ORIGINAL: sactown Not to trash LETHAL PERFORMANCE, INC. but I think it is a little cheap on their part to steer you to what they are selling. With that said I have NEVER heard anything bad about them, but it looks like they are hunting for customers on this forum, LETHAL PERFORMANCE, INC. I am not trying to trash you guys and I think your input is great, but I don't think you should push anyone to a product let them make thier own choice, and again I have nothing against the whipple.
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ORIGINAL: explict
Ok I have my mind set on a supercharger. Most likely a Whipple. I was just wondering what I need that doesnt come with the kit.
For example a boost guage, fuel pressure guage, what else? I'm looking to run somwhere amongst 5-8 PSI.
I would have disagree with you as the original post by Explicit was about him being more set on the Whipple than anything else. I sell both Whipple and Saleen however I recomend the Whipple for many reasons which I later discussed in this thread. To me I was not steering but more so informing and responding.
In fact you're the one who started steering and making claims which you can't back with any type of data. You were the first one to take Explicit's thread about a Whipple and make it about Saleen. Again, I'm not here to debate with people or but heads but if you're going to say stuff you should be able to back it up with something,
The posts listed below including yours were replied to with real data and none have which were replied with any real information to show otherwise.
Thanks, Jared
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ORIGINAL: sactown
I would answer your question but I have a Saleen SC, whipple is good by Saleen is better.
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I have given more technical information about these blowers than anyone else and I only wanted that information to be useful. Stating facts after other peoples statements with no backing shouldn't be looked at as steering.
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ORIGINAL: sactown
Just poking a little fun at the whipple guys! Whipple makes a great SC, and personally I love the polished one and it looks like a tradition blower, but the Saleen is more efficent that's how the Saleen guys on this forum can make 425+rwhp at 6.5psi. But don't worry about what I say or anyone else get what makes YOU happy. No matter what you go with trust me it will be fun! Nothing like laying down a 60ft patch of rubber in 2nd gear!
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The Saleen is a more efficient SC due to the airflow path.This is how the saleen gives more for less, so to say. The rock polisher sound happens to me when the engine is cold. It's called "rotor slap" and occurs when the unit is cold. It effects nothing and has zero detrimental effect. I did have the SC-firewall clearance issue but that is an easy fix. I also have a dime-sized spot that is rubbed into my hood liner.
The only thing I don't like about the Saleen is that it's quiet. I expected a lowder blower whine but it's just not there very much. The good news is that other stangs think they might have a chance next to me. I have a stock exhaust and I've stayed with a somewhat sleeper look and I know other stang drivers are in awe when we "get on it" and I leave them behind.
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ORIGINAL: 06Saleen3V The Saleen blower is safer for stock internals though...
Yeah I know there will be costs, thats why I am going to collect stuff throughout the winter! I like the Whipple, The Saleen usually costs like at least $1000 more.
The part I liked about the Saleen is you keep the (over 300 dealer network) 3/36K if you have an authorized Saleen dealer install it. Drivetrain warranty is completely lost after you install the whipple. Ford backs Saleen and there 300 + dealers, not whipple. However in defense of the whipple I have not heard of any people blow there motors yet on that setup. The Key is good install, and good "safe" tune.
I hope you don't think your engine is covered with that 3.4 inch pulley. You'd better have that in writting because when it comes time for them to pay up they might be singing a different song.
I didn't go with the saleen because of the crazy way they flip the alternator around backwards and change the alternator pulley, plus I didn't understand how they were making 475 crank hp without a fuel pump upgrade. Obviously it's possible, but I didn't want to rely on the stock pump.
I would like to see someone who had brenspeed.com install it, try and get warranty coverage if the engine lets go.
As for Jared pushing the whipple and dogging on the saleen, i don't see that at all. I was going to say the same thing. The saleen is more efficient, better on stock internals? Sounds like propaganda to me, nothing to back that up.
In the end I ordered the whipple because it was the same price as the brenspeed stage 2 saleen, but I got the dual GT500 fuel pumps for that price. So eventually when I get a built block i'll be ready.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
Here ya go, this is from Mustang Life. And yes I am sure you can find something like this on the Whipple also.
The Series VI supercharger system from Saleen Saleen Series VI utilizes a TwinScrew supercharger with a two-stage water-to-air intercooling system.
A second cooler located in the airdam below the engine radiator assists the intercooler integrated into the supercharger assembly. compact, light weight and high efficiency - Essentially, the Saleen design integrates the previously separate intake manifold, blower housing/assembly and intercooler into one compact unit that nestles neatly into the valley between the heads. This allows for a much wider intake manifold.
The shape of the "snorkel" opening for the intake air tube is designed for maximum flow. And to maintain a constant volume of air as the air flows toward the rear of the engine, the housing widens and lattens-out over the engine. All bends are opened up to provide smooth airflow.
The blower assembly contains twin screws, which push 2300 cc of air per rotation As a result, the supercharger turns slower for equivalent boost, producing lower stress and lower air charge temperatures. The higher supercharger efficiency, along with the lower air charge temperatures, allows for an intercooler that is smaller, lighter and more compact and which has virtually zero pressure drop from inlet-to-outlet side.
It features an integrated bypass for low-speed running; when you are driving at low speeds and don't require boost, the bypass helps reduce heat buildup in the engine. The Saleen design provides for optimal runner length, resulting in more torque and better low-end drivability.
It features long, beefy downdraft runners with minimal bends for maximizing torque and horsepower. The new design provides a straight, direct shot into the cylinders which maximizes airflow.
This design is much more maintenance-friendly. It has only one sealing surface and you only have to remove the eight screws that bolt theair tube to the plenum for access to all of the blower components. The overall efficiency gains-in the engine, the supercharger and the intercooler-mean the Saleen supercharged 3V-V8 produces more horsepower and torque at a less stressful 4-5 psi boost - 400 horsepower, and 420 lb-ft of torque,
All that was written by saleen. I bet you'd find there is virtually no difference at 6,8 or even 10psi with the two superchargers if you put them both on the same car and tuned them equally. Both probably use Lysolm screws anyway.
Mike, I believe it was originally rated at 405 or 415rwhp, but they changed it early on. Probably not every car was making that much power. If you really want to know try asking justin at vmptuning what hp he's seen. I know he's tuned the non-intercooled kit at 6 and even 8psi.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
Hey Moose, you know I ain't out to trash the whipple, and I actually emailed Saleen to see if they had number comparing the 2 and they did not and I spent most of my day today (at work) looking for an article comparing the 2 and did not find anything which leads me to believe that they are very close, with no hands down winner, which is fine by me, but either way we both kick a$$ over the others! Also if I trash Lethal Performance it was not my intent.
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Haha sorry to have started a rivalry. Like I said the only reason I wanted to go with the Whipple over the Saleen is the price difference, I cant see how there is a big difference between the two for such a price difference.
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