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Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 10:44:32 AM   
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....an article in the Orange County newspaper this morning. The scan quality was terrible of the newspaper and I couldn't find it online so I retyped it in word format:

Irvine firm accused of illegally modifying cars

Automaker pays settlement without admitting wrongdoing.

An Irvine auto manufacturer has agreed to pay $700,000 after being accused by state air-quality officials of making illegal modifications to car engines to boost their performance.
Saleen, Inc., agreed to the settlement of an administrative action by the state Air Resources Board that might otherwise have led to a lawsuit. But company officials did not admit wrongdoing, said Saleen’s attorney, Jock Marlo.
The state board accused the company of modifying new cars in 2004 and 2005 to increase the cars’ performance, some by using nitrous oxide.
The modified cars were no longer certified by the state, but were sold for use or registration within the state anyway, the Air Resources Board contended.
The company modified 127 cars, 38 of which are being recalled, Air Resources Board officials said.


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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 10:49:42 AM   
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That must have been customer cars because other then the Saleen Focus offered with N2O hook up I don't remember any S281's being sold with that "upgrade"?   

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 11:04:26 AM   
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Oh well.


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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 1:47:21 PM   
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$700k -- all they gotta do is sell 1.5 Bad Boys and they've got that one paid!

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 2:14:55 PM   
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It's good to see the "Bad Boy" is now becoming a riff in one liners..Nice job Amy....

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 2:31:45 PM   
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Nice job scanning the newspaper article with such clarity, complete with date/time stamp.  If I ever kidnap Steve in an attempt to secure an S7 in berylium paint, I'll know who to call for the money shot of the victim holding today's Orange County Register...


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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:11:08 PM   
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When the hell did they put NOS in Saleens?!

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:11:35 PM   
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Nice job scanning the newspaper article with such clarity, complete with date/time stamp.  If I ever kidnap Steve in an attempt to secure an S7 in berylium paint, I'll know who to call for the money shot of the victim holding today's Orange County Register...


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Oh well.

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huh, scan??......Digital picture!! Doh  
No camera at work and like I said, the scan version sucked!!
SayWhen, thanks for the help good buddy!!

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:15:19 PM   
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When the hell did they put NOS in Saleens?!


....The N20 version of the Saleen Focus had the NOS system installed. However, it wasn't smog or carb legal so Saleen, to get around the system, offered it installed but with an empty bottle. Futhermore, if you filled the bottle, you voided the warranty. Yet another way the old Saleen Inc would attempt to get around the system..... 

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:15:21 PM   
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When the hell did they put NOS in Saleens?!


The Saleen Focus.  I actually wanted to buy a used one earlier this year, but people want to much for them.

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:19:24 PM   
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When the hell did they put NOS in Saleens?!


The Saleen Focus.  I actually wanted to buy a used one earlier this year, but people want to much for them.


Why the fcuk would you want a Focus!! Im sorry but thats like getting a SRT-4...pretty gay

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:28:16 PM   
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Why the fcuk would you want a Focus!! Im sorry but thats like getting a SRT-4...pretty gay

A Mustang with a body kit that can't beat SRT-4's is pretty lame too.

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 3:45:42 PM   
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oh Polk Thug  that is just plain mean....

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 5:18:41 PM   
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Why the fcuk would you want a Focus!! Im sorry but thats like getting a SRT-4...pretty gay

A Mustang with a body kit that can't beat SRT-4's is pretty lame too.


What do mean? I would rape a SRT-4 stock for stock....

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 5:31:54 PM   
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Why the fcuk would you want a Focus!! Im sorry but thats like getting a SRT-4...pretty gay

A Mustang with a body kit that can't beat SRT-4's is pretty lame too.


What do mean? I would rape a SRT-4 stock for stock....




Ha ha haa ha ha!


Go try racing one from a dig. Then you will know what we are talking about.

I thought all of the Saleen enthusiasts here would know what a Saleen Focus is. Just take a look at Ebay. There are at least 2 or 3 on there at any time.


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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/28/2007 9:31:03 PM   
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Nice job scanning the newspaper article with such clarity, complete with date/time stamp.  If I ever kidnap Steve in an attempt to secure an S7 in berylium paint, I'll know who to call for the money shot of the victim holding today's Orange County Register...


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ORIGINAL: Say When
Oh well.

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huh, scan??......Digital picture!! Doh  
No camera at work and like I said, the scan version sucked!!
SayWhen, thanks for the help good buddy!!


Man when I saw who posted the OC Register I was beginning to wonder (and was about to start packing my bags...) Now it all makes sense.

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/29/2007 8:06:39 AM   
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With the Saleen Focus N2O Saleen actually made special AN fittings that where machined solid, no hole.  Even if you filled the bottle the system could not be used.  The electrical system wasn't functional either.  You had to buy an aftermarket off-road kit that came with AN fittings and the electrical box and wiring harness. 

I am surprised they lost..... 

Oh and it doesn't make sense why they would recall the cars, and only 38....

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/29/2007 8:46:26 AM   
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Oh and it doesn't make sense why they would recall the cars, and only 38....


....maybe only 38 were sold in California with the NOS setup! This Air Quality Board is a state thing and I'm sure they are recalling them to remove the system. If I owned one of those cars, there's no way in hell I would take it back to Saleen to remove the system.....  

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/29/2007 8:54:26 AM   
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Oh and it doesn't make sense why they would recall the cars, and only 38....


....maybe only 38 were sold in California with the NOS setup! This Air Quality Board is a state thing and I'm sure they are recalling them to remove the system. If I owned one of those cars, there's no way in hell I would take it back to Saleen to remove the system.....  


I would feel the same way, but Saleen has the VIN and hence the STATE has the VIN. They will hunt you down via DMV and you will be forced to comply or you will not be able to register your car

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EDIT: I guess if you removed it yourself, you would be in compliance and STILL have the original Saleen equip. so you would retain some value as well as street cred! You would still have to be inspected by state I am sure.

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RE: Saleen accused of illegally modifying cars - 8/29/2007 10:42:57 AM   
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They won't hunt you down. All of the 1994-95 S351 cars were technically not certified 50state legal. The dealers already had deposits and cars had already left the front door. By the time the dealer got the letter they were not about to send a car back to Saleen because they knew they would never see thier money back so they sold them to the public in Ca and the rest is history. That is why you will never see a 94-95 from CA with the CATALYST decal under the hood because they did not come with them. If you do see one it was shhhhhhhhhh, dealer added.


I agree though the Focus issue is  The system was not operative. It's the equivalent to an aftermarkt wing or SALEEN windshield banner that blocks your view that's illegal in your state.

I'll tell you one thing though. Those cars have no balls without the NOS.

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