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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/30/2007 11:24:15 PM   
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I think I'll try it Sunday too. Dealerships are open Monday right?

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/30/2007 11:26:42 PM   
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I think I'll try it Sunday too. Dealerships are open Monday right?


May be......

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/30/2007 11:38:32 PM   
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I was thinking of investigating this. I just didn't have the **** to do it. You're right though. NO amount of tuning could possibly compensate for a physical thing such as this. It's really odd that Ford hasn't revised this.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/30/2007 11:41:25 PM   
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I think its because everyone with a GT has just accepted it as the way it is.. i don't know if the V6 guys and gals are affected the same way as well. I bet if a big enough stink was raised somthing would get done.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/30/2007 11:46:05 PM   
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I think its because everyone with a GT has just accepted it as the way it is.. i don't know if the V6 guys and gals are affected the same way as well. I bet if a big enough stink was raised somthing would get done.
True, true. Just like that front-end thunk.

I'm really thinking I need to try this. Either this weekend or next.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 12:05:55 AM   
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I think its because everyone with a GT has just accepted it as the way it is.. i don't know if the V6 guys and gals are affected the same way as well. I bet if a big enough stink was raised somthing would get done.
True, true. Just like that front-end thunk.

I'm really thinking I need to try this. Either this weekend or next.



Well i'll put up a post here on saturday after i do the fix and let ya'll know how it turned out.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 12:08:05 AM   
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i dont fully understand how the parts were bent. can you please make this much more clear before i destroy it?

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 1:46:02 AM   
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i asked my friend if he had the lag on his v6 tonight. he said he definitely has lag as well.
Ford should put out a TSB or something.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 2:05:25 AM   
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IMHO Ford will NOT put out a TSB! They built it like this!!
I might just order one and do it then put into my cars.

Great Tip, Find, and Write up!  Thank you!

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 2:10:13 AM   
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The lag will not get a TSB because it is not a fault. Its just a by product of drive by wire, and every car that has DBW has a lag of some type. It may be less pronounced but its still there.

Great discovery and write up. My tune eliminated virtually all of my lag, but it couldnt hurt to check this out. Some more detailed pics with labels and such would be nice as well, if someone gets around to doing it. Thanks Tube.


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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 3:40:22 AM   
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Tube thanks for the pics and write up - definitely great info!  If anyone could post a pic of how the brushes look before modifying them I think that would help a lot of us prior to doing this.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 5:43:54 AM   
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People, PLEASE be careful when attempting this mod!  The last thing I want to read about is some owner pushing his car through the backside of his garage, or worse.

There is a reason Ford designed them this way, not least of which is safety factor.

Don't get me wrong, I think this is a GREAT mod, and I applaud the OP for having the prowess and finesse to pull it off!   Just take great care when performing this mod.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 5:50:18 AM   
tube


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WOW!

I just drove to work.

It's so perfect, so crisp, just like a cable connection.    Zero dead space.

I figured out that by doing this, I am also causing the ECU to recalibrate itself.  This recailbration, along with the adjustment of the brushes gives for a VERY sensitive throttle.

If I tap the gas pedal with my toe, moving it maybe 1/16", the engine will rev about 50 to 100 rpm.  It's extremely sensitive now.

This makes driving a lot easier, as starting off, I can use my toe to modulate the gas pedal while letting the clutch out, while before I was forced to use my entire foot to move the pedal, which made for unsmooth starts.

I can also now heel-toe and double clutch easier, as the throttle doesn't have that huge DEAD space in it now.

If someone wants, I can take a video of me touching the gas pedal very lightly and you can see how sensitive it is now.

Heres a drawing of how to bend the brushes. B is before, A is after.





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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 5:52:15 AM   
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What the hell, I try it whats the worse to happen it breaks, alwell thats part of the r&d process right.


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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 5:56:41 AM   
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nice write up and it sounds good, i'm 99% sure i'd break something that small though 


Yes my sentiments exactly.

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 6:00:35 AM   
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Why do the f*ck does it come this way?  I heard it was suppose to help with the throttle  One thing a little off subject but sometimes my throttle surges at take off and I either have to floor it or just change gears.  That was before I added the CAI and tune and just for clarification it still does it .

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 6:02:54 AM   
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Watching this thread for more result postings ... cool ...

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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 6:10:40 AM   
tube


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This really isn't something Ford wanted, it's just caused by the tolerances inside the circuit.  Very small movements inside the box equate to relatively large movements of the pedal.  By adjusting things inside to fit each specific pedal assembly individually, you regain the dead space in the pedal.

These entir pedal assemblys are only 44$ from an online parts place, if you're paranoid about breaking it, order two and modify one!


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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 6:11:47 AM   
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Now that's a sweet car.



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RE: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - 8/31/2007 6:12:50 AM   
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My question to readers is does your car surge as well?

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