sorry i was just trying to make some conflict, make thing interesting,
but think about it, if you stand on the side of the road as a car drives buy at 100mph, and a car is 3 lengths out on another would you even be able to time that difference on a stopwatch- no
ORIGINAL: cacimar uuhhh that statment about mustang being driven mostly by girsl is gonna bring a big tail, u better have ur flame suit on
everyone knows thats ford 90% of the reason mustangs exsist is because of the 6 cylinder, heck back in 64 all you could get was a 6 cyl and guess what, it was marketed to women in their 30s,
this is about the % for people i see in mustangs
40% women in 6ers because there cute 30% men in 6ers because the buy it cause it says mustang on the side, nothing more 10% men in v8s who are pricks and leave them mostly stock and think they are "fast" stock (60% of the people on here) 9% men in v8s that actually mod their cars and know what they are doing (sad its only 9%) (40% of the people on here) 1% other
btw i consider the fast breaking point average for every car out there compaired to each other is 14.0 or faster, quicker then you can call yourself fast, slower then spend some more money
base on the srt8 charger is 36, and that extra 15 grand you would pay for the cahrger over the mustang is totally worth it, the new mustangs are so striped down and basic
and i wouldnt say the mustang is the best selling PERFORMANCE car, seeing how less than 0% produced were "performance"
You are a mustang hater that is all pal, what do u drive? Chargers are great but porky my friend.
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exactly. so, you cannot measure 3 lengths being .015 tenths of a second. I understand you want to make things intersting, but, remember, we are not here to start **** with other mustang owners, and other enthusiasts. I am still waiting for some charger guy to come running along to call bs on me. Especially if they have more TQ then I. Obviously, they do not remember they are heavy. Power:Weight Ratio is a bit** huh?
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the more you write the more pissed off i get with your statements, all your percentage bs are only assumptions that u have pulled out of your ass, i used to have a mustang 4.0 cuz i liked it a lot. It was not fast by any means but sure it was a really nice car. You are just hurt because the new S197 have stolen the thunder from the charger in performance wise and in looks. (Not including the srt8 though )
well the s197 was unvailed in mid 04 and the charger wasnt out til 06 so um, not much stealing there
i dont hate the mustang one bit at all, what i hate more than anything is the ego that gos with it
i have no problem with telling you my car
i drive a 1972 plymouth duster and it is a veyr slow 100hp 225 ci 6 cylinder, it is slower tha the average car now a days but i put in an incredible front suspention, and a complete custom dash ( no not just a pice of plain sheet metal) and wiringharness made from scratch, i will have a stroker bigblock to go in it which will make in the 500-600hp range- and the total price for all this, less than $20k, because i can build it myself, i will have a low 11 car that is not only quick but can stop from 60 in 105 ft and can pull 1 g on the skidpad
profile that
but the biggest reason i am doing this is because i will never see another one, i dont have to sit a light in my brand new car, and see a 300lb 40 year old lady pull up with an identical car as me
< Message edited by moparrr07 -- 10/16/2007 4:59:47 PM >
im tired of rehashing this subject-so this wont be nice---
lets compair these cars side by side mustang charger weight 3500 vs 4200 force in yes vs no cams 2 vs 1
its all about the cubic inches, maybe one of these day for dwill at least put a 5.4 in the mustang, if you look at every performance mustang ford has built, they either had to supercharge it, or put on some huge cylender heads, start with the big engine then you can add those later for godly hp
and btw 3 lengths is only ABOUT a tenth and a 1/2
imo the chargers are amazing looking, they look like they just want to kick your ass, the mustang on the other hand, which i do think they look pretty decent, seem to be mostly liked girls in thier 20s, thats all i see is them driving around 6 cyl all cutsied up, they really had somthing with the 04 cobra front bumper and imo ruined it when they went to the "retro body style", which is a digrace to the true 67-68 mustangs, take a look at the new challenger, thats how you redo a classic - which look would you rather have, cutsy car or mean looking
chargers were runnner up for 06 motor trend car off the year the first year in its production, how many cars can claim that huh? plus the 300 was #1 in 05,
not to mention that you can actually fit 5 people in it comfortably, and its a 4 door, so what does that make it slow? its targeted at guys in thier 40s with kids,
sorry, you cannot rip on the looks of a mustang, when talking about a charger. altho i like them to some extent, they are boats, have no manual option, and are 4 doors. if you want to talk about a company that screwed their "name plate" then the charger is much better to look at, over the retro stang.
and it took them 3 tries with their hemi to get a decent looking muscle car, the mag, 300c, and charger, in my mind are more of a dub'd out bling mobile then they are muscle cars (in todays day in age)
what about the egos that goes with anyone that thinks they have a fast car? this goes for camaros, gto's, chargers, 300C's, etc. No offense to anyone, but try not to make it look like only mustang owners come with egos. As far as I am concerned, mustang owners are awesome on the road. Always getting nods out of respect. Anyone else, chargers,gto's, camaros, etc, they just look at me and start to rev and race. THAT is an ego.
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thsta exactly what kills the srt8, the weight my srt8 was 4400 lb and i was making 390 rwhp and 387 rwtq without the 125 shot, i remembered i was beaten by a stang from a dead stop but it was modded, the other advantage i see its that its easier and cheaper to make a stang go faster than any srt8 i love both cars and respect them for what they are and offer at least thats my opinion.
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exactly t (hemi chargers ) produce impressive numbers but they are heavy too. To be honest i really like the srt8 charger cuz it is way nicer that the r/t chargers but they are not unbeatable. Just like Mustang owner might have an big ego im sure you mopars guys have it too as we (gto owners) do too, whats your point?
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exactly t (hemi chargers ) produce impressive numbers but they are heavy too. To be honest i really like the srt8 charger cuz it is way nicer that the r/t chargers but they are not unbeatable. Just like Mustang owners might have an big ego im sure you mopars guys have it too as we (gto owners) do too, whats your point?
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what about the egos that goes with anyone that thinks they have a fast car? this goes for camaros, gto's, chargers, 300C's, etc. No offense to anyone, but try not to make it look like only mustang owners come with egos. As far as I am concerned, mustang owners are awesome on the road. Always getting nods out of respect. Anyone else, chargers,gto's, camaros, etc, they just look at me and start to rev and race. THAT is an ego.
Mustang owners are DOUCHE BAGS
Ha Ha just kidding I love you guys!
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Roll racing isn''t racing. Its just 2 retards speeding together!
everyone knows thats ford 90% of the reason mustangs exsist is because of the 6 cylinder, heck back in 64 all you could get was a 6 cyl and guess what, it was marketed to women in their 30s,
this is about the % for people i see in mustangs
40% women in 6ers because there cute 30% men in 6ers because the buy it cause it says mustang on the side, nothing more 10% men in v8s who are pricks and leave them mostly stock and think they are "fast" stock (60% of the people on here) 9% men in v8s that actually mod their cars and know what they are doing (sad its only 9%) (40% of the people on here) 1% other
btw i consider the fast breaking point average for every car out there compaired to each other is 14.0 or faster, quicker then you can call yourself fast, slower then spend some more money
base on the srt8 charger is 36, and that extra 15 grand you would pay for the cahrger over the mustang is totally worth it, the new mustangs are so striped down and basic
and i wouldnt say the mustang is the best selling PERFORMANCE car, seeing how less than 0% produced were "performance"
you know, i love how this guy posts these stats on the mustang... did he just pull them out of his @$$? probubly.
the last statement about the "bling" is still my position...
to add, the charger and all its counterparts, they are boats, because they cost 36k. its not worth the money, when i buy a mustang, i want something with performance, not a @** warmer in my seat. i dont want to feel like im sitting on a couch driving down the road with my "no brains required to drive" auto only option (no offence to auto mustang owners but its my stance)
i cant see how you think your going to get your point across on a mustang forum, on why mustangs suck... are you an idiot? or just special?
you need to re think all your points. MOST people buy the v6 charger, and MOST people slap some kinda crap on them just like people do with the stang, the only reason why you may see more, is because its been around longer... just wait till the v6 charger is 10 years old... they will be everywhere.
and the v8 charger, like every other v8 is held up by the v6... your car is not any different then the mustang.
its one of the reasons why the goat had problems... if it had a v6 option, im sure it would still be pushed by gm
< Message edited by joshafmil -- 10/16/2007 5:12:38 PM >
what about the egos that goes with anyone that thinks they have a fast car? this goes for camaros, gto's, chargers, 300C's, etc. No offense to anyone, but try not to make it look like only mustang owners come with egos. As far as I am concerned, mustang owners are awesome on the road. Always getting nods out of respect. Anyone else, chargers,gto's, camaros, etc, they just look at me and start to rev and race. THAT is an ego.
Dude that doesnt mean we have ego, that is just the way we say HI to the competition
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dodge didnt screw with the charger name at all, they didnt make it as a copy of the original or to pay respect, like ford did, they are adding to the chargers rich legacy, making new cars that add to how great it is, it is THE SAME EXACT THING with the gto, its a great and fast car but it not like they are trying to pay tribute to the old one,
everyone forgets that dodge made a fwd charger in the 80s lol
yes people bling some out but who really cares,
the autos in those cars are extremly smart and just by driving right, can be made fast
everyone has diferent egos, its just the mustang one is in an entire diferent class, i have had many people ask me if my car is a mustang, you bastards
< Message edited by moparrr07 -- 10/16/2007 5:08:41 PM >
everyone knows thats ford 90% of the reason mustangs exsist is because of the 6 cylinder, heck back in 64 all you could get was a 6 cyl and guess what, it was marketed to women in their 30s,
this is about the % for people i see in mustangs
40% women in 6ers because there cute 30% men in 6ers because the buy it cause it says mustang on the side, nothing more 10% men in v8s who are pricks and leave them mostly stock and think they are "fast" stock (60% of the people on here) 9% men in v8s that actually mod their cars and know what they are doing (sad its only 9%) (40% of the people on here) 1% other
btw i consider the fast breaking point average for every car out there compaired to each other is 14.0 or faster, quicker then you can call yourself fast, slower then spend some more money
base on the srt8 charger is 36, and that extra 15 grand you would pay for the cahrger over the mustang is totally worth it, the new mustangs are so striped down and basic
and i wouldnt say the mustang is the best selling PERFORMANCE car, seeing how less than 0% produced were "performance"
you know, i love how this guy posts these stats on the mustang... did he just pull them out of his @$$? pobubly.
the last statement about the "bling" is still my position...
to add, the charger and all its counterparts, they are boats, because they cost 36k. its not worth the money, when i buy a mustang, i want something with performance, not a @** warmer in my seat. i dont want to feel like im sitting on a couch driving down the road with my "no brains required to drive" auto only option (no offence to auto mustang owners but its my stance)
i cant see how you think your going to get your point across on a mustang forum, on why mustangs suck... are you an idiot? or just special?
you need to re think all your points. MOST people buy the v6 charger, and MOST people slap some kinda crap on then just like people do with the stang, the only reason why you may see more, is because its been around longer... just wait till the v6 charger is 10 years old... they will be everywhere.
and the v8 charger, like every other v8 is held up by the v6... your car is not any different then the mustang.
its one of the reasons why the goat had problems... if it had a v6 option, im sure it would still be pushed by gm
Ehhhh Ferraris dont have a v6 and they are still out there
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I found that out the hard way before I got my S/C. Two black GTo's whipped my arse really good. the other guy was revving so damn loud, my car was shaking, no bs. i think he had a turbo too. don't be mad mustang owners, but the guy that installed my vortech, owns a 2004 GTO, with like 1K miles on it, and is rebuilding it to a built up 402, and will be putting down 800RWHP +. I love the color, that blue, with the blue leather seats, with the blue accents everywhere. Very nice. Back on point, everyone has an ego at some point. Especially HONDA OWNERS!!!
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dodge didnt screw with the charger name at all, they didnt make it as a copy of the original or to pay respect, like ford did, they are adding to the chargers rich legacy, making new cars that add to how great it is, it is THE SAME EXACT THING with the gto, its a great and fast car but it not like they are trying to pay tribute to the old one,
everyone forgets that dodge made a fwd charger in the 80s lol
yes people bling some out but who really cares,
the autos in those cars are extremly smart and just by driving right, can be made fast
I respectfully disagree on this one, i think dodge did screw the chargers name by adding two more doors to it. GTOs is a different story though
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I found that out the hard way before I got my S/C. Two black GTo's whipped my arse really good. the other guy was revving so damn loud, my car was shaking, no bs. i think he had a turbo too. don't be mad mustang owners, but the guy that installed my vortech, owns a 2004 GTO, with like 1K miles on it, and is rebuilding it to a built up 402, and will be putting down 800RWHP +. I love the color, that blue, with the blue leather seats, with the blue accents everywhere. Very nice. Back on point, everyone has an ego at some point. Especially HONDA OWNERS!!!
Maybe those GTOs were cammed, they get sick fast. Im saving to cam my goat and some 243 ported heads and push 400+ rwhp. Back on the point Honda owners do have some attitude problems lol
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dodge didnt screw with the charger name at all, they didnt make it as a copy of the original or to pay respect, like ford did, they are adding to the chargers rich legacy, making new cars that add to how great it is, it is THE SAME EXACT THING with the gto, its a great and fast car but it not like they are trying to pay tribute to the old one,
everyone forgets that dodge made a fwd charger in the 80s lol
yes people bling some out but who really cares,
the autos in those cars are extremly smart and just by driving right, can be made fast
everyone has diferent egos, its just the mustang one is in an entire diferent class, i have had many people ask me if my car is a mustang, you bastards
you are a hypocrite, and are fighting the very thing you hate... you bitch about mustang owners being cocky, and then you come on a mustang site, and trash the mustang...
dodge didnt add to the charger, they ****ed with it. they didnt make it better, they took away. they put the 4 doors on it which just suck, they made one option for a tranny, which is stupid. its more of a luxary mobile then it is a performance muscle car.
and if you dont care that its blinged out, then dont bitch about stangs. women drive the v6 charger just like everything else.
i LIKE the charger, and the challenger... i dont bash them for fun, but when a POS decids to dump garbage on my fav car, then its something that is done.
you are in an entirely different class, and im sure many charger owners are not like you, but seriously, shut the F*** up before you make any more of an idiot of yourself.
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