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marshallmadman -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/30/2008 4:25:51 PM)

I still don't see where you get your 7000 dollar difference!!!

1.) You don't own either car.
2.) I paid $34,788 plus TTL&D for a Shelby GT
3.) I would have paid 32,555 plus TTL&D for a Bullitt

Real world difference is $2233. Make your judgement based on that, not the $7000 you talk about. Those are two real prices from competing dealership while I was really buying a car and not just typing about it on my keyboard.

There are no extra gauges on the Shelby! I have no idea what you are talking about there. Why would that hood scoop need to be functional? The car lacks a 4 barrel carb. There's a reason why the hood scoop is non funtional.

I will be putting 3:73 gears in my car. That is the one thing I really wish it had. Oh yeah, and the Bullitt has a cooler shift knob, IMO.

That's the real difference. Here are your real skid pad numbers as well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlqjChw9H3A

That's the Edmunds video where they really hate the Mustang and love the STI...before they even test either car. I have never quite seen a car as ugly as the Subaru STI, but to each his own.


  

83gtragtop -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/30/2008 5:56:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black GT500

Yeah wouldn’t that fit right along with the rest of your Bull$hit.  Not!

It is a 2007 SGT, you got caught with your foot in your mouth calling me a liar or idiot when ultimately you are a big-mouthed blowhard who doesn’t quite know as much as you think you do.

If you actually do work so closely with so many Ford dealers, you can find this car with its VIN.  I doubt you do, but if you indeed do you can locate this car now.  This method allows you to prove you were not overstating your connections with Ford dealers and prove you don’t know everything there is to know about SGT pricing all at the same time.  Give them a call; I’ll wait for your public apology posted here. 

Here is the VIN: 1ZVHT82H875315943




1. I audit Ford Dealers that are in Ford's Dealer Development program. My firm only audits dealers on the west coast. I can only access VIN's and other vehicle information from Dealers that we audit. I do not have access to every dealer in the nation.

2. Showing the dealer markup does not prove anything. Like I said before, I was at a dealer last week that had a base '08 GT500 with a 70k sticker on it. Do think that dealer is really only going to except 25k over! Maybe a year ago. Now they will probably let it go for 5k over. That sticker you to took a pic of has probably been on the car since they to delevery of it back in mid 2007. If they are really sticking to that markup then like I said, just laugh at them because that is a f*ckin joke.

3. Did you not see the links I provided you!

4. A mutual friend of mine purchased a '07 SGT three weeks ago for 33k before TTL&D. That is $500 under the dealers cost of $36990 and then less the factory discount on all 2007 mustangs(except GT500) of $3500, bring it to $33,000. My other buddy is in the market to purchase one to sit along side his '03 Mach and has decided that he wants an '07 for no more then $32k before TTL&D. He has talked to a dealer in Texas that would do somewhere in the low 31's but he wants white and it is black.

Point is Shelby GT's are selling for just a couple grand more then the Bullit. Period.


walc -> RE: Bullet verses Shelby GT comparison (3/30/2008 7:36:47 PM)

Now that the initial shortage is over, dealers in my area are starting to sell Bullets at around $500 over invoice, which is around $2000 off MSRP.
At current pricing, I think the SGT's and the Bullets are both great cars, at very attractive prices. The GT500's, at MSRP, are too, which is what I paid a few weeks ago. [:)]


Black GT500 -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/31/2008 1:44:52 AM)

Base Bullitt pricing from edmunds.com 3-30-2008

http://www.edmunds.com  

2008 Ford Mustang GT Premium 2dr Coupe (4.6L 8cyl 5M)                    

MSRP                          Invoice            

National Base Price            
$27,420                      $25,248                                   

Optional Equipment             54B Bullitt Package                                    
$3,310                         $2,879                          

Black Clearcoat            
-                              -  

Destination Charge            
$795                            $795     

Total with Options             
$31,525                      $28,922  

Incentives & Rebates                                                          
-$1,500

Total with Options,  With Incentives & Rebates                                                 
$27,422

Oh Fer CRYING OUT LOUD! 
The SHELBY GT Package is a $7300+ package!
Its one thing to buy a Shelby GT, even to lie to yourself about it, you have to do what you have to do, just don't try passing your BS off on me.

FYI:
You don't know what I own, My 2008 Bullitt is being built the week of April 7th.  Bullitts are selling at Invoice today.


$34,788 Your Shelby GT Price
Minus

$27,422 Bullitt Price Today
Equals

$7,366 Difference

If you take 83gtragtop's figure of $3500 cash back the Bullitt today is only $25,422 that's $9,366 less than you paid for your Shelby GT.


Do you see it now?


quote:

ORIGINAL: marshallmadman

I still don't see where you get your 7000 dollar difference!!!

1.) You don't own either car.
2.) I paid $34,788 plus TTL&D for a Shelby GT
3.) I would have paid 32,555 plus TTL&D for a Bullitt

Real world difference is $2233. Make your judgement based on that, not the $7000 you talk about. Those are two real prices from competing dealership while I was really buying a car and not just typing about it on my keyboard.

There are no extra gauges on the Shelby! I have no idea what you are talking about there. Why would that hood scoop need to be functional? The car lacks a 4 barrel carb. There's a reason why the hood scoop is non funtional.

I will be putting 3:73 gears in my car. That is the one thing I really wish it had. Oh yeah, and the Bullitt has a cooler shift knob, IMO.

That's the real difference. Here are your real skid pad numbers as well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlqjChw9H3A

That's the Edmunds video where they really hate the Mustang and love the STI...before they even test either car. I have never quite seen a car as ugly as the Subaru STI, but to each his own.


jdmcbride -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/31/2008 5:49:17 AM)

The rebates do not apply to the 08 Bullitt.  I know, I looked at one before buying my 08 GT two weeks ago.

The SGT is nice and a good attention-getter, but I am not into fake scoops.  To each their own...


83gtragtop -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/31/2008 11:05:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black GT500

Base Bullitt pricing from edmunds.com 3-30-2008

http://www.edmunds.com  

2008 Ford Mustang GT Premium 2dr Coupe (4.6L 8cyl 5M)                    

MSRP                          Invoice            

National Base Price            
$27,420                      $25,248                                   

Optional Equipment             54B Bullitt Package                                    
$3,310                         $2,879                          

Black Clearcoat            
-                              -  

Destination Charge            
$795                            $795     

Total with Options             
$31,525                      $28,922  

Incentives & Rebates                                                          
-$1,500

Total with Options,  With Incentives & Rebates                                                 
$27,422

Oh Fer CRYING OUT LOUD! 
The SHELBY GT Package is a $7300+ package!
Its one thing to buy a Shelby GT, even to lie to yourself about it, you have to do what you have to do, just don't try passing your BS off on me.

FYI:
You don't know what I own, My 2008 Bullitt is being built the week of April 7th.  Bullitts are selling at Invoice today.


$34,788 Your Shelby GT Price
Minus

$27,422 Bullitt Price Today
Equals

$7,366 Difference

If you take 83gtragtop's figure of $3500 cash back the Bullitt today is only $25,422 that's $9,366 less than you paid for your Shelby GT.


Do you see it now?


quote:

ORIGINAL: marshallmadman

I still don't see where you get your 7000 dollar difference!!!

1.) You don't own either car.
2.) I paid $34,788 plus TTL&D for a Shelby GT
3.) I would have paid 32,555 plus TTL&D for a Bullitt

Real world difference is $2233. Make your judgement based on that, not the $7000 you talk about. Those are two real prices from competing dealership while I was really buying a car and not just typing about it on my keyboard.

There are no extra gauges on the Shelby! I have no idea what you are talking about there. Why would that hood scoop need to be functional? The car lacks a 4 barrel carb. There's a reason why the hood scoop is non funtional.

I will be putting 3:73 gears in my car. That is the one thing I really wish it had. Oh yeah, and the Bullitt has a cooler shift knob, IMO.

That's the real difference. Here are your real skid pad numbers as well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlqjChw9H3A

That's the Edmunds video where they really hate the Mustang and love the STI...before they even test either car. I have never quite seen a car as ugly as the Subaru STI, but to each his own.



No rebates are offered on the Bullit. I see the Bullits going for just over 30k and the SGT are going for 33k. Yes the SGT is a 7 grand package. Like you said, its not worth 7k. Which is why these cars are selling for under cost plus a $3500 rebate, making them a good deal at 33k.


Black GT500 -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (3/31/2008 3:01:49 PM)

Agreed! 

At $33,000 or less the Shelby GT is a very good deal!  
But at even $38,000 not to mention $48,000 the SGT is simply over priced.

Now, at that price if I could get one with stripe delete, scoop delete, and add the GT500 seats and factory 3.73/1 gears I would be all over the SGT.  Oh, and mine would definitely have the Shelby front brake cooling ducts.  Or I guess I can just stick with my new Bullitt...

For what you get I think the SGT should be priced about the same or slightly lower than the Bullitt.  Either one of them the Bullitt or the Shelby GT priced in the low thirties is a lot of Mustang for a fairly (relatively speaking) reasonable price, and is a very good thing for all Mustang enthusiasts!



quote:

ORIGINAL: 83gtragtop

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black GT500

Base Bullitt pricing from edmunds.com 3-30-2008

http://www.edmunds.com  

2008 Ford Mustang GT Premium 2dr Coupe (4.6L 8cyl 5M)                    

MSRP                          Invoice            

National Base Price            
$27,420                      $25,248                                   

Optional Equipment             54B Bullitt Package                                    
$3,310                         $2,879                          

Black Clearcoat            
-                              -  

Destination Charge            
$795                            $795     

Total with Options             
$31,525                      $28,922  

Incentives & Rebates                                                          
-$1,500

Total with Options,  With Incentives & Rebates                                                 
$27,422

Oh Fer CRYING OUT LOUD! 
The SHELBY GT Package is a $7300+ package!
Its one thing to buy a Shelby GT, even to lie to yourself about it, you have to do what you have to do, just don't try passing your BS off on me.

FYI:
You don't know what I own, My 2008 Bullitt is being built the week of April 7th.  Bullitts are selling at Invoice today.


$34,788 Your Shelby GT Price
Minus

$27,422 Bullitt Price Today
Equals

$7,366 Difference

If you take 83gtragtop's figure of $3500 cash back the Bullitt today is only $25,422 that's $9,366 less than you paid for your Shelby GT.


Do you see it now?


quote:

ORIGINAL: marshallmadman

I still don't see where you get your 7000 dollar difference!!!

1.) You don't own either car.
2.) I paid $34,788 plus TTL&D for a Shelby GT
3.) I would have paid 32,555 plus TTL&D for a Bullitt

Real world difference is $2233. Make your judgement based on that, not the $7000 you talk about. Those are two real prices from competing dealership while I was really buying a car and not just typing about it on my keyboard.

There are no extra gauges on the Shelby! I have no idea what you are talking about there. Why would that hood scoop need to be functional? The car lacks a 4 barrel carb. There's a reason why the hood scoop is non funtional.

I will be putting 3:73 gears in my car. That is the one thing I really wish it had. Oh yeah, and the Bullitt has a cooler shift knob, IMO.

That's the real difference. Here are your real skid pad numbers as well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlqjChw9H3A

That's the Edmunds video where they really hate the Mustang and love the STI...before they even test either car. I have never quite seen a car as ugly as the Subaru STI, but to each his own.



No rebates are offered on the Bullit. I see the Bullits going for just over 30k and the SGT are going for 33k. Yes the SGT is a 7 grand package. Like you said, its not worth 7k. Which is why these cars are selling for under cost plus a $3500 rebate, making them a good deal at 33k.


83gtragtop -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/1/2008 9:14:30 AM)

Just so you know my buddy just bought an '07 SGT on ebay last night for $29,999. Now thats a deal!


Black GT500 -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/1/2008 2:48:22 PM)

$1,500 rebate announced on Bullitt...
2008 Bullitts finally get the same rebate and finance specials as regular GT's...

$1,500 rebate or 1.9/2.9/3.9/5.9% for 36/48/60/72 months, on approval of credit.

This is not an April Fool's Joke - it's the real deal announced by Ford Motor Company today.


walc -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/1/2008 8:29:26 PM)

I just took advantage of the $1500 rebate, and X-Plan, to add a highland green Bullitt to my fleet.
[:)] 


2cokeman -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/2/2008 5:21:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: 83gtragtop

Just so you know my buddy just bought an '07 SGT on ebay last night for $29,999. Now thats a deal!


Brand new or USED?


83gtragtop -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/2/2008 9:28:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: 2cokeman


quote:

ORIGINAL: 83gtragtop

Just so you know my buddy just bought an '07 SGT on ebay last night for $29,999. Now thats a deal!


Brand new or USED?


New


BiteTheBullitt -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/5/2008 9:51:33 PM)

hello all.  this is my first post and i wanted to share that i bought green bullitt on april 1, 08 and received a 3k rebate from ford.  i was out the door for just under 32k, and msrp was $32,720.  this took place at alexander ford in franklin, tn.  they were really great to deal with.  they had a couple of gt500's, but the bullitt is the look i was after.  not bad perfomance either. 


2cokeman -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 6:00:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BiteTheBullitt

hello all.  this is my first post and i wanted to share that i bought green bullitt on april 1, 08 and received a 3k rebate from ford.  i was out the door for just under 32k, and msrp was $32,720.  this took place at alexander ford in franklin, tn.  they were really great to deal with.  they had a couple of gt500's, but the bullitt is the look i was after.  not bad perfomance either. 


CONGRATS!! You will love it, Pay no attention to the BULLITT haters on this forum and you will be fine!!


08 Bullitt 2310 -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 6:59:49 AM)

^^^^^^^^^What he said!Steve would say F$#K EM'!


07GTEddy -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 7:21:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BiteTheBullitt

hello all.  this is my first post and i wanted to share that i bought green bullitt on april 1, 08 and received a 3k rebate from ford.  i was out the door for just under 32k, and msrp was $32,720.  this took place at alexander ford in franklin, tn.  they were really great to deal with.  they had a couple of gt500's, but the bullitt is the look i was after.  not bad perfomance either. 




Exactly!

Congrats on your new Bullitt and sorry but,



Your post is WORTHLESS without some pic's man!


What do you guy's think about the "Black" Bullitts?

I was at Stillin yesterday and there was one there. The black for me, took away the whole Bullit theme? But, thats just me.......


wmtheflash -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 7:23:38 AM)

Looks like it's a good time to purchase a a Bullitt.  Ford just put up to $2,500 in incentives on them for April.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/03/mustang-bullitt-included-in-fords-april-incentives/


bkuhl -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 9:11:40 PM)

I recently went to a dealership  to check out an 08 GT/CS....inside, they had 2 - 08 Shelby GT's and 1- 08 Black Bullitt.  Price on the Bullitt aprox 33,000 and the 2 Shelby's 45,000.  Talked with the manager and he is saying that he is willing to let either go for the sticker price which would be aprox 31,500 + T/T for the Bullitt and aprox 41,000 + T/T for the Shelby.   From the small number of post I've seen, it appears that the Bullitt is the better performance bargain of the two but the Shelby is better looking and should hold value better in the time.  To me, the Bullitt is just so plain looking...it's great that it performs well, but I also want something I an proud to look at as well.  I had pretty much given up the idea of getting a Shelby due to rediculous dealer price increases on the GT500 and the SGT...but if they are willing to sell at sticker, might be worth it .  Does anyone know if the 60 month @ 3.9% interest rate applies to the Bullitt and SGT?  The manager said there were no incentives on either car.  Any thoughts or ideas are appreciated.


Orion_240 -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/6/2008 11:06:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

Exactly!

Congrats on your new Bullitt and sorry but,



Your post is WORTHLESS without some pic's man!


What do you guy's think about the "Black" Bullitts?

I was at Stillin yesterday and there was one there. The black for me, took away the whole Bullit theme? But, thats just me.......


I actually got to test drive a Bullitt today. Went with a black one, since I feel it will hold higher resale value, due to the popularity of black Mustangs. They had to search around for a shifter, because someone had stolen it out of the car!
I really liked the burst of power, which mostly comes from going to a manual tranny, and the sound is amazing!
I wish they'd let me test drive a Shelby GT to compare but those are still off limits.

With a trade-in I could get them down below MSRP, but most of those "great deals" you see here are fantasy (especially the ones on the Shelby GT), and I won't believe any more OTD claims until I see the actual Bill of Sale!


jbnetdev -> RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison (4/7/2008 3:29:50 AM)

This topic is like comparing apples to oranges. I paid rougly over 41 K out the doorcfor my shelby and im totally happy i did. The main  purpose was to fill my long time dream of owning a   real shelby GT mustang. If you are going to argue paying 10 K + more for a shelby over a GT is lame it dont hold water. I will argue that if you compare the price of a 67 cobra and the price of a 67  MUSTANG IN 67  the shelby COBRA blows away a mustang in over all value. Ive heard some 67 cobras have been getting over 1 million $$. Shelby in time has never lost value ever. ANd you can bet that the 07 shelby wil be worth much more then any GT and keep its value as time passes. I bought my 2007 about 1 year ago and i have yet to see another shelby like mine on the road. My car is allready rare ..ANd last point a shelby is a different car then a Mustang GT . A shelby IS A Shelby a mustang is just that a mustang A DIME A DOZEN. You dont buy a shelby to get around everyday you buy it as a collection item totally different then a normal purchase of any average car.


  

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