two fewer of everything having to do with cylinders (not so many parts to mix up at overhaul time) · Minuscule fuel savings under identical conditions · Considerable insurance-cost savings for younger/riskier drivers · No need to buy wheel locks (who's going to steal those ugly 16" wheels?) · More pleasant, quieter boulevard ride (on those ugly wheels and passenger-car tires - even inflated to the factory-recommended 35 psi) · Plenty of room for compulsive modders to operate (go ahead - name a V6 characteristic you don't want to sacrifice to gain something)
I can also remember the characteristics of the Mustang (that's what Ford calls the V6 - the GT is the GT, not to be confused with the Ford GT) that resulted in my choosing one (I could have had anything I wanted, and was considering an expensive furrin car): · Looks gooood, man · Looks really good · Even though it Looks Good, it's not pretentious · Even though it's not pretentious, it makes a statement I don't mind making to the world (not intending to offend GT owners, I don't want to spend every minute behind the wheel pretending I do actual Grand Touring - or even know what that is) · My first car was a black Ford Six, and it imprinted · With Belond Equa-Flo split manifold and Smithy mufflers, that car sounded great in the manner of the Jaguar and GMC world-beaters of the day - and it imprinted · I'd had fours, sixes (straight and V-), eights (straight and V-), and I never liked the sound of the fours and eights as much as the sound of the sixes · I have a penchant for doing really good things with underdogs or the disadvantaged (raced VEGAS - really - and a TR7 with some good results; worked with delinquent kids, ditto) · Plain and simple, the package appealed to me more than anything else I looked at - and I looked at plenty
So, you can see in my case it was a complex problem with complicated factors operating, and an end result determined at conscious and unconscious levels: I liked it best. Simple, really.
You can argue about conclusions from a given set of facts, but you can't argue with feelings and opinions. They might not be like yours, they might not be as "good" as yours, but there they are. Flog away all you want, you can't make a dent if I don't let you.
Rather than attack me for my opinions or feelings, you can set yours out for inspection. If you can't do that without getting all hot and personal, try this ancient saying, recently popularized by the King of Spain:
When I get my GT out in the spring I am going to unplug two plug wires in honor of this excellent thread that is more about peace and togetherness than it is about cylinders.
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I see what poohflingr is getting at, it's like as long as you're nice to the V-6 guys in this thread, if you're a GT person, you may post, if you're gonna say something objective, then stay away. I get that feeling too. That's not to say I want to say something negative towards the bent six crowd(I did that last year when I first joined the forums and MAN I thought I was gonna get sued, had moderators sending me warnings and other members sending me hate PMs, all because I told a fellow member, who traded a V-6 for a GT, that he got a r**l Mustang, in a joking manner, but I felt like a black dude at a Klan rally). I understand the forum etiquette better now(well since that first month after joining). Just like a big family, don't pick on the "smaller" siblings(is that gonna get me in trouble?). This is America, right? We still have freedom of speech, don't we? As long as it's an opinion and not a personal attack, shouldn't it be seen as such and we can still respect each other? BTW the pony package looks nice for the way the V-6's lines are, but IMO the Shelby GT looks the best of all the factory S197s, then the GT500, GT, the Bullitt and then the PP V-6. Although when the GT500KR makes it's presence, it'll be #1 for me.
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