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400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old?


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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/16/2007 11:56:06 PM   
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you only have had your car for 6 months and have bought and had installed all those mods?? 


lol i have mods for my next car and i dont even have it yet   but shhhh i got a good deal.


spill it...

and if you have to ask if 400hp is to much than it is.



oh no no, you will see within the month.    most probably already know.


btw, so what if he doesn't have any pics?  I have never posted pics of my car here i dont think, but 10+ people from the forums saw my car this summer...until then, nobody had ever seen my  car.  means nothing.


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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 2:36:10 AM   
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        You are right that IQ has nothing to do with driving. As time passes it leads to experience and its in all psyche books that teens think differently than adults (use ID- I believe) and have less experience in driving in general. Many teens make wrong decisions because they do use a different part of there brain when younger and as we get older (different for all) and mature we start using common sense (most of us anyway) and realize we have to think of what our actions in our cars might do to ourselves and others around us and what we lose in the process of trying the stupid things that many teens do.
       I cant speak for you but I have had stangs since I was 16 and started driving and to be honest made some bad (stupid) decisions even though I bought the car with my hard earned cash ($5000 - 87 LX 5.0L) but always fell on to my parents when I needed cash and other mods for the car. I am 33 yrs old now and with the house 2 cars (one being my $44,000 stang) and other bills I think twice before acting on anything. Point of the long rant is stick to less than 300 RWHP and be careful and think before you act. When you truly become an adult you will understand. I get the feeling that your parents say this often " What were you thinking when you did this" (maybe putting it nicely ) when you did something wrong and/or stupid that hurt yourself or others around you. 
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+1. I knew an 18yr old kid in high school with a 230HP modded Maxima and a 130IQ. Crashed it twice in 1 year. Once from racing and another just in regular driving. Both accidents his fault. IQ has nothing to do with it. Driving has to do with experience, reflexes, eyesight, and awareness of your surroundings. I've already avoided a couple accidents by watching people w/o turn signals not look over their shoulder when changing lanes and almost hit me. Thank God I am a very safe driver and always aware of the cars and drivers around me.


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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 6:27:43 AM   
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Not like it hasn't been said before, it all depends on the person. There's some kids in my school that should be driving a moped because they dont think, others, mainly girls who i dont think should have their license, i've almost been hit in my schools parking lot 4 times. But if your responsible enough and think you wont want to drive 100mph everywhere i think that 400hp is alright, i'm sure you'd be happy with something below that but if you want 400, go for it.  I know that by the time i'm 20 i'll have somewhere around 350hp, if my wallet allows me to do so

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 7:31:37 AM   
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actually steelstang heads and cams (done right with specs to an NA car) should produce around 50rwhp. search for a thread on heads and cams dyno numbers, they were done by a mamber of this forum, and with his heads/cams done specified for his blower, he saw 40 rwhp i believe. and that was w/ using the stock airbox. so i wouldnt really say anywhere from 50-70 rwhp gain isnt worth it.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 7:33:58 AM   
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If you have respect for your car and know how crazy the power is behind it, I'm sure you can do fine w/ any hp. Just remember the respect issue...if you don't respect your car, you'll see it as a heaping pile of wreckage.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 7:38:35 AM   
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Well I realize that but if he really does have all those mods and has only had the car for 6 months, they all must have been on the car when he bought it.  Anyone else think that it is kinda ironic that all his mods are all the mods that are the most talked about on this forum?  And I have never seen him post a pic of his car either? 


wickerbill, ive been sayin that for a long time, but no one has ever agreed with me. i really dont see the point of lying about whats on your car, who gives a  s h i t  if you say you have these things on an effing internet forum. for a long time he had it say he had a C&L, and then it said he had a supercharger and then it said he had a turbo, and then he said he had these things "coming soon". personally i think its retarded to say you have something you dont. its childish. and MEANS NOTHING! ya know?

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 7:40:30 AM   
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Lol +1....My current mods= Louvers on my '07 and some minor stuff on the '71. But here, to partake in the game: Coming soon: 84378247893 hp supercharger!

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:12:36 AM   
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Well I realize that but if he really does have all those mods and has only had the car for 6 months, they all must have been on the car when he bought it.  Anyone else think that it is kinda ironic that all his mods are all the mods that are the most talked about on this forum?  And I have never seen him post a pic of his car either? 


wickerbill, ive been sayin that for a long time, but no one has ever agreed with me. i really dont see the point of lying about whats on your car, who gives a  s h i t  if you say you have these things on an effing internet forum. for a long time he had it say he had a C&L, and then it said he had a supercharger and then it said he had a turbo, and then he said he had these things "coming soon". personally i think its retarded to say you have something you dont. its childish. and MEANS NOTHING! ya know?

If you really care so much, I'll see if I can take some pics with my camera phone and post them. If I can't get to it, get nonstopred to drive 15minutes to see my car. I'll try hard getting the pics up in the next week for you since everyone cares. And Wickerbill, I put all the mods on the car I have right now except for the airraid cai.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:14:00 AM   
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actually steelstang heads and cams (done right with specs to an NA car) should produce around 50rwhp. search for a thread on heads and cams dyno numbers, they were done by a mamber of this forum, and with his heads/cams done specified for his blower, he saw 40 rwhp i believe. and that was w/ using the stock airbox. so i wouldnt really say anywhere from 50-70 rwhp gain isnt worth it.

It's really that high w/SSM heads and cam? Do you know what it does to my cars drivability? I hear a cam moves your powerband up higher nullifying street fun/use.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:17:59 AM   
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i dont know for sure, because i havent had the work done myself. but cams can be ground so it is alright for DD use, or you can have them ground wayy crazy and high rpm/ high HP fun, whatever you want.  the heads and cams ( as i understood it) were not done by SSM, but by a speed shop, he had a 3angle valve job and his cams custom done. idk what SSM will give you. they advertise 25 hp on just heads not, cams too. the power is available. you just have to have the incentive to get it done.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:23:16 AM   
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i dont know for sure, because i havent had the work done myself. but cams can be ground so it is alright for DD use, or you can have them ground wayy crazy and high rpm/ high HP fun, whatever you want.  the heads and cams ( as i understood it) were not done by SSM, but by a speed shop, he had a 3angle valve job and his cams custom done. idk what SSM will give you. they advertise 25 hp on just heads not, cams too. the power is available. you just have to have the incentive to get it done.

Yeah, I'm looking into it now, will have the money after x-mas for at least heads , may have to wait a little longer if I want cams. I'm a little new to P&P stuff, so what's a 3 angle valve job do? And, I think for cams, there is a place on the net where you can get cams done to your specs, so that's an option(It'd probably be like trading hp for torque and vice versa depending on the powerband). Thanks for the help!

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:24:38 AM   
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Gash has the SSM heads, and he did not show that kind of gains.  Ranebowcyxx is taking off his procharger, so he can test the PH heads and centri cams NA.  Not sure how his centri cams will react to the car NA, but he is gunning for 12's NA.  

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:26:14 AM   
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i'd send that ? to wickerbill. im not a mechanic, and i get the basic idea of what a 3 angle valve job is, but i cant explain it very well. he posted a thing about it on another post and it explained everything. but if you want to know the exact technicalities of everything. i'd go to him.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:28:42 AM   
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Its so you can run stronger valve springs, so you eliminate/reduce valve float.   It also lets you spin the motor to a higher rpm safely.   You also need them if you go with cams so the spring is strong enough to reach the lobe on the regrind.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 8:45:22 AM   
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depends on the driver.  I have had 450+hp cars since i was 16.  But I have raced since i was 12.

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 9:14:36 AM   
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****! How many drivers can tree John Force?
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+1 on the maturity level. physically a 20 yearold has the potential to be a better drive then a 40 yearold, quicker reflexes, and vision and what not but experience does help. i say 400 is fine


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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 9:26:45 AM   
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Quite a few the thing is they may tree him but they wont beat his bankroll lol  More times than not more money = faster

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****! How many drivers can tree John Force?
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+1 on the maturity level. physically a 20 yearold has the potential to be a better drive then a 40 yearold, quicker reflexes, and vision and what not but experience does help. i say 400 is fine



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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/17/2007 11:33:03 AM   
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****! How many drivers can tree John Force?
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+1 on the maturity level. physically a 20 yearold has the potential to be a better drive then a 40 yearold, quicker reflexes, and vision and what not but experience does help. i say 400 is fine



there are quite a few people that can turn a perfect R/T. 


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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/18/2007 10:26:10 AM   
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i'm gonna definitely say yes....and i drive a 05 v6 and a 485rwhp cobra lol

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RE: 400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old? - 11/18/2007 12:47:44 PM   
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"400HP too much power for a 19/20yr old?"
 
Without reading any of the responses in this thread, YES. It is way too much power.

I'm not much older... I'm 22, and a girl, but I can tell you that two-three years ago I was not the driver that I am today. It's not that I've taken driving classes to improve my driving, nor is it that I was a bad driver who f'ed up a few cars, but with age and experience you become better at driving. I didn't have my first car until I was 18, and that was a '99 Mazda 626 that got handed to my younger sister and will be handed to my even younger brother soon. That's the kind of car to learn on. I then graduated to an '03 Toyota Tacoma crew cab pickup. It had considerably more power, and of course, handled much differently. It had no traction control whatsoever and in the rain I did some pretty scary 180 degree sliding at times. Then I got my first brand new car, the '06 Mustang. I've never gotten a ticket or had an accident. I think for a kid that age, a stock Mustang V6 would be the place to start. That way you'll get accustomed to rear-wheel drive and a considerably powerful car. Mod that after you get to know it, and then upgrade to the GT after a few years and then go for the 400hp some time after that.

Cheers.

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