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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/6/2008 7:28:26 PM   
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Hum...  The Bullitt Package for a $3000 price tag or the Shelby GT package for that same $3000 PLUS an additional $7500   

Comparable power improvements
Comparable suspension improvements (A.)
Much better cold air intake on the Bullitt
Most of all MUCH better gears 3.73/1 in the Bullitt
Straight line or in the corners, The Bullitt will flat spank the Shelby GT! (B.)

Bunch of RICE looking scoops, stripes and cheap hood pins and redundant gauges glued to the dash on the SGT
Very clean, stealthy Bling and Rice free look and much better seats in the Bullitt (C.)

The Bullitt package
54B – Bullitt Package       $2879/$3310
Bullitt Total                    $2879/$3310

The Shelby GT package
GT Upfitters Package     $2140
Shelby GT Package        $7390
Gas Guzzler Tax            $1000  WTF is that?
Shelby GT Total             $10530

This looks like a no brainer for me.  Pay $7500 for the Shelby name and a bunch of less than tasteful bling, or pocket that $7500 and drive a very stealthy factory Mustang that will spank and stock Mustang GT or Mustang Shelby GT.

How’s that for an opinion? (D.)


A.  Nowhere comparable if you have actually driven both as I have.
B.  Hardly...not just my opinion but the opinion of 6 other people at the dealership.
C.  You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
D.  Fine as an opinion as long as you don't portray A. as a fact. 

Now for my opinion.

I really liked the Bullet.  The exhaust sounds awesome, the color is unique and the dash is actually not as bad as I thought it would look in person.  The seats and steering wheel are very nice.

Now the shifter was better than a stock GT but it was too long compared to the short throw of the Hurst shifter.  The suspension although better than the stock GT was NOT even close to the FRPP suspension.  Now as said below, you could add that to the Bullet and have a very nice car...that is subdued.  Granted once you do that you are looking at almost exactly the price you could get a 2007 Shelby GT. 

Either way I advise you to drive both and decide for yourself.  We all have opinions but they are not yours.  I wanted a GT500 originally, but got the Shelby GT and there is no way I would trade it for anything.  Even if it was for a GT500 now.

Good luck on whichever you decide!

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/9/2008 5:27:50 AM   
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i faced the same decion 2 month ago i bought a hertz shelby for $4000 more then the bullet ,i think it will hold the value better   lol

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/9/2008 7:02:32 AM   
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I' thinking of  a mustang...  hold your fire ..I dig mustangs too.
I wanna know more about the  BULLITT Mustang

I dont drive my car that often & when I do I miss the manual tranny....
That said I'm considering a  hopped up Mustang GT or a Shelby GT or the new  Bullitt  ( not the GT500 although if money were no object  that would be the choice  but I'd rasther have another Z06 )

My sources indicate the Bullitt is a better off the rack bargain than the Shelby GT.  Unless the dealers mark them up like crazy.....
most SGT's are around $36 but the Bullitt suggested prices are $33
the two decent comparisons I've found are .2 secs  diff 0-60 times
both are thirsty  , neither offers a 6th gear & the bullitt has a lower  rearend 3:73 opposed to 3:55 for the  SGT
but the  Bullitt will run on regular for daily driving....
If I got a SGT i'd be more inclined to pamper it as a collector but a  hopped up GT or even Bullitt would /coild be more enjoyed in the real world  on real streets
I was wondering ..what do you  'stang guys think about this new BULLITT????



I'm going to offer a different perspective.  If I were looking for a special edition, then I'd get the Builltt for it's improved ride quality over the Shelby GT.

I have a C5 Corvette and a S197 Mustang GT with all of the Shelby GT performance items (3.73 gears, Cold Air Intake, Strut Tower Brace), except for the handling package, although I do have aftermarket Lower Control Arms.  It's a great package, too.  Must livelier than a stock GT.  Those modifications are well worth the money.

Why waste money trying to make a Mustang handle?  It's primarily for drag racing.  When you do that, you ruin what it does better than the Corvette, namely, better  ground clearence and  good ride quality. It's a welcome change when I drive my S197 over speed bumps and into steep driveways.  I never have to worry about it bottoming out...ever.  Why would I want to mess that up by lowering it?  

Generally, I think the Shelby GT has a better looking grille.  No problem, you could switch that out inexpensively with an aftermarket grille and save the factory original.


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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/9/2008 7:57:00 AM   
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A Mustang is a Mustang, but a Shelby is _not...   You can't put a concrete value on that man's signature, and he won't be around forever.   So here is the compromise:  Get a SGT and add the 3:73 gears. Case closed - you will have a better car that will perform better and hold resale value longer than any other modified Mustang on the planet. 

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/9/2008 10:04:02 AM   
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The Shelby GT is a kick ass car,if you buy it for the right price.Don't buy a car based on a man's name.buy it because it kicks azz.BTW the Shelby GT insures like a Mustang GT,So when it comes time for an insurance payout,Be prepared to recieve Mustang GT value unless otherwise stated at the policies inception.As far as values go,These are long term if you consider it an investment at best.Will it bring more than a Mustang GT,Sure it will.But it costs more to start with,Duh!Shelby Automotive will live on after Carrol Shelby is dead so don't base your decision on that nonsense.A car is a commodity,Buy the one that turns you on at a price that makes you happy.Is the Shelby GT a better car than the Bullitt?No,It's a different car,Made for a different purpose.That being said if you could but either at the same price,I would buy the Shelby every time.Unfortunately a Bullitt cost me 31,900.An 08 Shelby GT will cost you at least 37k.Buy what you like after you test drive both,There are enough significant differences to warrant an objection on the comparison.

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/10/2008 2:15:16 PM   
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I have owned one of each,Had an 07 Shelby GT 5 speed in Performance White,Awesome handling car!Pretty quick,Draws more attention than a naked chick in church!If you are going to buy a leftover 07,And can find one at 33K,Buy it!That being said,The Bullitt rides a little better,but obviously doesn't handle as well.But it can run on either 87 or 91 octane fuel which may be a concern if you drive it much,Has much nicer seats and steering wheel(Gt500 stuff).And is quicker in the quarter by about two or three tenths thanks to the 3:73 vs the 3:55 which is standard in the SGT.Now if you are going to buy an 08 Shelby GT,I'd go with the Bullitt,That's what I did and don't regret it at all!


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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/10/2008 2:16:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wahooo

i faced the same decion 2 month ago i bought a hertz shelby for $4000 more then the bullet ,i think it will hold the value better   lol


How many Miles were on it?

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/15/2008 1:51:30 PM   
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2008 Ford Mustang GT Bullitt Review

Special edition vehicles should be exactly that. They should offer something exceptional enough to tempt you to dig deeper in your pocket and drive away in a vehicle that's, well, special. “Investment” and historical issues aside, the Mustang Shelby GT didn’t provide a look and feel that justified the massive amount of extra coin demanded by dealers. By the same token, The Bullitt Mustang succeeds. It’s truly a unique set of wheels.

It’s easy to miss/dismiss the Bullitt Mustang as a Secretary’s Special. The Bullitt eschews all the fake hood scoop and plastic louver jewelry associated with modded ‘Stangs. The Ford style team stripped all chrome and badging from the GT’s exterior, deleted the spoiler. They added a satin aluminum grill surround (in honor of the ‘68’s chrome bumper), a Bullitt badge on the trunk lid and dark grey Bullitt “Torq Thrust” wheels. And called it good.

Taken as a whole, the Ford Mustang GT Bullitt oozes understated cool. Forsaking Roush-style flash prevalent in Ford’s other special edition Mustangs, the Bullitt Mustang channels the aura of Lieutenant Frank Bullitt (Steve McQueen). In your mind’s eye, you can see the Bullitt Mustang laying in wait, ready to pounce on any black Charger that speeds by in the hills of San Francisco…

The machined aluminum shifter knob connected to a close-ratio, short-shift Tremec five-speed adds to the excitement. Smooth, quick and assuring, the shifter puts Hurst’s Shelby GT stick-in-sand shifter to absolute shame. Ford also included machined aluminum pedals positioned to facilitate heel and toeing– providing you’re wearing large shoes.

Ford borrowed many of the Shelby GT’s suspension components to liven-up, I mean “improve,” the standard GT’s handling.

The Bullitt’s ride quality sacrifices those extra two-tenths of handling ability to offer some daily usability. The ride of the Mustang Bullitt mimics not the original 1968 movie car, but a 2003 BMW 5-series. The Bullitt bounces dramatically only over the worst patches of interstate.

While not quite perfect, the Mustang GT Bullitt edition comes as close as the current body style allows. The Mustang Bullitt does more than the Shelby GT, with more style and some $6K less wedge. It echoes the original character of not only the movie car but the King of Cool himself. Aside from the tatty interior, the Ford Mustang GT Bullitt is what all Mustangs should be.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/reviews/2008-ford-mustang-gt-bullittt-review/

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/15/2008 4:18:29 PM   
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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/17/2008 6:54:29 PM   
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I wouldn't buy a Bullitt personally.  Comparing the handling performance of a Bullitt vs. a Shelby GT sort of funny, because a Bullitt really isn't anything better than a standard GT with a set of Koni's installed ($700 and better control). 

I Bullitt isn't all that exclusive, and it's all show with not a whole lot of extra go.  I'd sooner recommend you do what I did, and buy a normal GT.  I mean a set of 3.73's isn't much, but with $100 3.55's I don't think it's really worth it.  And you can take the money you saved and have a car even faster and more capable than a Bullitt (which really isn't very special).

Hey, a friend of mine has an SGT.  I autocross it, and I win with it.  Because of rules we can't really use a "normal" car and hop it up for the class we race.  We (and by we I mean he) bought a tool for a job.  When I bought my Mustang, I thought the best decision was to spend $24k on a 3.55, Shaker 500 equipped car and add what I wanted. 

In the end, at least an SGT is a real Shelby (which is more than I can say for a GT500).  It has a Shelby Serial Number, and is "built" by Shelby.  A Bullitt is simply another option added a Mustang.  Might it be worth a bit more than a standard one down the road?  Could well be, but probably not worth what a SGT will be worth.  I think the '08 SGT prices are too high.  I also think the Bullitt, like the last one in '01 is also overpriced. 

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/18/2008 1:16:39 AM   
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what's got me thinking about trading for a new Bullitt?
Three things-

1. there were none at any of the 3 Mustangs meets I went to this Saturday. Out of about 100 Mustangs, most being S197's. There were a few Shelby GT's and Gt500's.

2. I saw yesterday that most dealers here have 2 new Bullits and Galpin Ford has 17 green and 2 black ones! Top MSRP of 34,000 and goes down from there, with fewer options.
I think with 19 on the lot one could probably get a deal... we'll see soon!

3. Getting tired of the auto's inability to do decent downshifts. I've been shifting myself on my new motorcycle and want to do the same with the car!

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/19/2008 4:17:18 AM   
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I have driven both daily.The Bullitt offers some increase in handling and ride,The seats are AWESOME!The added performance of the gears,Exhaust,CAI,Tune are nice,But not over the top.The Shelby GT is a completely different car.Now in stock form it may not be as quick in the quarter,but what is a few tenths at best between friends!Now as far as handling,There is NO COMPARISON AT ALL!Trust me.The more I drive the Bullitt,The more I find it's limitations on the street.I NEVER found the limitations with the Shelby.It would corner like it was on rails.The ride might be a bit rough for most but I like a performance car to feel like one so I never was put off by the ride.The Bullitt will make a better daily driver for most,With enough performance to keep you happy.The Shelby GT was designed to be autocrossed and then driven back home,Extremely fun in the twisties.The Bullitt will probably handle well enough for most people and fly under the radar.The Shelby couldn't fly under the radar unless the cops were BLIND.Drive them both if at all possible before you decide,It's your money!

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/19/2008 8:03:20 PM   
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Thanks for all this great input. Specially from the ones that actually have driven both......
I love my car. I've had many many american muscle cars over the years, Next to the Vette , the Shelby Mustang, now that Ford has finally got the styling right...Is a sharp looking car
I want a sports car that not only turns heads but PERFORMS. Not just a straight line but in the curves.
I consider my current C6 a "gentlemans GT" In that its an automatic. The paddle shift is cool but i'm old school prefer a stick..
The Heads Up Display (not offered on a stang) is awesome but  an unnecessary frill.
My next sports car will be more spartan interiorwise. Just more stuff to break down. Who NEEDS heated seats???
What I'm getting at is "less is more"
Mmy car will put up skidpad & acceleration numbers comparable & exceeding that of a Shelby GT 500. So why change?  I miss  shifting
What I know & am learning about Vettes, Mustangs & the upcoming Camaro..My ideal car would be ..
a Corvette Z06..drop dead gorgeous & best stats. 
The price factor rules out a car costing $50k plus ( which would aso include the GT500)

After further review & careful analyiss, the perfect Mustang FOR ME, would be a
Shelby GT / SC
Supercharger
stripe delete
rear spoiler add
Hertz style hood ( i know, I know non functional but  cool looking. I like the rear side slots for brake cooling too)
Add an aftermarket 6 speed tranny
( last two vettes i had were 6 spd & turn around 1300 rpm at 80 mph.. the 5 spd mustang in shlby OR bullit cant offer that  kinda mileage)
the above mods  -6 spd & super charger are not cost effective to arrive at the same performance I already
have...

Therin lies my quandry..
I think the Bullitt is really neat but the 3:73 rearend will get me from gas station to gas station qucker.
The Shelby GT is approx $6,000 overpriced just becuase of the name...but what a name! resale value is paramount.
I'm used to having to avoid speed bumps or cross them diagonally on account of low clearance...Stiff ride is not an issue for me at all I consider it a price we pay for good handling.
I may just put mine on the market & look for a bargain ........leaning first toward the Shelby GT then the Bullitt...
Although a plain jane C6 Z51 manual tranny with a wide body kit might just be best comprimise..........
Again, I appreciate the input..
I just bought my daughter a 06 'stang v6 It feels pretty nice although the parking brake is in a strange location.



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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 10:41:58 AM   
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Just wanted to stop in and say hello here. I hope this first post isn't too offensive.

I had been shopping for Mustangs since last year. I was mainly looking at GT's at first, but I could never find one that really tripped my trigger. Here at the end of February, I went through a local Ford dealer's lot and saw what appeared to be a plain-jane V6 Mustang. I walked around the car, and lo and behold it was a Bullit! Man, you coulda knocked me over with a feather. I really liked the understated looks and the lack of a rear spoiler. I looked at the sticker, and there was a $1500 addendum on the car. I emailed the internet guys and they told me it was to cover the $1500 Mustang GT rebate going on. That pissed me off!!! I'm not paying full sticker plus tax for ANY car.

On a Saturday, I went to another dealership where I knew one of the salesmen. He told me that Ford just issued a fatter rebate on the Shelby's. After diddling around for about 45 minutes I was driving off in my new Shelby GT.

Here's the bottom line: No one is even going to give you a second look in a Bullit. I get nothing but people staring at this car no matter where I go. The Shelby is where it's at. Like it or not. I got mine for $7000 off sticker. Now, if you could get a Bullit for like $5000 off sticker, that might be a cool deal, but it still looks no cooler than a V6 Mustang, and actually some of the V6 Stangs look cooler than the Bullit.

I do like both cars, but be truthful with yourself. The main reason we buy these cars is for pride of ownership and getting attention. The Shelby gets all the attention.

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 12:00:32 PM   
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Here's my experience real quick. I bought Lilly, my Shelby GT, back in November. When the Bullitts came out I went to test drive one to see what was up. Nicer than a stock GT, yes. I like the style. It looks great to me, mainly becasue I like the Bullitt moveie and I know what Bullitt means. Alot of people, most to be exact, don't really know what Bullitt is or what it means, so saying, "I have a Bullitt Mustang", really doesn't do alot.


It's a little more powerful than my '06 Gt was, the Bullitt that is. Felt about the same power as Lilly was when she was stock. Now the handling is a different story. The Bullitt handles a little better than a stock GT, but the Shelby with the handling package would defintely easily outdo the Bullitt in handling.

Plus the Shelby really stands out in looks:

Lilly and I:






I'm sorry, and mean no offense to the Bullitt owners and people that really like the new Bullitt, but the copy and pasting from a few posts ago about how much the Bullitt is better than the Shelby GT is an opinion blown way out of proportion. I mean really, look at Lilly, go to my gallery, the Bullitt will never turn heads like Lilly!



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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 12:57:20 PM   
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IT'S PRETTY SAD WHEN YOU BUY A CAR JUST TO BE NOTICED!!

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 1:19:39 PM   
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IT'S PRETTY SAD WHEN YOU BUY A CAR JUST TO BE NOTICED!!


Isn't that why you buy any mustang?

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 3:11:41 PM   
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Exactly right! Let's just get to the core of why we do what we do, and move on with our lives.

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/22/2008 7:40:24 PM   
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Nope, NOT EVEN close!  I buy my Mustangs to drive, period.  I absolutely DO NOT need to draw attention to that, hence the stripe-delete GT500 and the Bullitt.

I buy my Mustangs because there isn’t a lot of choice for performance V-8 manual transmission rear wheel drive Ford cars.  That I happen to like the looks of the Mustangs gorgeous body is a bonus for me.  It most certainly does not have anything to do with impressing others.

I don’t want noisy exhaust simply for the sake of extra noise, or because of the attention it draws, and I don’t want flashy all for show stripes or scoops.  I certainly have no need to look like an escaped NASCAR while I am driving down the public roads.

I repeat, I DON’T WANT OR NEED ANY ATTENTION WHILE I’M DRIVING!  Stealth rates way higher than Bling in my book.  Aside for slightly better handling that can be had on the Bullitt for $1,400 or less, still $6,000 under the cost of the SGT, it does nothing better than the Bullitt other than attract the cops.

If you like all the stripes and nonfunctional scoops, that is good for you, go for it, but that doesn’t make your car look better to everyone.

Some of us actually do buy our cars simply to drive.



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IT'S PRETTY SAD WHEN YOU BUY A CAR JUST TO BE NOTICED!!


Isn't that why you buy any mustang?

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RE: Bullit verses Shelby GT comparison - 3/23/2008 5:17:25 AM   
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They are all great cars so there is no need for these arguments

If you can't make up your mind, get one of each

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