thank you pperin for being one of the few people to not be totally agaisnt it. and for everyone else who says im an idiot for wanting one, well good for you, and have fun living in a bubble for rest of your life.
This entire thread is stupid. Why even post if this is the type of response you are going to give? How about we get back to the Mustang discussion now.
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Lay off him already. He is pointing out statistics. Everyone knows motorcycles are not safe. If you take a safe riding course, your chances are better, if you excercise safe riding and obey the speed limits your chances are even better. But there is still the fact that "other" people cause motorcycle riders grief. You can't argue motorcycles are safe, you are exposed to things you would normally be safe from if you were in a car.
Drop the whole arguing thing and get back to Mustang discussion.
I rode bikes for a long time. Just got rid of my Triumph 675 actually. This was due to losing my best friend of 16 years on March 11th. I am not going to blast you, but shouldn't you start on a little more forgiving bike? A race replica is just that. Every move you make will affect the handling of a RR. It took me years before I could ride a bike to 90% of its capabilities. I suggest a nice, USED, Ninja 250 or 500. You are going to mash this bikes guts out. You will also learn to ride a bike. They are forgiving, fast, fun little bikes. Its also fun to smoke a GSXR 750 on a twisty road because the GIXXER kids a squid and cant ride to save his tail. Talk about a nice kill! I wish I had one, actually. The RR's are beautiful. I think they are too much for a beggining rider, regardless of age. Please consider this advice, coming from a 31 yr old washed up has been weekend racer. Spend your bread on gear. Thats what you will need before speed. Not a craptastic HJC dealer helmet and a sweatshirt with Nike's. ATGATT. < all the gear, all the time. Be safe regardless, dont grip the bars tight, look 10 seconds ahead, stay shiny side up. Anyways, anyone did a flaming river swap and are willing to share info?
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pperin, pull that stick out of ur ass man, this guy is just trying to warn the kid. everyone here knows how dangerous the bikes are but dennis is just pointing out the facts from a police officers point of view. yeah when riding a bike you are more likely to GET hit then HIT someone. but the fact of the matter is your going to get hurt. how many people do u see riding crotchrockets going slow and just cruising or going the speed limit??not many, they are all speeding in and out of traffic or flying down main streets showing off to some chick. I tried for about 2 months to convince my brother not to get a bike, not because i dont want him to have a fast vehicle but because i know something is going to happen whether he causes it or not. like someone already said its not if yopur going to lay down the bike, its WHEN are you going to lay it down. i took my bro's bike for a spin and yeah its a blast but its very dangerous. but hey man you have to show some respect to dennis, he is only trying to help. hes not the kids father so he doesnt make the decision of whether he gets the bike or not but if i were the kid i would be thanking dennis for telling him the downside to having a bike, FROM A COPS POV. it might scare the kid but it should, those things are not toys. you have to be very carefull. To the OP, if u get the bike watch out for other people, people are stupid and on that small bike its very hard to see you.
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yeah, i won't tell you not to get one, just to not trust the other drivers on the road. i'm sure you will do your part and be as careful as you can (and at times be a lil dangerous) but never trust others on the road. think about who we all drive next to: young kids who speed and change lanes without turnsignals, mid-age road ragers, old folks with slow response times. these are the ones bikers need to look out for the most besides themsleves. whenever i'm on the freeway and bikers ride inbetween lanes in traffic, many car drivers seem to jerk out of the way and almost hit the other car next to them. annoying as f***! or, drivers will swerve a little inward and the bikers get pinched in between two cars. no one is in sync with others on the road and this is a biker's biggest danger. why not a dirt bike? thats what i got. still dangerous but i got just as banged up as i did playing football so it was fine with me. good luck.
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dennis i didnt call you a jackass, that was pperin. and sancho ive already had a dirtbike since i was little
well s**t!....lol......then just dont trust others on the road. they're morons!! can't understand how some of these people even have a license. baffles me. i'd stay as far away from other cars while riding your bike if i were you. good luck.
Im trying to save your a$$ kid, and you have the balls to call me a jack a$$. The only advice your taking is from the ones you want to hear it from.
If anyones a jack ass its you!
The last thing anyone needs is more road kill.
Dennis! The kid didn't call you a jack ass I did. The fact is some guys here are right this is not mustang realted. But if you want facts ...... There are millions of bikes on the road that operate safley including by teens. I am giving the kid the benefit of the doubt. I called you a jackass cause your acting like one the kid never asked for advise on getting the bike and I'm sure your jackass rant won't stop him nor should it. Now, go play Officer Dennis somewhere else and leave the forum to mustang issues. As for the OP I'm sure you'll do the right thing man. I am done with this thread.
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pperin, pull that stick out of ur ass man, this guy is just trying to warn the kid. everyone here knows how dangerous the bikes are but dennis is just pointing out the facts from a police officers point of view. yeah when riding a bike you are more likely to GET hit then HIT someone. but the fact of the matter is your going to get hurt. how many people do u see riding crotchrockets going slow and just cruising or going the speed limit??not many, they are all speeding in and out of traffic or flying down main streets showing off to some chick. I tried for about 2 months to convince my brother not to get a bike, not because i dont want him to have a fast vehicle but because i know something is going to happen whether he causes it or not. like someone already said its not if yopur going to lay down the bike, its WHEN are you going to lay it down. i took my bro's bike for a spin and yeah its a blast but its very dangerous. but hey man you have to show some respect to dennis, he is only trying to help. hes not the kids father so he doesnt make the decision of whether he gets the bike or not but if i were the kid i would be thanking dennis for telling him the downside to having a bike, FROM A COPS POV. it might scare the kid but it should, those things are not toys. you have to be very carefull. To the OP, if u get the bike watch out for other people, people are stupid and on that small bike its very hard to see you.
Hey Dwis, I hear you man I have nothing against warning the kid I did too. But I didn't start going off on how he was going to wind up road kill. The kid never asked to have someone start ranting. You think the kid said he's gonna start doing crack or something. I gave him unasked for advise too, but I tryed to do so with the idea that he's gonna do this which he said he is. I personally agree with his choise to ride, wether he does it safely or not is up to him if he's responsable enough to drive a mustang he can be responsaible enough to learn to ride safe. Taking advise only from a cop is like asking a divorce attorney about geting married!!
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wow, this thread is just garbage and needs to end. everyone knows that motorcycles aren't very safe, but if the kid wants to get one, let him get one! enough of this verbal bashing...
"Taking advise only from a cop is like asking a divorce attorney about geting married!! "
Really, How many bike accidents have you seen? How many bike accidents have you been at/went to? How many bikers have you watched die, because there was nothing you can do? How many bikers parents have you told that there son was involved in an MVA? How many bikes have you loaded up onto a department flatbed to be vouchered as evidence to use in court? WHO the **** are YOU to make any goddamn judgment on motorcycles just because you happen to ride one for the past 20 years? I have the facts, statistics and the knowledge on these things, and had to go through a rider course for our department scooters (not the puzzy ones, they are fast and look like sport bikes) so Ive driven them, and the only thing that kept me from being hit was the red lights on it, that kept motorists under the speed limit and at a safe distance from me.
Please spare us from your "know it all about bikes" attitude, gathered from your joy riding experience!
two months ago a buddy of mine who is in highway patrol assigned highway 2 in brooklyn was hit and run over by an MTA bus while on duty on his highway bike, while leading a funeral procession, he just got out of the hospital this month, and was temporarily paralyzed from the waist down.
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seems like the major problem is that kids get bikes without realizing the REALITY of the danger they put themselves into. if they are honest with themselves and truly responsible, then a bike is not a horrible decision. they just need to be hopeful that nobody else on the road causes them an accident. the same goes with cops on bikes. they know the danger they put themselves into also but accept that risk. i understand its duty vs. pleasure but i'm sure the bike cops have their own leisure bikes at home also. its about being truly responsible. those who are responsible survive, and those who are not, are road kill.......usually.
"i figured a bike is faster than my mustang could ever be and its alot cheaper, so why not. im thinking a gixxer 600 or a ninja zx-6r "
does this sound like someone who is going to respect it, and follow the law...no. He already said he wants it to go fast, faster than his mustang could ever be!
well im 20 n sold my bike last year they are funn little suckers and they are deadly, i had a gsxr 750 my 2 bike( first was a gsxr 600) i love being on a bike but ppl out there are just plain stupid i mean my first bike was run over when i had to ditch it doing 35 after my rear tire blew out, not a fun thing there aint no slow down hold the wheel, but anywayz a 600 is a good starting bike a very good one very balanced and has enough power, but know that not every 600 is created equal! a gsxr 600 is much power lighter, more agile and hard to ride then say a 600 katana(gsx) but do what u want and dont be like me(185mph on the parkway and 210 on i-10 going from jacksonville to tallhasse on a hyabusa) il be the first to admit i was a total idiot on a bike a got very lucky that i didnt die, that why i sold the 750. next year ill get me a 600 again, well good luck whatever u decide, and dennis your are giving the kid good advice! can i get a pba card=)
"Taking advise only from a cop is like asking a divorce attorney about geting married!! "
Really, How many bike accidents have you seen? How many bike accidents have you been at/went to? How many bikers have you watched die, because there was nothing you can do? How many bikers parents have you told that there son was involved in an MVA? How many bikes have you loaded up onto a department flatbed to be vouchered as evidence to use in court? WHO the **** are YOU to make any goddamn judgment on motorcycles just because you happen to ride one for the past 20 years? I have the facts, statistics and the knowledge on these things, and had to go through a rider course for our department scooters (not the puzzy ones, they are fast and look like sport bikes) so Ive driven them, and the only thing that kept me from being hit was the red lights on it, that kept motorists under the speed limit and at a safe distance from me.
Please spare us from your "know it all about bikes" attitude, gathered from your joy riding experience!
two months ago a buddy of mine who is in highway patrol assigned highway 2 in brooklyn was hit and run over by an MTA bus while on duty on his highway bike, while leading a funeral procession, he just got out of the hospital this month, and was temporarily paralyzed from the waist down.
Yeah, encourage people to have motorcycles.
JACKASS!!!
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