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If you could have EFI without a specific computer, woul... - 8/18/2007 5:10:15 PM   
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Check this out.  There is a universal EFI computer being sold that has no real limitations as you dial it in.  This gives you complete control over fire as well as fuel.  It is sold as a "learning tool", probably so no one can come back on them and claim the company destroyed an engine.  Here it is...

http://www.megasquirt.info/

A person would have to learn how advance affected things.  You'd have to know about types of FI.  But it would allow you to collect just about any parts for cheap and have them work.  Fun or futility?

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:11:51 PM   
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I like Holleys!

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:27:37 PM   
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Lots of people use them and love them. Makes EFI a little more affordable. You can tune with your own laptop, use any sensors you want and map your own fuel maps and timing curves from scratch. So in answer to the last question. FUN !

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:32:20 PM   
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My lap is designed for a 125 pound blond female, not a computer.
Let me modify my statement on Holley's -
I like Webbers Too.
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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:43:14 PM   
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My lap is designed for a 125 pound blond female, not a computer.
Let me modify my statement on Holley's -
I like Webbers Too.
Jim

The money you saved in gas with EFI you could get two blondes.
mmmm, I need to fuel inject........


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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:43:51 PM   
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Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong.  You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned.  It's the same thing.  You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang.  I like Motorcraft carbs. 

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:46:42 PM   
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Well that was my third choice.
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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 5:58:00 PM   
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Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong.  You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned.  It's the same thing.  You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang.  I like Motorcraft carbs. 

REALLY ?! I think that's the first time I've heard that. I kinda see it as having your cake and eating it,too. That's cool.


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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 6:31:52 PM   
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Megasquirt works well, if you know what you're doing, and the idea with it is too learn. I plan on going with Edelbrock's Pro Flo setup though, takes a lot of the trouble out of it, and it comes with it's own tuning module so you can fine tune the fuel/spark curves

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 6:32:38 PM   
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I see you only have 30 something posts, so you don't know the history.  I like to keep my Mustangs as factory original as possible, but with small upgrades to keep them running smoothly and without mechanical problems.  My 65 is a daily driver, and I keep it up-to-date just as I do my 03 Mach1.  Along with the daily driver status comes maintenance issues as well as road trash getting thrown onto the undercarriage parts. That is the biggest issue I am facing since I do not own a lift. 

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 6:49:17 PM   
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Two 66 GT Fastbacks, both pure stock, one's a 'K' code, and a 65 GT Fastback, pure stock.
And don't say I'm not computer savvy, I was repairing computers in the 60's, designing them in the 70, putting them in satellites in the 80's.
Jim
(The Webbers went on my VW powered sand rail.)

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 9:23:11 PM   
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Yes.


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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 9:50:24 PM   
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I bought the kit and built the unit. It is destine for my 62 Galaxie and then once I have the bugs out I will build one for my Mustang. Took me about 8 hours to put together the main unit, the relay board and the stimulator. NOTE I have been building circuit boards sense I was a kid and if you have no experience soldering a circuit board do not attempt to do this until you have practiced on something else or even better sever something elses. The connections are very close together. I have bench tested my unit and it seams to work very well and the software for it makes it very easy to adjust. I am going to use 5.0 upper and lower intakes, an 87 ford truck high pressure pump a trunk mount impact kill switch for the pump, and home made megasquirt wiring harness. I will post more if I ever get time to work on my Galaxie



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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/18/2007 10:05:11 PM   
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Well done, I can get you a job here in Silicon Valley at some hi-tech outfit, $70 or $80k a year. Of course, you would need to commute from Montana.
Jim

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 4:23:27 AM   
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i rather use http://www.sdsefi.com/ im lazy dont like making a whole system

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 5:40:18 AM   
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I have checked into the Megasquirt system, and everyone I've talked to has liked it. In time, "Evil" will have a little sister, and she will be fuel injected also. Since I plan a Turbo only (maybe twins), a Megasquirt would handle the engine management OK. Also I  have heard scuttle there is work being done that will allow use of common existing (junkyard) ECM's that will be fully programable via the laptop. That would be a great help to keep things in budget. As far as the aftermarket ECM's, as this market gets more crowded, the price will drop. And "scouttrooper", I appreciate the info, I have one EFI and 8 carbed. Needless to say, the EFI has spoiled me. So, to answer your question, YES.

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 9:05:53 AM   
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Well done, I can get you a job here in Silicon Valley at some hi-tech outfit, $70 or $80k a year. Of course, you would need to commute from Montana.
Jim


Not to mention the cost of living is 3 to 4 times more expensive then Montana. So it will seem more like $20k a year

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 12:09:54 PM   
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You need to make at least $150,000 to qualify for a home loan in Silicon Valley. That don't leave much left over for 'toys'.
Jim

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 12:21:18 PM   
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You need to make at least $150,000 to qualify for a home loan in Silicon Valley. That don't leave much left over for 'toys'.
Jim


I read an article about the wealthy by all other accounts people commuting daily from Stockton, Manteca, et al to SV for work.  I also read another article that really puts SV wealth into perspective:

In Silicon Valley, Millionaires Who Don’t Feel Rich

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/technology/05rich.html?ex=1187668800&en=46fce7fd3fc5a654&ei=5070

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RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, ... - 8/19/2007 1:25:01 PM   
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Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong.  You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned.  It's the same thing.  You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang.  I like Motorcraft carbs. 

I respect your opinion and I like Carbs too. I have a Holley on my 67 but I'm not sure how putting EFI on a classic car is the same as putting a Toyota engine in a Mustang. From the purist point of view I entirely respect the carb, but Ford makes EFI for 5.0's that is so easy to adapt and would be ALL Ford parts. Even an aftermarket system is no different than changing gears, wheels, exhaust, cams, etc., etc.
Anyway to each his own.
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