My buddy has a green 4door GTP and I'm very used to him and his family pulling up in our drivway and piling out, perhaps that is the reasoning for my subliminal perception of the model. I will tell you that the 2door does make it look a lot more "serious". I like it, dude.... Drive it with pride.......
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My friend has a 1998 GTP 2-Door that has a light blue color on it and he got a intake and upgraded the pulley. His car whines like hell now, all you hear is the s/c.
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[QUOTE=95Stealth302]I dont consider them any threat at all, mostly because I only see older guys driving them, and they are never modded. Never considered them anything more than a supercharged family four door from Pontiac no less.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm not talking about coming across some moms and dads, lol.
Does this look like a family car? It's my car.
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In all seriouness, I see plenty of older moms and dads (mostly dads) driving around in GTP 2 doors. They are just bigger cars, which lends itself to be more apealing to the older crowd. More of a baby boomer car if you will. In comparison to a Mustang, the GTP takes the 40+ class by storm, but I dont want to discredit your ride, it looks nice, and high 13s if that is what it runs is pretty good for a big FWD.
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i hear that like all of the charged 3.8 gm's are pretty junky...and if not id pick a bonneville cause you can pick those bastards up for like 2500-3000
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Actually I see many 40+ people in Mustang GT's too. They are both basically the same size and weight. I really don't see what you are saying about "bigger cars".
"and high 13s if that is what it runs is pretty good for a big FWD."
I know, I can't slide around corners, but otherwise, why does this matter? Not trying to sound argumentative, I'm just wondering what you're saying here.
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[QUOTE=Jugador]i hear that like all of the charged 3.8 gm's are pretty junky...and if not id pick a bonneville cause you can pick those bastards up for like 2500-3000[/QUOTE]
Junky huh?, I can't say that's accurate, especially from personal experience. The 3800 is considered a very reliable, very strong engine.
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how much do a gtp weigh? I dont think they are equal cars. Im sorry not talking crap some are fast but this dude in town always trys to rev on me and its pissing me off. I really want to race him bad. I know he is stock and just want to devistate him in front of his girl that thinks his car is fast. really though with those mods and front wheel drive I dont think you are in the 13,s. not with that hp and not that much torque.(and front wheel drive.)
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the tranny is junk in those things and dont hold up if you make any serious power. Correct me if im wrong but isnt the only upgrade to the tranny the one from the buick.
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LOL, Ok now I'm just seeing some niave comments, that's OK you'll learn someday I guess. The stang is about 200 lbs lighter but I have beat every stock Mustang GT I've raced. Put a nice stereo system in your car and you're close to my weight, lol. Don't get me wrong, they were good, close races, but for the small amount of money I've put into this car, I'm happy to say that stock GT's are no worry for me. For example: I changed to a 3.4" pulley for $70 dollars. That gave me an instant 25 extra hp. Give me an intercooler, 3" pulley, and headers and I'm in the 12's, it's that simple. About the tranny: I've talked to many GTP owners in the 11's and 12's and they will tell you the tranny is just fine, you want to talk about trannys going out? Lets talk about Eclipse GSX AWD's, LOL.
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As far as the 3800 SC being "not a very strong one" I'll have to strongly disagree with that. It is a time tested strong engine that has held up very well to forced induction; it has proven itself time and time agian. As far as output, I don't even think it's debatable that it's a powerfull engine, I mean come on, it's a six cylinder that can out-perform some V-8's, and with simple intake and a $70 pulley swap, it can out-perform a 4.6 liter stock Mustang GT. GTP99whine37924.2594328704
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[QUOTE=Jugador]i wouldnt call it a powerful one though. i mean you can run FI on a small engine all you want, but it just has less potential.[/QUOTE]
Thought I should go into more detail here. So you consider a 3.8 small? What do you consider 4 bangers and 3 liter v-6's then? LOL Hey man, I'm not trying to sound like a cock, I'm just saying....I feel like you guys are thinking I'm some ricer with a turbocharged civic, lol.
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If not for any other reason, GPs are considered midsize cars. Their base modle is the SE which is a larger 4 door. This is where my theory of a larger car comes from, but consequently the 2 door is much smaller, so your point is valid. However, in the interest of speed, torque, and horsepower, it has long since been proven that a rear wheel application is the best choice. Not that there cannot be fast FWD cars, and I applaud you for having one, but if FWD was better for racing than RWD, John Force would be driving a built up Malibu. I don't know all the dynamics of FWD, although my first car was a 2 door 96 red Cutlass, but I do know that there aren't many midsize FWDs out there that are running 13s.
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2 door GTP's are not that small. There pretty big for a 2 door car. I'm 6 foot 3 and I have riden in my friend's GTP backseat and its not cramped, I could sit back there on a long trip. There pretty damn roomy for a 2 door. But, I sat in my friends backseat of his 1994 Mustang Cobra and I was eating my knees.
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Yes, you get luxury and performance in one fast package. But hell, I'm not here to prove anything, there are both great AMERICAN cars, each with their own unique attributes.