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New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 12:09:22 PM   
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How do your motors take to bolt ons?  Are they pretty responsive or kinda crummy like the 2V 4.6?

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 12:19:28 PM   
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More like 2v GTs. They're still good but as good as the 4.0s

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 12:33:29 PM   
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They have 2vs too, so I can imagine its the same or maybe worse.

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 12:41:23 PM   
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I have seen a few sixxers around my area and I've always wondered how well they take to bolt on's.

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 1:36:12 PM   
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More like 2v GTs. They're still good but as good as the 4.0s


+1, like the 2v GT it begs for mods outside of basic bolt-ons for strong power and loves to be boosted.  Unlike the 4.0 which is a bit more potent for n/a bolt-ons.


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 1:46:59 PM   
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It's a bit worse than the 2v 4.6. So all the sixer owners who say "I'd never own a ****ty 2v", the V6 is just as bad.


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 2:18:54 PM   
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the difference is we take forced induction better

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 2:37:56 PM   
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the difference is we take forced induction better


Not really...


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 4:09:58 PM   
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the difference is we take forced induction better


Not really...



Proof?


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 4:25:17 PM   
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By forced induction he means a pounding from big bubba.

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 4:58:38 PM   
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pretty sure theres a 800hp sixxer running a normal 3.8 block. dont the 4.6's split at 450?

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 6:36:38 PM   
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Dont underestimate people. 3.8 is  a strong block.

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 6:52:00 PM   
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But the rods and pistons are weaker than the 4.6. How come you can safely go to about 300ish rwhp on a V6 at around 11 psi of boost and that being considered the "safe" level, when you can go to about 400 rwhp on a 2v 4.6 and be in the considered "safe" level. Sure, there's some 3.8's that are well into the 400's, but those people are on borrowed time. I'm not saying the 3.8 is a weak motor. The block and crank are ****in' amazing. But those are useless if you snap or bend your rods or shoot a piston through your heads.

Not bashing the 3.8, just trying to set in some sort of reality to those of you who think the 3.8 is bulletproof to the 4.6.

Oh, and about the 3.8 taking to boost better than the 4.6, it's about the same. A boosted 3.8 at around 9 psi will bring it to about 250ish rwhp give or take. From 160 average rwhp stock, that's about 90 hp. A 4.6 2v will go from about 230 rwhp stock to about 340-350 rwhp on average with 9 psi. That's 120 rwhp gain. A lot can do with the tune, so let's just call it equal. But the 3.8 doesn't like boost more than the 4.6.


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 7:56:12 PM   
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But the rods and pistons are weaker than the 4.6. How come you can safely go to about 300ish rwhp on a V6 at around 11 psi of boost and that being considered the "safe" level, when you can go to about 400 rwhp on a 2v 4.6 and be in the considered "safe" level. Sure, there's some 3.8's that are well into the 400's, but those people are on borrowed time. I'm not saying the 3.8 is a weak motor. The block and crank are ****in' amazing. But those are useless if you snap or bend your rods or shoot a piston through your heads.

Not bashing the 3.8, just trying to set in some sort of reality to those of you who think the 3.8 is bulletproof to the 4.6.

Oh, and about the 3.8 taking to boost better than the 4.6, it's about the same. A boosted 3.8 at around 9 psi will bring it to about 250ish rwhp give or take. From 160 average rwhp stock, that's about 90 hp. A 4.6 2v will go from about 230 rwhp stock to about 340-350 rwhp on average with 9 psi. That's 120 rwhp gain. A lot can do with the tune, so let's just call it equal. But the 3.8 doesn't like boost more than the 4.6.



Like the qoute said "There is no replacement for displacement " but Im just saying 3.8 is hell of a block for the powr it can handle without being modified. Justin at VMP is runin TT on his 3.8 with stock internals. Car is runin 10s in a 1/4


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 8:08:39 PM   
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But the rods and pistons are weaker than the 4.6. How come you can safely go to about 300ish rwhp on a V6 at around 11 psi of boost and that being considered the "safe" level, when you can go to about 400 rwhp on a 2v 4.6 and be in the considered "safe" level. Sure, there's some 3.8's that are well into the 400's, but those people are on borrowed time. I'm not saying the 3.8 is a weak motor. The block and crank are ****in' amazing. But those are useless if you snap or bend your rods or shoot a piston through your heads.

Not bashing the 3.8, just trying to set in some sort of reality to those of you who think the 3.8 is bulletproof to the 4.6.

Oh, and about the 3.8 taking to boost better than the 4.6, it's about the same. A boosted 3.8 at around 9 psi will bring it to about 250ish rwhp give or take. From 160 average rwhp stock, that's about 90 hp. A 4.6 2v will go from about 230 rwhp stock to about 340-350 rwhp on average with 9 psi. That's 120 rwhp gain. A lot can do with the tune, so let's just call it equal. But the 3.8 doesn't like boost more than the 4.6.



Like the qoute said "There is no replacement for displacement " but Im just saying 3.8 is hell of a block for the powr it can handle without being modified. Justin at VMP is runin TT on his 3.8 with stock internals. Car is runin 10s in a 1/4



I know Justin is running that power. But that's one person. Take 9 other people with the same stuff done to their cars and see those 9 have blown motors after a few 1/4 passes.

I'm just saying that the 3.8 motor isn't stronger than the 4.6. The block is, but the block is useless without the internals.


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 8:17:41 PM   
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Whenever the debate between 3.8 and 4.6 comes in Justin is always brought into this.

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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 8:24:36 PM   
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Whenever the debate between 3.8 and 4.6 comes in Justin is always brought into this.


Justin and Matt Neuharth (sp?) are always the sixer fallbacks. It's kind of annoying with the "Well he has this," or "His car can do this".


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 8:31:20 PM   
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Whenever the debate between 3.8 and 4.6 comes in Justin is always brought into this.


Oh let me give you some more names then, Mikael,Jay and so forth just that they dont get much publictiy as Justin and Matt


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 8:38:20 PM   
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Whenever the debate between 3.8 and 4.6 comes in Justin is always brought into this.


Oh let me give you some more names then, Mikael,Jay and so forth just that they dont get much publictiy as Justin and Matt



So go forth...


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RE: New Edge Sixxer Question - 10/26/2007 9:05:11 PM   
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I know Justin is running that power. But that's one person. Take 9 other people with the same stuff done to their cars and see those 9 have blown motors after a few 1/4 passes.

I'm just saying that the 3.8 motor isn't stronger than the 4.6. The block is, but the block is useless without the internals.



And the interternals are useless without the block. Both of them have thier share of disadvanges, but they respond to bolt on's basically the same.

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