By Popular Demand, here it is...the Explorer Express X-Charger group buy. This is for serious inquires only. If you don’t have the funds, or can’t do it for another two years, that’s fine. Just put it in another thread. Keep this thread clean and for group buy purposes only.

These are the lowest prices that will ever be quoted for Mustang X-Chargers. Dave@EE has made an exception to do another one of these due to stang owners beating down his door with emails and phone calls requesting another group buy. This offer is to members only.

Xcharger group buy technical discussion, questions and answers can be found here: http://www.mustangforums.com/m_3763547/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3763547



UPDATES
Units will start shipping on the 5th order. Rebates will follow to the first 5 orders if we hit 10+ units.Process

The process is simple, and will be broken down as follows:
Read this post in its entirety before any action
Prices on units will be broken down by quantity (i.e. 5 and 10 unit group buy discounts)
Review the units available under “Group Buy Pricing”, and choose the one that fits your budget and/or performance goals
PM your information: You will PM your information to me for the unit you want. Dave will then follow up with you on the order.Group Buy Pricing
$200 discount @ 5 units any kit
$400 discount @ 10 units any kitSupercharger packages can be viewed here: http://www.explorerexpress.com/musta...s-c-86_87.html (http://www.explorerexpress.com/mustang-0507-superchargers-c-86_87.html)

Information

You will need to email Rygenstormlocke the following information:
To: rygenstormlocke@yahoo.com
Subject Line: Xcharger Group Buy Part 2
Your MF handle/log in
Your full name
Confirm that you agree to the terms
Billing address
Shipping address
Unit you wish to order
Phone
Questions you may haveHe will then forward your information on to Dave@EE. Dave@EE will then contact you to finalize the deal, be prepared to provide a credit card number. I will keep a tally of units and modify the title of the thread to reflect total units sold.

Terms

The kit is not to be resold as a way to markup the unit for regular price to make a profit. These kits are being sold as a group buy to benefit the 4.0 V6 mustang community.

This group buy is only available tomembers. If you don’t have an account, please feel free to register. It’s Free!!!!

Thanks for posting this up, really a very good deal.

Got an order, ball is starting to move on this one. :)

is there reallyno one interested in this?

I dont know, but Rygen said i'm the first one to commit to this. I was hoping more people would get on board

I am ... but bank account says no right now ....

bad timing, another 2 months and I'd be on that!

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Wrong thread, sorry.

We are up to four now? Thats news to me

How long is the group buy price good for? If no one is interested I am going to order my own because I still want the supercharger regardless.

I am interested but i did not find any numbers on what horse power and torque increases you get from this kit? i couldn't findit on the web site. Anyone have the numbers here?

ORIGINAL: vxtonkaboy

I am interested but i did not find any numbers on what horse power and torque increases you get from this kit? i couldn't find it on the web site. Anyone have the numbers here?

standard out you will see ~250rwhp
h/o you will see ~290rwhp

If EE has not yet gotten their carb cert for Cali then why do they have a cali model could I go for the hi po?

ORIGINAL: chrisc


ORIGINAL: vxtonkaboy

I am interested but i did not find any numbers on what horse power and torque increases you get from this kit? i couldn't find it on the web site. Anyone have the numbers here?

standard out you will see ~250rwhp
h/o you will see ~290rwhp


I'm new to this. What is standard out and h/o? And why such a huge difference?

Email or call Dave at Explorer Express and get the "correct" information. He will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
http://www.explorerexpress.com
Tech line (707) 254-7025
888-EXPLORER (888-397-5673)
Q&A
http://www.explorerexpress.com/questions/supercharger_questions.php

I only mention this because I own one and see quite a bit of "mis-information" being passed around boardsby folks that don't.You could also head over to the "other" board and ask... there are 20+ XCharger owners there that can answer your questions accurately.

ORIGINAL: GrayPony

Email or call Dave at Explorer Express and get the "correct" information. He will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
http://www.explorerexpress.com
Tech line (707) 254-7025
888-EXPLORER (888-397-5673)
Q&A
http://www.explorerexpress.com/questions/supercharger_questions.php

I only mention this because I own one and see quite a bit of "mis-information" being passed around boardsby folks that don't.You could also head over to the "other" board and ask... there are 20+ XCharger owners there that can answer your questions accurately.


Ditto to all of the above. At the other place, there's even a rather extensive thread on X-Charger information, kind of like a combination of "inside tricks" and "lessons learned" that, "kollektively," is just a wealth of information for anyone willing to read through all the posts.

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(You know, I understand --to a degree --forum filters blocking the mention of the names of other websites... but when the same filter settings censor my choice of words when I'm writing... well, it's just a bit annoying when I have to intentionally misspell a word I want to use in making a point just because part of the word is the name of one of those evil "other websites."

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Russ

if those other sites hadnt had members who were so childish as to send out waves of spam of that site through the PM system here, we wouldnt have to filter said sites.

the corral and stangnet arent filtered, and others are..all for a reason.

lets not turn this into a political debate.

if those of you with knowledge would just answer questions rather than shipping people off to other sites, we wouldnt need filters.

Agreed, no need to turn this into a debate. Thanks for posting this group buy up ROTM. :)

has EE given a time frame as to how long this offer is good?

ORIGINAL: vxtonkaboy

ORIGINAL: chrisc


ORIGINAL: vxtonkaboy

I am interested but i did not find any numbers on what horse power and torque increases you get from this kit? i couldn't find it on the web site. Anyone have the numbers here?

standard out you will see ~250rwhp
h/o you will see ~290rwhp


I'm new to this. What is standard out and h/o? And why such a huge difference?


standard kit comes with a GT airbox maf, the hi-po kit comes with a CAI and they use 2 different pulley sizes which gives different amounts of boost, I will be glad to answer any questions here, not on very much so may not reply right away. I have Xcharger # 3, been on for a year now (well except when I was building my motor. LOL)

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

has EE given a time frame as to how long this offer is good?


I think it is set through late October or November, I will check with Dave and see what the origibnal plans were.

hmmm....this means i could get the full kit with a 2.8" and the wet-x system for about 4k flat (i already have an x-cal)....very interesting.

group buy ends 11-24-07, plenty of time to save and make plans to be blown by thanksgiving!

awesome..thanks for the info!

Need Help, gonna ask my parents for a loan to get this and need a few ?'s answered 1st.
1. How many are left(hi-po's and regular)and how much would I save right now?
2. Below what rpm's are you out of boost?
3. Is it ok to run 4.10's with the hi-po kit?
Thanks ahead of time!

ORIGINAL: SteelStang05

Need Help, gonna ask my parents for a loan to get this and need a few ?'s answered 1st.
1. How many are left(hi-po's and regular)and how much would I save right now?
2. Below what rpm's are you out of boost?
3. Is it ok to run 4.10's with the hi-po kit?
Thanks ahead of time!



1. You will need to ask the person running the group buy
2. RPM doesn't determine when you're in boost.... engine load and throttle position determine boost. (The bypass valve is vacuum controlled.) I can drive around all day and never hit boost... but what fun is that :D:D
3. Several X owners have 4.10s and I haven'theard/read any complaints.

Thanx for the help! Hopefully the person who knows the answer to:
How many are left(hi-po's and regular)and how much would I save right now?
will see it and answer me. Thanx again!

Hey guys,
With talk of the new intercooler, will this be available after I have already purchased and installed my x charger, or should I wait until the full kit is available? Thanks.

Email sent ... does anybody know if there is a discount if you don't need a tuner? I already have an SCT XCAL3 so I would just need the tune file ...

ORIGINAL: dmhines

Email sent ... does anybody know if there is a discount if you don't need a tuner? I already have an SCT XCAL3 so I would just need the tune file ...


The last group buy was without the tuner... you purchased the tuner and/or tunes from Doug direct.

OK ... I'm going for it .... need an HO Model .. information sent ...

Got it, order sent to Dave@EE.

We are up to 3 orders, just 2 more before units start to ship.

Whats the cost for this? What all dose it come with?

Is it ok for a daily driver?

I have a 2007 V6 Auto.

is there going to be another group buy anytime soon, also how much is it and where can you get more specs

ORIGINAL: socal2fast

Whats the cost for this? What all dose it come with?

Is it ok for a daily driver?

I have a 2007 V6 Auto.



mine is a DD 18000 miles on her. there are like 4 of us in so cal . we should meet if you want to see one or more up close

Ya I'm in Rancho Cucamonga I would like to see one of these.

What is the Best price on this set up?

Is the group buy still going?

Good Question. From what I was told it ended at the end of November. But that might have changedto increase sales.

I believe it is still going.

Call Dave at EE ... and ask if he can do the Group Buy Price ... he did for me back in November ... :D

ORIGINAL: bscottie

group buy ends 11-24-07, plenty of time to save and make plans to be blown by thanksgiving!

Found this in the thread. Like dmhines said, your best bet is to call Doug at EE and ask him if you can get it at the lowered price or ask when/if the next group buy is. I guess he might/probably will have one aroundwhen the intercooler comes out. Just a guess though.

You can count me in if another group buy comes around.

Ditto!

Yep what type of discount are we looknig at and is there a intercooler now?

No intercooler out yet, but the last group buy had discount of $200/person if 5+ units sold and $400/person if 10+ units sold.

We got an update on the groupbuy, as follows....

The clock is reset, and we are strating the group buy fresh from today.....

This could be the last X-Charger group buy due to Steeda possibly buying the parts from Dave and selling the system. If that happens then Dave@EE will not be allowed to sell his units for less than the Steeda price.

If you are thinking about it now is the time and he is limiting the group buy to 10 units as well.

What kind of pricing for the group buy? (sorry if its already stated I didnt see it)

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

We got an update on the groupbuy, as follows....

The clock is reset, and we are strating the group buy fresh from today.....

This could be the last X-Charger group buy due to Steeda possibly buying the parts from Dave and selling the system. If that happens then Dave@EE will not be allowed to sell his units for less than the Steeda price.

If you are thinking about it now is the time and he is limiting the group buy to 10 units as well.



So then is the intercooler gonna be sold by Dave@EE when it comes out or straight to Steeda for sale? I'm thinking if what you said is happening then the intercooler will be sold under/by steeda from the time table I hear.

e-mail sent. X-Charge me!!!

Got our first order, only 9 to go.:)

is this going to be publicized on the-other-forum-that-shall-not-be-named?

ORIGINAL: basketballord

is this going to be publicized on the-other-forum-that-shall-not-be-named?


LOL! Correct term is forum of whom-we-do-not-speak-of
or place-that-we-do-not-dare-say :D

ORIGINAL: SteelStang05

ORIGINAL: basketballord

is this going to be publicized on the-other-forum-that-shall-not-be-named?


LOL! Correct term is forum of whom-we-do-not-speak-of
or place-that-we-do-not-dare-say :D


But we all know what it is anyway



My only hope for being in on this is scratch off tickets, I won't have this much cash until after my summer job is over.

All,

Yes, its posted over on MC as well. This is a joint effort between MF and MC. Both sites are fully integrated on this one.

Cheers.

-T

We now have 2 orders, only 8 to go.

Go Go Go! Order Order Order!

Come on everyone - you know you want to!


(by the way - I'm one of the two already in on it!)

We are up to 3 orders now.

[sm=burnout.gif]woot! keep 'em coming! You know you want it people!

Sign me up I want one w/ the HIPO and no tuner.

ORIGINAL: CroDalmatinac

Sign me up I want one w/ the HIPO and no tuner.



Read the main post, and email me your order.

4th order received, 1 order to go before they start shipping.

Just hit 5 units!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those poor ricers... [&o]


LOL!

WOOHOO!!!

Didn't know this got restarted. Great to see it has traction this time.

Indeed, group buys love tax season.

Order number 6 received!

Right on!

quick question does only the first 5 get the total discount now or do all 10 get it if 10 unitsare hit

all those who order get the discount. Example: if only 7 units are ordered, all 7 orders will get the $200 discount. If 10 units are ordered, all 10 orders get the $400 dicount.

Shipping begins now at 5 unit price. If 10 is reached, the first "X" folks who paid get a refund to get everybody to 10 unit pricing. Great deal, you don't have to wait.

Except that Dave e-mailed me today and said they weren't going to ship until the group buy was completed. That means March 31st or 10 orders.

Come on people - only 4 slots left for this group buy. Don't wait because you may not get in!

ugh not shipped until it's over??? sad panda :(

Come on people I need the $400 off to buy SHR louvers! haha

And we need them to ship!

They should offer financing, I bet they would get alot more :)

There is financing available, its called your personal credit card.

We are now up to 7 orders!!!!!

Hey - just a reminder. There are still 3 lucky people who will soon be driving an x-charged v6 mustang! If you haven't joined up with the group buy yet, then it's about time you did!

Too bad you can't piggyback them. Mine works so well I'd get a second !

I may be #8 if a deal on a V-6 I'm working on goes through...

^make it happen!

We are up to 9 orders now! One more and we hit the 2nd discount!!!

woh! 9! that's a wonderful surprise!

im prob real retarded for askin this, but which package is this, and if the 10 orders go through, will it restart afterwards?

ORIGINAL: NuclearMuscle523

im prob real retarded for askin this, but which package is this, and if the 10 orders go through, will it restart afterwards?

No, you're not retarded, legit question. The group buy is limited to 10 units, meaning only one more spot is open. The group buy is for any of the supercharger units that Explorer Express sells: http://www.explorerexpress.com/mustang-0508-superchargers-c-86_87.html

$200 off right now to everyone committed to the group buy, and as soon as the next person orders and we hit 10 units, it will be a $400 discount for everyone.

i really want the hipo bad, but is this thing really all its cracked up to be? and will i have to chance to get in on this like a month or two from now?

nope due to price increases this will prob be the last time this deal will be this good.

One more...just one more!!

i want to get this so bad so i dont miss out onthis deal... but my wife just doesnt understand[:'(]

tell her you'll even let her drive it once if she lets you buy it:D

does the guy offer like a miltiary discount or something?

I think this is the last chance you are going to have to get a new x-charger anywhere near this price.

ORIGINAL: moonstang

I think this is the last chance you are going to have to get a new x-charger anywhere near this price.

Wondering how much is the price going up? I have sold my 4.0, butstill wondering how much the price is gonna go up. I know I heard he was selling the suprcharger to steeda or someone. My guess would be if you didn't buy it in the group buy, you'd be paying $600-$800 more at least forone later.

Bump, we only need one more order!

Ditto - don't wait too long on this. This last spot should go fast!

Come on people, this is the last chance you really need to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3pXIFQ5wOM

How much is it with the group buy

ORIGINAL: defiance777

How much is it with the group buy

Which one?Any one will be $400 less than sticker price.

Supercharger packages are listed here:
http://www.explorerexpress.com/mustang-0508-superchargers-c-86_87.html
Prices range from 3795 to 4395, so the price after the discount will be from 3395 to 3995 depending on the kit you want.

How many power will this add? Is the CA. Kit CARB Legal with CARB stickers on it?

I have a 07 that is a Auto. so I'm looking for something that makes the car ALOT more fun for around town driving
I will not be doing any track stuff.

What do you guys think?

Oh and do they have a intercooled model out yet?

intercooler is coming soon still I think I heard middle of year. afixer is the best one to ask I think. and as far as horsepower you should be at about 250-260ish to the wheel with the CA kit I think.

The Hi-po version will raise your RWHP to about 280, which is equivalent to 341 HP (assuming 18% drivetrain loss) at the crank compared with the stock 210 at the crank. Summary = about 100rwhp gain, about 130 hp gain at the crank. I think that the cali-spec version is about 25rwhp less.

And no, the intercooler is still in development.

Hope that answers your questions!

oops, you beat me to it elroy!

I'll buy the 10th X-Charger.

Maverick, check the very first post of this thread. You'll need to send rygen some information, which he will forward to Dave at Explorer Express! Congrats!

I did. I asked him some questions and waiting for a reply on them. If everything goes well, I'll be that 10th guy.

Someone backed out due to legitimate personal matters, so with this order we are still at 9. Maverick, I just sent you an email with some details.

@All,

Just one more order, surely one of you can find a 4.0 mod junkie that will take the last order? There are a ton of 4.0's here at MF. Whats the deal? Just one more! LOL.

Cheers.

Todd

If it was one year later I would buy it myself but I'm trying to buy a house right now.[:@]

So let me get this right. If I buy an x-charger and I am the 10th person, it will be $400 bucks off? And that is 400 bucks off the $4000k HO x?

Oddysey, if you buy it, the 400 discount comes into effect. That is applicable to any of the kits that EE offers. So if you want the hi-po X kit w/o tuner, it is normally 4095. 4095 - 400 = $3695

ORIGINAL: ODDYSEY

So let me get this right. If I buy an x-charger and I am the 10th person, it will be $400 bucks off? And that is 400 bucks off the $4000k HO x?


Yea, so just do it, get boosted!!!

Man... I would in a heart beat, just trying to figure out a.) if I can afford it.. b.) if the wife will let me... neither look promising, but I would love too. Trust me, I am working it :)

ORIGINAL: ODDYSEY

Man... I would in a heart beat, just trying to figure out a.) if I can afford it.. b.) if the wife will let me... neither look promising, but I would love too. Trust me, I am working it :)


I'm glad I'm not married lol

Too bad they didn't have financing :)

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

There is financing available, its called your personal credit card.

Yes but my wife can see that... :D LOL I almost talked her into it last night. I will just have to see what happens over the next 30 days. Sorry I tried!

Bump for visability.

Even though I can't afford it, I want someone to be the 10th so everyone saves some cash
so get to it 4.0s!

ORIGINAL: Stang_Heritage07

Bump for visability.

Even though I can't afford it, I want someone to be the 10th so everyone saves some cash
so get to it 4.0s!



LOL! Bump for visibility, it hasn't moved from the top of the 4.0 section where it islockedin almost 1/2a year. :D

I took the dive, email just sent for #10!!!!! Can't wait to get boosted:D

Back up to 9 orders. Just one more.

WooHoo! Someone is going to make 9 people very happy!

well looks like its gonna be me I just applied for a new credit card and they gave me 11k the only problem is I have 2 wait like a week 2 get it and at soon I get it we be all set here sounds good or what

Quastion : what is the final price after discount and tax and what is in the package that we getting thx guys

I think we will get 400 dollars off any package we want to get. The Hi-PO is $4095, so it will be $3695 before taxes. I am not sure if we have to pay sales tax if we are out of state but if we do, then take about 7 percent and that will be almost 4K.

the tuner comes with it in the package right

you can order the tuner with it but its 4395, 3995 after group discount. If you don't live in the same state as explorer express then you pay $0.00 in sales tax.

the tuner that comes withthe packageis there tune for x-charger from bama on it and what tuner is it xcal 2 or 3

yes it comes with tunes and it can be used with either xcal 2 or 3.

sorry guys i am out i run into some credit card problems

ORIGINAL: xXxMUSTANGxXx

sorry guys i am out i run into some credit card problems

I was thinking something was wrong when you said your credit card was just approved and you were getting it in a week. I was approved for a credit card and it took me 2 months to get it [:@]. Damn slow credit card people. Good Luck on getting one more person for the x-charger group buy. I know it will come sooner or later, too bad it's looking later [&o]. The x-charger is such a nice system with great low-end power for the street.

I've applied for credit cards on line and had a credit number I could use in 15 minutes. Technology is wonderful.

So... who else is up for an x-charger?

I am seriously thinking about taking that last X-Charger spot. I have the money right now, and its NOT credit.

What is swaying me big time right now is the fact that I will save $2000-$3000 against the Vortech V2-SQ Aftercooler.

What is keeping me away that little bit is.....275rwhp? kinda weak vs Vortech's 320-330rwhp.

But yeah, by tomorrow, my decision WILL be made.

^if I had the cash I'd be in. Sounds like you do, and I'm a betting man...you're gonna pull the trigger on this and I'll be there cheering for you. Its a solid choice, I love the looks and sound

Consider what you want the mod for. If it's steetability and stoplight to stoplight performance, the instant on torque of the X gives great response in the most used 2000-4000 RPM range. If you want to be a track junkie, then maybe you look for a turbo. Don't get hung up on HP numbers, you only make max HP at max RPMs. It's the shape of the torque curve that really gives you the true feel of the power adder. There are ton of ricers that make 275 HP, but don't have max torque till 4500 RPM... that's too high in the RPM band to get instant head snapping fun.

ORIGINAL: LX200

Consider what you want the mod for. If it's steetability and stoplight to stoplight performance, the instant on torque of the X gives great response in the most used 2000-4000 RPM range. If you want to be a track junkie, then maybe you look for a turbo. Don't get hung up on HP numbers, you only make max HP at max RPMs. It's the shape of the torque curve that really gives you the true feel of the power adder. There are ton of ricers that make 275 HP, but don't have max torque till 4500 RPM... that's too high in the RPM band to get instant head snapping fun.


I'm not a track junkie, don't plan on it. I'm a street guy who wants that big kickback when I floor it and a fast acceleration. But when I floor it, my car goes past 2000-3000rpm and usually sits between 4000-5500rpm until it hits the last gear. What does that mean?

Spoke to Dave last night, the 10th order was phoned in yesterday. We have reached 10 orders!

YES!

When do they ship??? Sorry, just excited to get started!

is it to late for an 11th buyer to come in???

Is shipping to Canada an issue? If not I want one.

canadian? please? Let me in,,, i have money.

The group buy is over. Contact Explorer Express directly to see what the best price they can give you is.

ORIGINAL: Favre4TD

canadian? please? Let me in,,, i have money.


I have a note into Dave for you, to see if he will make an exception and take an 11th order.

thanks,,,,,

whats the best way to contact dave to find out about a military discount?

by phone is the best way to get an answer. 888-397-5673

thank you

Well, since some of you wanted in on this group buy so badly, but missed the cut off, we convinced Dave to up the max count to 12 units, and leave the group buy going until April 18th.

Cheers.

Todd

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, since some of you wanted in on this group buy so badly, but missed the cut off, we convinced Dave to up the max count to 12 units, and leave the group buy going until April 18th.

Cheers.

Todd


Now THAT'S cool!

that's awesome, better jump on it guys, you can bet the farm that this will be the last chance to get it anywhere near this cheap

ORIGINAL: basketballord

that's awesome, better jump on it guys, you can bet the farm that this will be the last chance to get it anywhere near this cheap


Didn't you say that a few weeks ago when the group buy closed? lol

sure did, but lucky enough for these guys, Dave is making an exception!

sent the email,,, yipeeeeee
cant wait to light my tires on fire.

Just got the 11th order.

Hey i love that front bumper from shelby where did you get it and how much was it?? thanks

still need a 12th right?

Dave made another exception, he took the 13th order directly.

hey is there any chance I can get in for this I know its a little late but I wanna see if you guys can do something about it thx

So..... about this supposed intercooled version coming out soon...

you think Dave would do another group buy :D???

that would be nice;).

Yes it would!

ok, 1 question how much hp increase w/o tuner?

You can't run the Xcharger without a tune! This is a major engine modification and you have to tune for it.

YES, YOU DO NEED A TUNER FOR THE XCHARGER.

I'd also be in on Another Group buy... I'm watching, if anyone can take the initiative I think we could fill another one up.

Any possibility?

Doubtful. Dave from EE said this past GB was the last.

I was looking at getting an x-charger at some point but I wanted to know a few things about them first. I have a 7.5 rear with 3.73 gears would I really need to up it to the 8.5 rear? I don't beat on my car I would just need it to hand a few track pulls and a little bit of abuse from time to time. Would the 7.5 be okay for this? Also what about our driveshaft I know it should be replaced but how long would it last? I don't plan to do over 110mph though which is when it usually runs into problems. Is the kit able to just be bolted on and good to go without any major upgrades right away?

i have over 30 k miles on my x with the 7.5 rear and stock gears. i did however replace the dif with a t-loc20 k ago. and i have a fair amount of track time

I always look at it this way.... you can replace your rear with an 8.8 because you are afraid it will break, which will cost you $800 now, or you can just stick with your rear and only replace it IF it breaks.

I opt to stick with my 7.5 and spend the money later if I HAVE TO. In the meantime, I will use the $800 toward an intercooler when it is available.

Besides, the Godfather has spoken. He has 30k and has had no problems, so there is no better endorsement than that.

I always look at it this way.... you can replace your rear with an 8.8 because you are afraid it will break, which will cost you $800 now, or you can just stick with your rear and only replace it IF it breaks.

I opt to stick with my 7.5 and spend the money later if I HAVE TO. In the meantime, I will use the $800 toward an intercooler when it is available.

Besides, the Godfather has spoken. He has 30k and has had no problems, so there is no better endorsement than that.

ha funny . hey mike long time no talk! hope all is well

Hi Tom, yup, everything is cool. My Mustang is up to 6000 miles on it (ha). Just don't spend too much time of the boards anymore. Guess you have been able to stay at home lately, huh? I have to try to get out to see Death Race... do you like how it turned out?