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i think we as a whole have a differnt ego than most racers. (you can dissagree) but muscle heads(muscle car) think differnt. like raw hp and when we put super chargers and nitrous no one can keep up. I think its great with all those mods people brag that they can keep up with a STOCK mustang. Keep on strocking my altered ego man its great. but your gtp cant and never will have the potential a v8 light weight mustang can. just plain and simple. you have to many factors working against you. (fwd, displacement, trany, etc.) its a cool car for what it is. you have more on you plate from the start for cheap mods but reach the top to quick and then that wall you cant go over. sorry but i think in my OPINION they suck. its not a race car and never will be.
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Actually awwimer, your 100th post is full of so much ignorance I find it difficult to take you seriously. First of all, I never came on this board with an ego (your size) and started bragging how insanely fast my car was. I never claimed it was a "race car". I know GTP's are technically a family car, (yet with a good balance of luxury and balls.)
"I think its great with all those mods people brag that they can keep up with a STOCK mustang."
What mods? a $70 pulley and intake? LOL. That's all it takes.
"but your gtp cant and never will have the potential a v8 light weight mustang can."
Having a 4.6 liter V-8 obviously does have more potential than a 3.8 V-6, no argument there, it's got more displacement, and if blown, it's fast as hell. (SVT Cobra comes to mind...mmm) Light weight you say? You think Mustang GT's are lightweight? Wow.
"but reach the top to quick and then that wall you cant go over."
All cars have limitations.....even yours! You can make any car go fast with enough money, it's just cheaper to do that on a supercharged engine than a N/A car like your Mustang. Like I said, a few simple bolt on's and my V-6 "family car" can beat a respectable V-8 stock stang.
People, I have nothing against Mustangs, they are nice looking, fast cars that sound great. (I love that growl) I might have even bought one but to be honest I liked the sleek flowing body style of the Grand Prix better and decided I wanted a bit more luxury and cheaper insurance so I can save more money for mods!
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Just to show that it can be done (in case some of you don't believe, lol) here is a video of a turbo GTP running 10.9. Yes, you can make any car fast yadda yadda yadda, but this is quite an accomplishment for a GP.
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what is wrong with that retarded ass video that i have a bunch of download boxes sitting there and the file wont open?
and FYI a turbo grand prix is far from any of the things that you say makes your car so good. it may be cheaper to go fast in stock trim, but i guarantee theres easier ways to make a car go 10's period.
I can't really make fun of 3.8's. My brother runs around in a Grand National that will suck the paint off my car anywhere anyt time. I was so pissed when he first got that car. He went out bought some rims/tires, an airbag for the passenger side rear, a "test tube" for the cat, and a chip to go 7.70's in the 1/8th. Spent a total of $1200.
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but you know what i mean. why are you suddenly putting me on your hitlist or something, did i do anything to you? and supercharged puts more stress on the engine than turbo anyway. it has not only the stress of the hp it dynos, but the stress of pulling the charger too.
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Ok now that that's outta the way, I honestly think a GTP is pretty cool and has alot of potential for the cheap too! But that potential is limited by being heavy, fwd, and a small displacement engine (compared to a Mustang that is). While their is no doubt it is a quick car, I dont think any GTP is gonna scare me anywhere or anytime (not to say their arent faster GTP's that can spank me, but the odds of that are very very slim).
Listen, even someone with a Honda Civic can do enough work to it to smoke both of us, but I think its fair to say that you wouldnt expect a Civic to pull on you right? Well thats kinda how I feel when I look at a GTP.
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Damn, leave him alone.
You can tell he did not come here to start sh!t. He likes his car and has every right to. No matter what everyone posts the 3800 II is a good engine with potential. 99 is not trash talking stangs, maybe we can give him the same respect.
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I was giving him respect, I was standing up for him saying I liked the GTP's, but I was also defending the Mustangers who werent intimidated by his car. I think its great having non-mustang owners hanging out here, especially ones like 99 who don't have something up their ass and actually know a little about what their talking about.
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[QUOTE=mdvaldosta] I was giving him respect, I was standing up for him saying I liked the GTP's, but I was also defending the Mustangers who werent intimidated by his car. I think its great having non-mustang owners hanging out here, especially ones like 99 who don't have something up their ass and actually know a little about what their talking about.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't refering to you Md, I know you be a cool muthaf**ka.
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i wouldnt call what i did jumping on people, ive just heard that they arent the greatest engine in the world, charged or not, and you guys are treating me like an arab on a plane for disagreeing.
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I can't cast my vote till I race one for myself. I think they are a fine car, a V6 w/ 240hp and 280lb/ft is very respectable in my books, too bad they're not rear drive.
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i would like to add that im not trying to flame really either. any car that is fast is cool in my book.(but will give more respect to muscle cars) but what do you expect. its a freakin Mustang forum. what does he want us to do tell him how to tune it to go faster or just tell him oh cool next time i see one ill race it to show i dont underestimate them. what, this is a site for us by us (fubu) sorry im just getting irratated by other people coming on this site to tell us about there cars. we all know they are there, if we cared about them we would go to there site and read about them. there are generic race sites to talk about other cars. so whatever, go about it.
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I'm a white hetero male and I'm not amused by racial slurs, sexuality slams, or other prejudiced remarks.
Just like you all may not like being compared to Kid Rock's character on Joe Dirt (redneck, mullet lovers, hill billies, whatever), minority groups don't really appreciate your comments. Not all import drivers are Asian or ricers, not all domestic drivers are rednecks. The comments just aren't funny.
And no, Jug, I'm not singling you out for any reason other than you're making yourself out to be a big target. ;)
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Underestimated? - 
Light weight you say? You think Mustang GT's are lightweight? Wow. 
You can make any car go fast with enough money, it's just cheaper to do that on a supercharged engine than a N/A car like your Mustang. Like I said, a few simple bolt on's and my V-6 "family car" can beat a respectable V-8 stock stang. 
about it.
