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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/10/2007 2:08:24 AM   
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Thaicobra, I must disagree again.  Tho there are some lite awd cars, this will not be one of them.  Nissan is already boasting how technologically advanced this car will be.  To the world that is a sales pitch, but all I hear is "it going to have lots of gadgets that require lots of wiring and weigh alot."  Things such as rear wheel steering devices, active yaw controlers, and traction control.  Short story, I'm not worried about one pulling up next to me.


I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like all those Bentleys...400 HP!...and it only weighs 5,000 lbs!

that may be the case. time will tell.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/11/2007 4:29:16 PM   
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Have alot of mixed opinions on this beast.  80 grand is alot for this car but then again it does something that you can do with a GT500, go through snow.  Dont get me wrong id rather build my fox to be faster then both but if I had all the money in the world id think aboot one.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/11/2007 6:36:23 PM   
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if i had all the money in the world i wouldnt look at the GT-R. Id fix up my 67 all nice nice and race ready, buy a SSC Ultimate Aero TT, and quench my jap thirst with a screamin AE86 Sprinter Trueno.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/12/2007 2:55:40 PM   
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Well when you are spending that kind of money for a car. Huh look at it well you got the GT500s coming out what are they gonna run around 50 grand ok well you got 30 grand more to put in you stang to compete with that rice burner. With 30 grand you could smoke him

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/13/2007 2:01:40 PM   
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I like that car a lot, until I learned about the price tag on one of those. 80k...
But just imagine the schmuck driving it... He'll think he is the fastest thing on earth because he is in a skyline...


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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/13/2007 2:16:59 PM   
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Well when you are spending that kind of money for a car. Huh look at it well you got the GT500s coming out what are they gonna run around 50 grand ok well you got 30 grand more to put in you stang to compete with that rice burner. With 30 grand you could smoke him



Sad to say but with another 1-2K the Sklyline would probably keep door to door with a highly modded GT500. Twin turbo anything has a flat TQ curve from a fairly low RPM close to redline. Unless the Stang grabs solid asphalt from the git-go (not likely with RWD and a lot of mods) you're going to spinning at the line while the Skyline runs away. 

I agree though, the Skyline would be great for a weekend driver (as in, if I had the money to blow) otherwise I'll stick to a stang or vette for dd

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/18/2007 8:23:14 PM   
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Funny to hear someone complain about a ford fan boy...this is a mustang forum afterall... Yeah the skyline may grab better in the snow but heck, i'd rather my (imaginary) GT500 be clean in the dustless and temperature controlled garage. Heck, when I get my 08 in the spring, I won't even want that to see the snow or rain. Though it will, ggggrrrr...., haven't won the lotto yet and can't quite afford a junker. 

Jap cars, bleh....they may look cool but imho they are kitty cars....nothing beats the sounds of raw V8 power and torque. Just the sound of a mustang idling gets me excited. Makes me want to race. You start a jap car and I usually want to laugh or call a doctor because it sounds sick. Most of the ones out hear sounds like angry weed whackers. Yeah they may get down the tracker faster, but it's just as awesome to sit there and watch the car smoke 'em...knowing that if only it hooked up it would have won the race. But hey everyone is entitled to what they want and like, me personally... I wouldn't be caught owning anything less then 8 cylinders or anything non-american other then German made.

Over 400 hp for the car eh? how much torque? that's the number that impresses me.
I thought i read somewhere that for 10k more this year you can get the shelby upgraded to a KR? Power rating was like 638hp when Shelby was interviewed. The way it read was like he laughed at that number, almost as if he was hiding the real potential....

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/19/2007 6:23:46 AM   
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I was in Barnes and Noble in the mall on Saturday night, saw Beowulf  , and a magazine had this on the cover. It was Motor trend or Road and Track or something like that. It said "Corvette Killler" on the front. I was compelled to read of course, and I kinda laughed.

It said the 0 - 60 was 3.8 and the 1/4 was 11.7

That's pretty fast for stock. Two problems though. The Z06 that's the same price as this car, has a 0 - 60 of 3.8 and a 1/4 of 11.7, by the same magazine. I thought it was funny they called it a "killer" when it was exactly the same. Also, the most important fact, was that beside the 0 - 60 and 1/4 times it had parenthesis which looked like this:

(mf est.)

That means "manufacturer estimate".

It blew my mind that this magazine was telling everyone that it blows away Corvettes based off of what Nissan "says" the car will do, and even though it matches their own Corvette numbers.

Yes, if correct, those numbers are fast, but about right for that price.





It still remians the same that you can spend $25,000 on a Mustang GT, go drop 6-7k on a good blower and tires, and make faster times. I mean, look at Brenspeed. they have stock autos running low 11's after only the blower and drag radial tires added. Come on Nissan, where's the bang for buck attribute? Not in the Z, and not in this car. 

- C

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/19/2007 9:59:32 AM   
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It is fairly ignorant to call this car "Evil".  It is a respectable car with a long history in Japan dating back to 1969.  But i guess no one can change your minds on a Mustang Forum.  This is what a nissan enthusiast says:  " Ive always liked the sound of a turbo. They always make my head turn but I also love the grunt of a powerful V8."  Respect.

These are the specs from Nissan of USA of the Japanese spec GT-R.

Specifications
Engine • VR-series twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6.
• 480 hp @ 6,800 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm.
• Dual overhead camshafts with variable intake-valve timing.
• Cast aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
• IHI twin turbochargers, one per cylinder bank.
• Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling.

Drivetrain
• ATTESA ET-S All-Wheel Drive (AWD) with independent rear-mounted transaxle integrating transmission, differential and AWD transfer case.
• Rigid, lightweight carbon-composite driveshaft between engine and transaxle.
• Electronic traction control plus 1.5-way mechanically locking rear differential.
• Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC-R) with three driver-selectable settings: Normal (for daily driving, controls brakes and engine output), R-Mode (for ultimate performance, utilizes AWD torque distribution for additional vehicle stability) and Off (driver does not want the help of the system).
• Hill Start Assist prevents rollback when starting on an incline. DisclaimerVDC-R cannot prevent accidents due to abrupt steering, carelessness, or dangerous driving techniques. Always drive safely.

Transmission
• 6-speed Dual Clutch Transmission with three driver-selectable modes: Normal (for maximum smoothness and efficiency), Snow (for gentler starting and shifting on slippery surfaces), and R mode (for maximum performance with fastest shifts).
• Fully automatic shifting or full sequential manual control via gearshift or steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters.
• Dual clutch design changes gears in less than 0.5 second (0.2 second in R mode).
• Downshift Rev Matching (DRM).
• Predictive pre-shift control (in R mode) based on throttle position, vehicle speed, braking and other information.

Wheels and Tires
• 20 x 9.5" (front) and 20 x 10.5" (rear) super-lightweight forged-aluminum wheels with Gunmetal Gray finish.
• Exclusively developed nitrogen-filled Bridgestone® RE070A high-capacity run-flat summer tires, 255/40R20 front and 285/35R20 rear.
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS).
• Optional exclusively developed nitrogen-filled Dunlop® run-flat all-season tires, 255/40R20 front and 285/35R20 rear (includes Bright Silver wheels).

Brakes
• Brembo® 4-wheel disc brakes with 4-wheel Antilock Braking System (ABS), Brake Assist, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution and Preview Braking.
• Two-piece floating-rotor 15-inch front and rear discs with diamond-pattern internal ventilation.
• 6-piston front/4-piston rear monoblock calipers.

Steering
• Rack-and-pinion steering with vehicle-speed-sensitive power assist.
• 2.6 steering-wheel turns lock-to-lock.

Suspension
• 4-wheel independent suspension with Bilstein® DampTronic system with three driver-selectable modes: Normal/Sport (for automatic electronic control of damping), Comfort (for maximum ride comfort), and R mode (engages maximum damping rate for high-performance cornering).
• Electronically controlled variable-rate shock absorbers. High-accuracy progressive-rate coil springs.
• Front double-wishbone/rear multi-link configuration with aluminum members and rigid aluminum subframes.
• Hollow front and rear stabilizer bars.

Body/Chassis
• Exclusive Premium Midship platform with jig-welded hybrid unibody.
• Aluminum hood, trunk and door skins. Die-cast aluminum door structures.
• Carbon-reinforced front crossmember/radiator support.

More info and pictures:
http://www.gtrnissan.com/index.html

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/19/2007 10:08:57 AM   
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I don't know. It's smaller and has AWD and is the same speed, stock, as a Corvette, stock. I was just expecting more I suppose. Don't get me wrong, powerful, fast, yes. Maybe if it looked better. That's just my opinion of course.

With all the hype, I was just expecting much, much, much more. It's being hyped as the car of cars, but really it's just another overpriced, but fast, vehicle. Oh well.

- C

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/19/2007 5:33:20 PM   
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How can you possibly expect it to be faster for the price?  It's faster around the Nurburgring than the C6 Z06, Porsche 997 GT3, Lamborghini Murciealago, and the Bugatti Veyron, and is nearly as fast as a Koenigsegg CCX, which has nearly 300hp more and weighs 1200 lbs less.  This is a hell of a deal for $80,000, and there's still the aftermarket available....

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/19/2007 5:37:11 PM   
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How can you possibly expect it to be faster for the price?  It's faster around the Nurburgring than the C6 Z06, Porsche 997 GT3, Lamborghini Murciealago, and the Bugatti Veyron, and is nearly as fast as a Koenigsegg CCX, which has nearly 300hp more and weighs 1200 lbs less.  This is a hell of a deal for $80,000, and there's still the aftermarket available....


I call bull****.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/20/2007 3:53:13 PM   
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i  think that its going to be an awesome car first off.. is the juice worth the squeeze?  if you consider how many that they are making, and the rarity let alone the following and legacy the skyline represents....if im rich, yes. if i am who i am, no. but i will gawk all day long and wish i had however much it will cost. hell ya. also, the market for these is obviously not a young one. this car is going to be the same as the saleen s7 and thae audi beast, so considering being "outside" the box, its a badass car.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/20/2007 9:52:41 PM   
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Well when you are spending that kind of money for a car. Huh look at it well you got the GT500s coming out what are they gonna run around 50 grand ok well you got 30 grand more to put in you stang to compete with that rice burner. With 30 grand you could smoke him



^ Its comments like this that makes this whole thread seems close minded.
Look at all the technology going into this Skyline. Take 30K and put it in the GT500 to match the technology in the Skyline. on the flip side take all the tech goodies out leave the TT v6 AWD w/ 2 seater then see where it would stand ,NTM where the price would fall to. Im jus sayin if there are gonna be comparisons like that take the whole picture into consideration not just from a 1/4mi stand point.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 11/21/2007 11:25:38 PM   
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Have alot of mixed opinions on this beast.  80 grand is alot for this car but then again it does something that you can do with a GT500, go through snow.  Dont get me wrong id rather build my fox to be faster then both but if I had all the money in the world id think aboot one.
Um, WHAT.  No one that can afford to buy this car will put it through rain or snow.  They will be babied in climate controled garages.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 12/2/2007 11:28:15 PM   
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I dunno. 

It's not about rain or snow.  It's about turning AND burning.
My mustang is gonna push in a straight line and is built not to break, but you gotta be honest.  The nissan is made to go fast around a track. 
for drag, i'll take the ford rear-end any day.  but you can't win 'em all. 

different competitions is all. it's a decent car.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 12/10/2007 11:15:44 PM   
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lol at some peoples' posts.......  

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 12/14/2007 10:59:29 PM   
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the new GTR is definitely badass but soo much money...

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 12/17/2007 10:17:34 AM   
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I read an article in AUTOMOBILE magazine and they posted 473hp/423tq and the car weighed in at a hefty 3800+ pounds even with light weight materials. That's going to be a fast car no doubt but to be able to take on a Z06 (I read the Corvette killer article too) or the Viper/GT500 is not going to happen with those numbers. Us Maro and GT boys may have a problem with this car on the streets but then again our cars didn't cost 80K.

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RE: A new breed of evil...2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R - 12/17/2007 11:22:45 AM   
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looks nice but i'll stick with my mustang, even though its slower being a stock GT. I'm happy with what i've got!

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