Why would this guy say his Comaro beats a mustang?
link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-5-Spd-V6-Chevy-Camaro-Blue-low-miles-NO-RESERVE-BEATS-MUSTANG_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6161QQihZ016QQi temZ260164757132QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
My 95 smoked one newer than his!
jovez
10-03-2007, 07:18 PM
First of all i find it hard to believe that your 95 will beat a 3800 series RS. secondly, you really cant beat a newer camaro becuase 2002 was the last year they were made.
But all in all, they are rated 10 horses more than a splitport mustang. I owned a 97 RS prior to my mustang and raced a few stangs and won by a hair each time.
His descriptiuon about gas mileage kinda makes me laugh, cuz the LS1 gets around 30 mpg while the RS is about 28-29
blue stang
10-03-2007, 07:31 PM
sorry I ment newer looking but I think the one I raced was a 2002. same look anyways.
about my car: I have intake, spark wire, and muffler mods to push me up to 200 horse and almost 225 lb of tourque. I also have a little weight reduction mods.
Anyways what anoyed me was that he included mustang in the title so when you search for mustang stuff, his add apears to nage at you.
flash20
10-03-2007, 08:03 PM
those mods u listed wont getu to 200hp on a single port
90lxstang
10-03-2007, 08:20 PM
not even close
Blainestang
10-03-2007, 09:25 PM
ORIGINAL: 90lxstang
not even close
Intake, wires, and mufflers aren't worth 55hp? [&:]
amrcnidyot
10-03-2007, 09:35 PM
ORIGINAL: Blainestang
ORIGINAL: 90lxstang
not even close
Intake, wires, and mufflers aren't worth 55hp? [&:]
LOL
blue stang
10-03-2007, 10:35 PM
who told you my 95 is a single port?;)
jovez
10-03-2007, 11:10 PM
the only mods you said you had was a "custom built CAI" Id think a splitport swap would be listed as a mod.
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_3146774/tm.htm
jthorn9
10-03-2007, 11:10 PM
Well 95 5.0s and V6s are single port, and even if it's a split port, Camaro sixes are fairly quick, I was much more impressed with a buddies Camaro V6 that was mostly stock than I was with any mostly stock mustang 94-04. He had an auto with only a tuner and that thing was pretty mean for a sixer. Comming from a person that owned a 98 V6 I can gurantee you that you DID NOT beat a 97-02 Camaro V6 unless there was something drastically wrong with the car and or he just wasn't racing.
flash20
10-04-2007, 07:03 AM
ORIGINAL: blue stang
who told you my 95 is a single port?;)
ok even on a split port u wont see those numbers. i can tell u dont what ur talking about when u list plug wires as a mod [&:]
blue stang
10-04-2007, 07:53 AM
after market spark plug wiers are a mod.
jthorn9
10-04-2007, 10:51 AM
Do I dare call you a ricer?:eek:
Listen kid, spark plug wires do not add power, period, they only affect high hp cars that are taking a hit due to stock flowing wires, not stock cars that don't need any extra boost. Now granted, they make the engine bay look better, but that's about it.
A cai will only get you around 2-3 rwhp on a 98, and exhaust around 5, still a far cry from the rwhp needed to beat any 94-02 camaro.
nanaki
10-04-2007, 11:02 AM
ORIGINAL: blue stang
after market spark plug wiers are a mod.
so is a seat cover, that doesn't mean it adds any power.
jthorn9
10-04-2007, 11:14 AM
ORIGINAL: nanaki
ORIGINAL: blue stang
after market spark plug wiers are a mod.
so is a seat cover, that doesn't mean it adds any power.
Somebody just got....................
http://www.owned.com/Owned_Pictures/Exhibitionist_Owned.jpg
blue stang
10-04-2007, 11:44 AM
I don't know what your talking about. the wires are near 0 ohm resistance and I garente I gained power. the cai makes the engine run rich and wast gass you put on spark wires and not only can you and all your friend feel a diference but you gain 2 mpg.
As for the camaro issue, thats just a shaky issue only mustang "geeks" would agree with me on. the point is that People have driven both and some will say a camaro will beat a mustang and others will say a mustang will beat a camaro. I actualy beat a camaro so I think a mustang beats a camaro expecaly since they even have more power. Their extra weight makes up for the extra power leaving the race to the driver.
nanaki
10-04-2007, 11:52 AM
i would say quit while you're ahead but....
jthorn9
10-04-2007, 12:04 PM
ORIGINAL: nanaki
i would say quit while you're ahead but....
+1
OK, I didn't want to do it, but here it goes:
I owned a 1998 torch red Mustang V6, here is some stock info, my dyno along with a pic or two, and my mod list.
1994-1995 Ford Mustang V6
145 bhp
215 lb of tq
0-60 -9.2s manual, 9.9s auto
1/4 mile - 16.2-16.5 manual, 16.8-17.1 auto
1996-1998 Ford Mustang V6
150 bhp
215 lb of tq
all the same info
Now with that out the way my 1998 sixer had these mods when I ran her on the dyno (this is not my whole mod list as I added a few things after, but here's what it had):
ebay CAI w/ K&N filter[:'(][:'(][:'(]
ASP 24% reduction underdrive pullies
V6 O/R X pipe
Magnaflow Catbacks
9mm red spark plug wires from stangwires
Diablo custom tune (probably yielded the most power)
Now, before you say something bad about the dyno, or dyno opperator, here is my 5.0, same place, about a year later, same guys, I'd have to say, they're fairly accurate.
I don't know what your talking about. the wires are near 0 ohm resistance and I garente I gained power. the cai makes the engine run rich and wast gass you put on spark wires and not only can you and all your friend feel a diference but you gain 2 mpg.
As for the camaro issue, thats just a shaky issue only mustang "geeks" would agree with me on. the point is that People have driven both and some will say a camaro will beat a mustang and others will say a mustang will beat a camaro. I actualy beat a camaro so I think a mustang beats a camaro expecaly since they even have more power. Their extra weight makes up for the extra power leaving the race to the driver.
No, you didn't, maybe .3 rwhp at best.
No, a cai does not make an engine run rich, damn, learn a thing or two before you start talking about it.
Only thing I partially agree with you on
Yes, you're right, but that's comparing a 99-04 manual V6 Mustang against the same year Camaro, not a 94-98 V6.
90lxstang
10-04-2007, 12:20 PM
just let it go op. you are not going to convince us that wires add power to a tired stock v6
mustangman02232
10-04-2007, 12:41 PM
a Y87 3800 fbod is capable of high 14s/low 15s all day, a 3.4 that is stock will be a better race for a single port but those still run low 16s or so, ontop of having the better (well somewhat) 4l60 tranny they also have a 3.23 or a 3.42 (Y87) rear end, which is alot better then the 2.73 of the stangs or even the 3.27s in the new edges.
a Y87 and the new 4.0s are driver races, a single port will get its ass handed on a platter by them
as for wires, no more air in/out of the motor = no more power
WhitePony02
10-04-2007, 02:19 PM
ORIGINAL: blue stang
after market spark plug wiers are a mod.
Do you have a big aluminum wing on your car as well?
jthorn9
10-04-2007, 02:32 PM
ORIGINAL: WhitePony02
ORIGINAL: blue stang
after market spark plug wiers are a mod.
Do you have a big aluminum wing on your car as well?
Hahahaha..............OWNED X 2.[sm=icon_rofl.gif][sm=icon_rofl.gif][sm=icon_rofl.gif]
hpwrestler220
10-04-2007, 04:00 PM
i didnt wanna chime in on this but it seems you guys are having trouble convincing him lol.
i have an 01' auto stang with CAI X-Pipe and catback...
my friend has an 00' Camaro with Full Exhaust, chip, and intake
we've never raced from a dig but we raced from like 20 on
he always finishes no more than a car on me.. depending on what speed we start at, he can get 2 cars on me by the time we hit 90ish...
anyways, with that being said, idk how your car, rated at much less HP than my car, can even KEEP UP with a camaro of that kind...
than again, add the aluminum wing and u'll prob win [&:]
flash20
10-04-2007, 04:06 PM
bwhahahhahaha this thread is funny
amrcnidyot
10-04-2007, 04:31 PM
ORIGINAL: flash20
bwhahahhahaha this thread is funny
+10000, i had a 95 camaro and sh*t, that thing was probably just as fast as my 00 mustang. i loved the tranny in it too, its way way better than the ford auto..
Xemeth
10-04-2007, 04:55 PM
So I think we can all agree that the OP is a moron?
I'm not gonna correct all of your misconceptions, since most have been taken care of more than once, but I am gonna say that you're a prime example of why the V6 section gets so much **** from the V8 owners.
flash20
10-04-2007, 05:27 PM
ORIGINAL: Xemeth
So I think we can all agree that the OP is a moron?
I'm not gonna correct all of your misconceptions, since most have been taken care of more than once, but I am gonna say that you're a prime example of why the V6 section gets so much **** from the V8 owners.
he is not a moron he just doesnt know as much as he thinks he does. god forbid a v8 owner hates the v6 section [&:]
MACHJUAN
10-04-2007, 05:47 PM
on a brighter side my car got a mod next im going to spray a 200 shot:D
i cant wait
jthorn9
10-04-2007, 06:33 PM
ORIGINAL: flash20
ORIGINAL: Xemeth
So I think we can all agree that the OP is a moron?
I'm not gonna correct all of your misconceptions, since most have been taken care of more than once, but I am gonna say that you're a prime example of why the V6 section gets so much **** from the V8 owners.
he is not a moron he just doesnt know as much as he thinks he does. god forbid a v8 owner hates the v6 section [&:]
Hey, I don't hate the sixer section.:eek::D
94Blk5.0
10-04-2007, 09:39 PM
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
a Y87 3800 fbod is capable of high 14s/low 15s all day, a 3.4 that is stock will be a better race for a single port but those still run low 16s or so, ontop of having the better (well somewhat) 4l60 tranny they also have a 3.23 or a 3.42 (Y87) rear end, which is alot better then the 2.73 of the stangs or even the 3.27s in the new edges.
a Y87 and the new 4.0s are driver races, a single port will get its ass handed on a platter by them
as for wires, no more air in/out of the motor = no more power
Yeah I think the OP ran a 3.4
Not necessarily, the "triangle of power" = air, fuel, spark.Thats why cars can pick up power by advancing timing, adjusting fuel/spark curves, adding mutli-spark igntion controls and so on. Cars can pick up power by tuning w/o increas in air flow.(The previos sentence is not ment for application to the OP 's car, just a general statement.)If the OP had a old set of crappy wires, and he replaced them with some larger diameter, lower resistence wires he proably did feel a dfference. Not that you can sayyou gained HP over the stock output, but if it was hinderd, a "tune-up is going to help
94mustang10298
10-05-2007, 11:27 AM
i hate to put my 2 cents in ....i have an 04 mustang and every v6 camaro from 2002 and before i have beat either by a car or truck lenghts either way ive never met a v6 firebird/trans-am or camaro that can beat me in maryland...
jthorn9
10-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Well duhh.......... you're running N2O.:eek:
hpwrestler220
10-05-2007, 11:23 PM
ORIGINAL: jthorn9
Well duhh.......... you're running N2O.:eek:
lol. i thought i was the only one who noticed that
djb1187
10-05-2007, 11:54 PM
lol wow this is stupid. no your v6 split port or single port wont beat a v6 camaro. Back when i had my lil 6 when i first started driving i had a friend with a 98 camaro. I wouldnt even be close to beating it. sorry and yes this guy is a prime example of v6 owners that make the v6 look bad
eddiev22
10-06-2007, 12:10 AM
ORIGINAL: blue stang
Why would this guy say his Comaro beats a mustang?
link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-5-Spd-V6-Chevy-Camaro-Blue-low-miles-NO-RESERVE-BEATS-MUSTANG_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6161QQihZ016QQi temZ260164757132QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
My 95 smoked one newer than his!
Ummm... Comaro? wtf?
amrcnidyot
10-06-2007, 12:21 AM
ORIGINAL: 94mustang10298
i hate to put my 2 cents in ....i have an 04 mustang and every v6 camaro from 2002 and before i have beat either by a car or truck lenghts either way ive never met a v6 firebird/trans-am or camaro that can beat me in maryland...
i am sure that there are many many v6 camaros and firebirds that could kill you. even with the nitrous. and the transam is the V8 version of the firebird..no v6 transams.
xX98StallionXx
10-06-2007, 11:13 AM
I was about to say... how the hell did you race a V6 Trans Am... thats a hell of an engine swap for you...
Blainestang
10-06-2007, 01:23 PM
ORIGINAL: djb1187
lol wow this is stupid. no your v6 split port or single port wont beat a v6 camaro. Back when i had my lil 6 when i first started driving i had a friend with a 98 camaro. I wouldnt even be close to beating it. sorry and yes this guy is a prime example of v6 owners that make the v6 look bad
Split-port V6 Mustang vs. 3800 Camaro is a driver's race, plain and simple. You act like the V6 Camaro is SOOO much faster or something. It's not... especially if it's not a Y87.
crash
10-06-2007, 01:43 PM
man i juss wasted like 7 minutes readin all these post lol,
LilRoush
10-06-2007, 08:35 PM
True, but at least you got a laugh out of reading them all.
Justin_R
10-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Ok since were on this subject I minus well ask, this kid at my auto class I take has a97v6 camaro that has like 225,000 I thinkits auto with full exhaust no headers, intake, tune, cams andnot sure if he has different heads as well. but he has either 18 or 17 inch chrome wheels. How bad do you think he would take my stock 04 V6 mustang?