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It's good to know that our cars can hang with high mileage. Right now my Mustang has 2500 miles. It's not my daily driver, only get to drive it when I'm not working. If it's raining, the car stays parked.
My commute to work consist of going down a flight of stairs at my house.
Thats so funny me too! I live in a apartment beside and above my shop. Just wake up, make some coffee, then go down some stairs and look at my car before I start work...lol
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That's cool you made it past 100k. Some of us haven't been so lucky to not have tons of problems. My car has been in the shop more times than you can imagine. Luckily for me, it hasn't reached 36k but it's at 30,700 miles right now. I'm really scared for after the 36k. I didn't get an extended warranty and if I got one now, it would cost $4200. I could probably find it cheaper, but not that much.
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That's cool you made it past 100k. Some of us haven't been so lucky to not have tons of problems. My car has been in the shop more times than you can imagine. Luckily for me, it hasn't reached 36k but it's at 30,700 miles right now. I'm really scared for after the 36k. I didn't get an extended warranty and if I got one now, it would cost $4200. I could probably find it cheaper, but not that much.
Did you buy the car new? Did you take it in for routine service? I'm just trying to figure out why you have been having so many problems. What year is your car? Is it your daily driver? Are you rough on it?
feb of 05 got mine for the same reason then got sick with Modalitice. i spend about 2 to 2.5 hours a day bepending on what studio we are shooting at. luckily for me tha last 6 months i was in montreal and had a rent a car! i only have 32k on her but she is still running strong! i look forward to the 100 k mark!
Did you buy the car new? Did you take it in for routine service? I'm just trying to figure out why you have been having so many problems. What year is your car? Is it your daily driver? Are you rough on it?
It's an 06. Yes it's my daily driver and no I'm not rough on it. You're a very active poster on this forum so I'm curious as to why it's a shock that my car has problems with it. Nearly everyone on this forum has had tons of problems with their stangs from electrical problems, to water leaking, fuel pumps, clutches, brakes, shaker 500. The s197s are problematic. Most of us have been fortunate to have these things replaced under warranty. Some have been very fortunate and haven't had many problems at all though that seems to be the minority. I don't know where Ford screwed up in the engineering but how can they go from an as reliable as a honda civic sn95 new edge to as reliable as a ford pinto s197?
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Hi, well 110,000 miles is pretty impressive and it's nice to know our pony's 'for the most part' are going to stay glued together for the long haul. I have total confidence in mine making it's new owner very happy when I finally trade her in or maybe give it to one of my grandchildren for x-mas one year. Don't get me wrong here but I wonder,,,,what else goes bad around you? What other property of yours, or others, goes haywire when you are around? You see, lots of folks who know the inner workings of their car don't have any trouble at all because they have a good understanding of how things work and don't have a lot of negative energy in their space and or are not being kicked around by someone who makes them feel like crap all the time. Those who do, tend to have things go wrong around them including and perhaps more specifically their cars. They can buy the same model that has one awards for being one of the best and most stable vehicles on the road and a few days later have the wheels and doors fall off of their car! It's amazing but it's true. Ever take your car into the shop to have a mechanic look it over to find out why the engine is crapping out on you only to have the mechanic tell you "I can't find anything wrong with it and it won't act up for me so I can find the problem"? I've had this happen to me during my career as a pro' mechanic. Owner takes car home, it craps out on him. He brings it in, I keep it for a few days, test drive it etc., nothing goes wrong. That's because a good mechanic knows how the car works from the ground up and that's why that little ghost won't reveal itself! It's under control. Anyway, maybe you got a car that wasn't 100% when you purchased it and / or the odds are stacked against you for some reason or another. What can you possibly do about it? One thing is, learn everything you can about how a car works. How your car works to full conceptual understanding so you can perform repairs on it yourself. You'll be amazed how much your car straightens up and acts right. Yeah, this doesn't always work but the other side of it is, if someone or some situation in life is making you feel awkward, self doubting, handle them or disconnect and you will not only feel better but things around you will start to go right too! Try it. You'll be amazed! Best of luck! Wolfey2k
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Hi, well 110,000 miles is pretty impressive and it's nice to know our pony's 'for the most part' are going to stay glued together for the long haul. I have total confidence in mine making it's new owner very happy when I finally trade her in or maybe give it to one of my grandchildren for x-mas one year. Don't get me wrong here but I wonder,,,,what else goes bad around you? What other property of yours, or others, goes haywire when you are around? You see, lots of folks who know the inner workings of their car don't have any trouble at all because they have a good understanding of how things work and don't have a lot of negative energy in their space and or are not being kicked around by someone who makes them feel like crap all the time. Those who do, tend to have things go wrong around them including and perhaps more specifically their cars. They can buy the same model that has one awards for being one of the best and most stable vehicles on the road and a few days later have the wheels and doors fall off of their car! It's amazing but it's true. Ever take your car into the shop to have a mechanic look it over to find out why the engine is crapping out on you only to have the mechanic tell you "I can't find anything wrong with it and it won't act up for me so I can find the problem"? I've had this happen to me during my career as a pro' mechanic. Owner takes car home, it craps out on him. He brings it in, I keep it for a few days, test drive it etc., nothing goes wrong. That's because a good mechanic knows how the car works from the ground up and that's why that little ghost won't reveal itself! It's under control. Anyway, maybe you got a car that wasn't 100% when you purchased it and / or the odds are stacked against you for some reason or another. What can you possibly do about it? One thing is, learn everything you can about how a car works. How your car works to full conceptual understanding so you can perform repairs on it yourself. You'll be amazed how much your car straightens up and acts right. Yeah, this doesn't always work but the other side of it is, if someone or some situation in life is making you feel awkward, self doubting, handle them or disconnect and you will not only feel better but things around you will start to go right too! Try it. You'll be amazed! Best of luck! Wolfey2k
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Did you buy the car new? Did you take it in for routine service? I'm just trying to figure out why you have been having so many problems. What year is your car? Is it your daily driver? Are you rough on it?
It's an 06. Yes it's my daily driver and no I'm not rough on it. You're a very active poster on this forum so I'm curious as to why it's a shock that my car has problems with it. Nearly everyone on this forum has had tons of problems with their stangs from electrical problems, to water leaking, fuel pumps, clutches, brakes, shaker 500. The s197s are problematic. Most of us have been fortunate to have these things replaced under warranty. Some have been very fortunate and haven't had many problems at all though that seems to be the minority. I don't know where Ford screwed up in the engineering but how can they go from an as reliable as a honda civic sn95 new edge to as reliable as a ford pinto s197?
Hey now, I had 1972 Pinto (my first car) and never had a problem with it. In fact, I got more for the car when I sold it 15 years later than what was initially paid. Yes, I am shocked at how much trouble you are having with your Mustang. I asked all those questions because I know from experience, that if you do not keep a car well maintained or if you are reckless with it, it will start giving you problems. My car doesn't have that many miles on it, just 2600 miles and so far, I haven't had any issues. I wanted to know so I can avoid future problems down the road.
Hi, well 110,000 miles is pretty impressive and it's nice to know our pony's 'for the most part' are going to stay glued together for the long haul. I have total confidence in mine making it's new owner very happy when I finally trade her in or maybe give it to one of my grandchildren for x-mas one year. Don't get me wrong here but I wonder,,,,what else goes bad around you? What other property of yours, or others, goes haywire when you are around? You see, lots of folks who know the inner workings of their car don't have any trouble at all because they have a good understanding of how things work and don't have a lot of negative energy in their space and or are not being kicked around by someone who makes them feel like crap all the time. Those who do, tend to have things go wrong around them including and perhaps more specifically their cars. They can buy the same model that has one awards for being one of the best and most stable vehicles on the road and a few days later have the wheels and doors fall off of their car! It's amazing but it's true. Ever take your car into the shop to have a mechanic look it over to find out why the engine is crapping out on you only to have the mechanic tell you "I can't find anything wrong with it and it won't act up for me so I can find the problem"? I've had this happen to me during my career as a pro' mechanic. Owner takes car home, it craps out on him. He brings it in, I keep it for a few days, test drive it etc., nothing goes wrong. That's because a good mechanic knows how the car works from the ground up and that's why that little ghost won't reveal itself! It's under control. Anyway, maybe you got a car that wasn't 100% when you purchased it and / or the odds are stacked against you for some reason or another. What can you possibly do about it? One thing is, learn everything you can about how a car works. How your car works to full conceptual understanding so you can perform repairs on it yourself. You'll be amazed how much your car straightens up and acts right. Yeah, this doesn't always work but the other side of it is, if someone or some situation in life is making you feel awkward, self doubting, handle them or disconnect and you will not only feel better but things around you will start to go right too! Try it. You'll be amazed! Best of luck! Wolfey2k
Hey thanks for the psycho analysis, jerk,but maybe if you did your research you would see that there is truth behind what I'm saying. In fact, I can pull up five threads right now in which I posted in that were created because s197 owners like me were experiencing constant problems with their stangs and had to keep taking them back to the dealership for warranty work. These threads ran like 10 pages long too. Would you like me to do that for you or is it pointless because you're still going to act haughty and almighty anyways?
Hi, well 110,000 miles is pretty impressive and it's nice to know our pony's 'for the most part' are going to stay glued together for the long haul. I have total confidence in mine making it's new owner very happy when I finally trade her in or maybe give it to one of my grandchildren for x-mas one year. Don't get me wrong here but I wonder,,,,what else goes bad around you? What other property of yours, or others, goes haywire when you are around? You see, lots of folks who know the inner workings of their car don't have any trouble at all because they have a good understanding of how things work and don't have a lot of negative energy in their space and or are not being kicked around by someone who makes them feel like crap all the time. Those who do, tend to have things go wrong around them including and perhaps more specifically their cars. They can buy the same model that has one awards for being one of the best and most stable vehicles on the road and a few days later have the wheels and doors fall off of their car! It's amazing but it's true. Ever take your car into the shop to have a mechanic look it over to find out why the engine is crapping out on you only to have the mechanic tell you "I can't find anything wrong with it and it won't act up for me so I can find the problem"? I've had this happen to me during my career as a pro' mechanic. Owner takes car home, it craps out on him. He brings it in, I keep it for a few days, test drive it etc., nothing goes wrong. That's because a good mechanic knows how the car works from the ground up and that's why that little ghost won't reveal itself! It's under control. Anyway, maybe you got a car that wasn't 100% when you purchased it and / or the odds are stacked against you for some reason or another. What can you possibly do about it? One thing is, learn everything you can about how a car works. How your car works to full conceptual understanding so you can perform repairs on it yourself. You'll be amazed how much your car straightens up and acts right. Yeah, this doesn't always work but the other side of it is, if someone or some situation in life is making you feel awkward, self doubting, handle them or disconnect and you will not only feel better but things around you will start to go right too! Try it. You'll be amazed! Best of luck! Wolfey2k
Hey thanks for the psycho analysis, jerk,but maybe if you did your research you would see that there is truth behind what I'm saying. In fact, I can pull up five threads right now in which I posted in that were created because s197 owners like me were experiencing constant problems with their stangs and had to keep taking them back to the dealership for warranty work. These threads ran like 10 pages long too. Would you like me to do that for you or is it pointless because you're still going to act haughty and almighty anyways?
Okay, I'll play.
First of all, I did not attack you or anyone else. Please show me the same courtesy. I was offering another 'possible' reason this sort of thing happens to other people. Those with such chronic problems are generally in the minority where mass production goes. Sure, there are mistakes made. Parts manufactured incorrectly or out of spec' causing a mass problem for 'most' owners of x vehicle. To wit, I had the same thunking noise in my front suspension thousands of others had due to an incorrect type of material being used in the upper strut mounts that tended to amplify mechanical noises rather than suppress them. But there are those, perhaps like yourself, who are prone to have problems with machinery and in life where others are not. Are there vehicles that are produced enmass that are generally lemons due to poor engineering and manufacturing? Sure! Further, my advice is not based on psychology or psych' anything. Psychology is BS and so are the psychs as a whole. Steer clear from them at all costs,,,just as a side note. Anyway, I meant no harm and certainly I am not trying to seem high and mighty here. I am offering you and others another possibility where cause and effect goes. I didn't even get into anything deep or mysterious. All I am saying is, if you are not hatted up on the operation of your vehicle, perhaps becoming so will help. I am not trying to make any blanket statements or generalities. I am being very specific here. People who know how their mechinery etc. operates and why, tend to have less problems with them. They work better, more dependably and so on. It's and axiomatic truth in life. That's all I was trying to say. Sorry if you were offended. I mean no harm and certainly I mean to offer a possible solution with not just ones automotive problems but one's life in general. Peace brother! Wolfey2k
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WOW I can't believe I'm reading this, you honestly think that the S197 is a bad built car??? Um look at other models and you'll see this is a pretty decent car, especially for a new platform. I've had 3 problems and they were all TSB, and fixed no problem....not to bad! So to say PintoS197 or worse I can't agree. And with close to 1/2 a million S197's on the road I think you'll have a hard time getting anyone to believe that MOST people have problems with them. The 5 or so thread you can pull up is a microcosm(sp) of the Mustang society and probably the more intellictual when it come to dealing with cars. I don't see clutches or brakes at all, maybe its because your mission is to find the wrong with the car instead of the good and in that case sell it and DO everyone a favor, you and us....no one needs to hear more negative in this world, there is enough of it already.
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Did you buy the car new? Did you take it in for routine service? I'm just trying to figure out why you have been having so many problems. What year is your car? Is it your daily driver? Are you rough on it?
It's an 06. Yes it's my daily driver and no I'm not rough on it. You're a very active poster on this forum so I'm curious as to why it's a shock that my car has problems with it. Nearly everyone on this forum has had tons of problems with their stangs from electrical problems, to water leaking, fuel pumps, clutches, brakes, shaker 500. The s197s are problematic. Most of us have been fortunate to have these things replaced under warranty. Some have been very fortunate and haven't had many problems at all though that seems to be the minority. I don't know where Ford screwed up in the engineering but how can they go from an as reliable as a honda civic sn95 new edge to as reliable as a ford pinto s197?
I think Ford makes good cars and I think the 2008 and 2009 mustangs will have less TSB problems out of the factory. The 2005 was the first model year and those are likely to have problems but when you have a 2007 having the same water leaking problems as the car built two years ago, someone is not doing their jobs (and yes I had the water leak on the passenger side problem in my 06. The dealer fought me for weeks on it, somehow trying to squabble out of fixing it under warranty).
I think Ford's most reliable car ever built was the mustang actually. The 94-04 mustangs were superb.. I owned a 1997 and a 2002 and man those were the most reliable cars I've ever driven in my life. My 97 went to 150k just needing an altenator throughout that entire time and was still running strong when I sold her. My 2002 went to 64k with ZERO problems whatsoever.
Then I got my 2006 and I've had more problems with it than all of my previous owned cars combined. For some reason, consumer reports hates the s197 and gives it terrible reliability ratings. Maybe they are biased? or maybe they are truthful. I'm very gentle on my car and I have the oil changed with synthetic mobil one every 5000 miles. I've already had it in for warranty work on the following problems: Rear brakes, water leaking on the passenger side, fuel pump, clutch master cylinder, shaker 500 twice and the door sensor. Maybe I got a lemon but come to find out, most everybody on this forum has had the exact same problems with their cars. Alot of these are TSBs but that's still no excuse for the time and energy required to get in into the dealership and haggling with the service departments who don't want to fix it.
But with all the problems I still LOVE my car. I think the s197 is the best looking car on the road by far. Sometimes I like to start it, and turn on the lights so I can just look at it.
As far as that article goes, I think Ford makes good quality cars overall. The Focus, Fusion, Explorer and F150 all go to 150k easy.